KM Riku Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 I freaking love fish dishes, specially salmon with pepper....wait, what? You really didn't have anything better to ask? :V Oh well, this forum is getting more and more dead each day anyway. Even though it's kinda understandable that Tao it's pretty boring now and that people are starting to lose interest on her.
RinHara5aki Posted July 5, 2011 Posted July 5, 2011 I switched to Makoto ;__; Any EVO goes that play Tao, I'd like to try to get you on the recording if possible. I don't think there is one legit CS2 Tao on BBV yet
SolarMisae Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 The lack of Tao players now makes me sad. ;A; Is she really so boring now...? I always thought she looked fun even if she wasn't my style.
KM Riku Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 See it like this: -Tao CS2 plays EXACTLY like Tao CS1, but with a limited j.D and 214D crossing-up (the new j.B doesn't make a difference except being able to combo after Hexa-Edge) -Tao new BnB (aka j.8D~A loop) is damn boring and simple. I even found taunt loop fun, but I really can't say the same about j.8D~A loop. -While Tao CS2 is definitely easier and more confortable to play, DE having same-move proration limits her combo potencial too much and you are stuck in one BnB + AB2. Even in CS1 with taunt loop you could do some other combos (like 1 or 2 taunts + 22C) with similar damage. Of course, none of those things make Tao worse or anything like that. She's still damn good and basically don't have any really bad matchup (at most 4.5-5.5 Vs Rachel and Jin). However I think she's kinda boring to play now since she feels the same as CS1 but even more limited.
RinHara5aki Posted July 7, 2011 Posted July 7, 2011 Rin, why did you switch to Makoto? ;; What KM riku said above pretty much sums up EXACTLY what I was gonna say. I really enjoy the accessible AB2 combos, and her general neutral game, but she really does have a one track mind, especially with bnb. Not saying it's a bad thing for your win factor, but for character fun, she's dropped pretty low. Personally, just for me, I LOVE combos. I like creating stuff. But as riku said with DE, you can't create ANYTHING new without it being completely unusable in a real match. On a positive note, on JP tier lists, she's now top 3! :3
Domethieus Posted July 8, 2011 Posted July 8, 2011 Rin, where did you find the JP tier list? I can only find the Arcadia one and she's bottom of A tier in Arcadia version.
NeoGio0o Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 This may seem like a dumb post, but I was hoping someone could shed some light to a scrub tao. If you do anything into 5D-6, IAD backwards, J.C/J.B why is it she can't do dash 5B when she lands.Even if you use another jump before j.C/J.B she still can't do dash 5B into 6A. If the opponent it crouching you could do the IAD backwards,J.C,J.D,5B,6A, JD8-A loop (3 reps) does around 3.2K. Not sure how practical it is overall as a mix up seeing how the opponent must be crouching for this to work, just figured the fact she can't do 5B after the air normal is something interesting. P.S.-Xdest tao mirrors were really fun though I suck ^_^
Domethieus Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 (edited) Rawr, anyway, I don't get your question @Riku: Removed xD Edited July 17, 2011 by Domethieus
KM Riku Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 I already said this in the CS2 discussion thread and I'm going to say again, don't take this matchup chart serious...it has a lot of bullshit like Hazama Vs Tager matchup being the same as Hazama Vs Tsubaki/Rachel or Makoto Vs Litchi (there are a lot more to list). However, you can pretty much say that Tao has even/good matchup against most of the cast. I would say she only has bad matchups against Rachel and Jin...and it's something like 4.5-5.5 matchups. @NeoGio0o: sorry, but...I didn't really understand your question
NeoGio0o Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 Ok set your training dummy to crouching and set blocking to none. Then Pick any character in the cast besides litchi (crouching hitbox too small) preferably someone like ragna. Input 2A,5B,5D-6, wait, IAD backwards, J.C or J.B (doesn't really matter). Now if done correctly your air normal should hit, but no matter how much you try for some reason you cannot combo into 5B when you land and I Can't understand why. Even if you do something like 2A,5B,5D-6, wait, IAD backwards,(Insert air normal), JC, J2B, you still cannot get 5B to come out when she touches the ground.
LunaKage Posted July 17, 2011 Posted July 17, 2011 Tao was my first sub in CT, 2AAA > 2B > 6A > j.AAA > dj.AAA > tj.AAA > 236BBBB best combo ever. But I could never player her correctly, so I focused on my main.
zibbazabba905 Posted July 21, 2011 Posted July 21, 2011 so there's a "tao score attack" thread...that's closed. Anyway, you're telling me there are people AFTER this cracked up bang?
SolarMisae Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 Tao boards need serious cleaning up too. D: It's still got unarchived CS1, even CT stuff in the main boards. It makes me sad to see her become so unpopular. :< The fact that they made her so boring is just not cool, cause as a character she's so far from that. She was also my first choice way back in CT days, but this was before I was really serious and still looking for my playstyle. She was always one of my favs.
Domethieus Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) No ones really seems to be here though =\ and mods on the forum aren't really cleaning up the Tao board. At least our board should look like the Carl boards lmfao EDIT: Does TaoFTW even play anymore? Edited July 24, 2011 by Domethieus
Asino Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) DOOOOOOD I suck with tao -________- I wanna main her, and be like but the new loop ughhhh... Edited July 24, 2011 by Asino
Ronove Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) What KM riku said above pretty much sums up EXACTLY what I was gonna say. I really enjoy the accessible AB2 combos, and her general neutral game, but she really does have a one track mind, especially with bnb. Not saying it's a bad thing for your win factor, but for character fun, she's dropped pretty low. Personally, just for me, I LOVE combos. I like creating stuff. But as riku said with DE, you can't create ANYTHING new without it being completely unusable in a real match. On a positive note, on JP tier lists, she's now top 3! :3 I pretty much share the same thoughts as Rin does, which is why I am moving Tao from main status to sub while trying other characters who can potentially be fun to main and use. Tao CS2 is boring. She hasn't changed THAT much but the point is that her overall gameplay hasn't truly evolved. There purple airgrab resets were potentially interesting but they're more of a gimmick than anything involving a true mindgame/mixup. Also, I really really dislike the changes to her j.D, it feels stiff and I definetely don't like the way she falls down after that. She's still a strong character, it's just that it feels like instead of getting more entertaining and varied she's gotten kind of mono-dimensional. Edited July 24, 2011 by Ronove
KM Riku Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 @Domethieus: I don't even know why TaoFTW is still a mod...he hasn't done a thing for the Tao forum after CT. In CS1, Ronove and XDest did most of the work. @Ronove: I think j.D it's fine, it was way too good in both damage and range. The only reason that Tao is still my main is because I REALLY feel unconfortable playing with other characters because I got too used with Tao mobility. Valkenhayn wolf form is almost next to that, but for some reason I didn't like Valk that much. Kokonoe playable would be the only thing that could make me drop Tao, but even so I think I won't lol. If the next BB is something like CT->CS1 with system changes instead of a basic update like CS2, I really hope they change the same-move proration system into something else. While I think it really helped to balance the game more (even though some moves lack it like Hazama's 6C), it's something that limits the player creativity and some characters combo potencial.
RinHara5aki Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 DOOOOOOD I suck with tao -________- I wanna main her, and be like but the new loop ughhhh... Maybe I should've made that tutorial video EDIT: Does TaoFTW even play anymore? TaoFTW is retired. He still plays Guilty Gear at norcal install's here and there, but he has left the scene awhile ago. Its sad, because he was a VERY strong Tao. If it wasn't for John, I wouldn't be here right now, I would never be inspired to play Blazblue, TheBBVlog wouldn't have existed, and I never would have seriously tried Tao. It was a sad farewell :[ Funny how like half of these Tao players here switched to the OTHER furry LOL... Tao j.D is kinda awkward, but honestly CS1 j.d having that much range was sorta broken. j.D is pretty strong in CS2 on hit anyways :P even on non counterhit confirms you can get some good combos Yaaaaayyy Makoto-nation =w=
Domethieus Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 The loop isn't hard though D: So, TaoFTW is retired on the BB scene. -1 Cali Tao again T_T Shouldn't there be a new mod then for Tao boards at least? I think XDest post every now and then....
RinHara5aki Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 "Hard" changes in the eye of the beholder. Some people don't understand how it works :P Its fuckin cakewalk for me, but for newbies (Which in my opinion, Tao players are NOT newbie friendly, all new players asking questions are ignored, which deters them from learning Tao...) its tough... Yes, we should have a new mod. I thought XDest would be a great choice. Knowledge-wise yes, but basic Mod duties, no... I guess I'll get Spirit Juice on this... again :/
KM Riku Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) I think he meant "when they decided to make XDest a mod, I thought he would be a great choice". XDest posts in Netplay General Thread, so it's not like he's not posting anymore or appearing just a few times. Edit: Anyway, I don't think the forum needs 2 mods at all since this forum is...you know...dead as fuck. Just tell XDest to do his job, if he don't...well, then people choose a new mod. Edited July 25, 2011 by KM Riku
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