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[LastStarSaviour]

Nah, I was just thinking about how Noel's optic barel instead of being a projectile move could be like a target that once you set out you can fire off a round from the gun and it would do something different depending on which version you use. Idk, my creativity levels for her moveset is ridiculous right now. I should probably use a different term.

[Milln]

She's probably going to play the same, with just new outfit and gun flavor.

Where'd Persona 4 go? Comes out Tuesday, guys, this doesn't.

[LastStarSaviour]

She's probably going to play the same, with just new outfit and gun flavor.

Where'd Persona 4 go? Comes out Tuesday, guys, this doesn't.

Unfortunately, that's the most likely scenario here (even though imma call it the worst case scenario).

Nothing wrong with showing a little bit of hype for BB3, it helped to cure a bit of the boredom I was having wating for P4U.

[Milln]

Nothing wrong with showing a little bit of hype for BB3, it helped to cure a bit of the boredom I was having wating for P4U.

juuuuuuust keeping everyone grounded.

[Volpe-de-Glacio]

Honestly I wasn't too distracted from P4U. I like the new characters, and the interface looks sexy, but I dunno. . . Seeing everyone in old outfits kinda killed the whole "AMG SHINY" hype, but Bullet. <3 I feel like I'll be more focused on GG or even KoF than BB3.

[LuminAbyss]

I can't believe nobody's mentioned it yet. You know towards the beginning of the trailer, when an announcer says "The Wheel of Fate is Turning"?

IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE COMPLETE AND UTTER ASS.

My words exactly.

[LastStarSaviour]

I don't understand why getting hype for a game (one that you've played most of your fighting game life) means that the hype you had for another game has died, it just doesn't make sense to me. I like BB, and i'm excited to see if BB3 can bring the feelings I had for the series back, what's wrong with expressing that hype? P4U is still a game that i'm hella psyched up to learn and play competitively.

Second, I don't recall BB dying on a world-wide scale or whatever the hell form people are trying to say it did. Each iteration of BB has had a decent-sized community, was it huge? Hell no, but people stil gathered to play it. Even now, people still play BB, mainly Japan but still. You can find videos, streams, and even still go to locals where BB communities are engaging in it.

We stopped running it here (because of low-turnouts apparently? Even though we said that wouldn't stop tournaments for it from being hosted but whatever). Another thing I have a problem with is the fact that people keep going on about BB being a bad game, even though most of the people who say this have never even gotten good at it, and take it out on the product rather than their own skills as players. It's too friggin frustrating to listen to, i'd rather people just not comment on the game at all.

I wasn't really that pissed off until I looked back at your post Milln, that seriously got to me. That coupled with the fact every other BB tournament that hasn't been commentated on by Jackie, Naimat, or me sounds like it's the worst thing since (insert bad game here).

I'm done venting for the day, off to find something more productive to do than posting on this friggin forum.

Edited August 5, 2012 by LastStarSaviour

[Jackie Chandler]

What I noticed in the Chrono Phantasma trailer that I haven't seen much mention of (all times assuming you're watching the video on jourdal's channel):

-There are no Guard Primers, nor is there a Guard Libra like there was in CT. It makes me wonder how the guard break system is going to work, if one even exists.

-Hazama uses what looks like 214DB at around 2:04, but what's different is that he does a forward step before he does it. And once the move lands, it builds a whopping 11 Heat. My prediction is that Hazama's stance might work a bit more like Hayabusa's in DOA, where you can double tap forward (and possibly backward) to move that direction. The benefit in doing this instead of simply dashing forward would be gaining access to the "buffed" version of the stance's move, likely by pressing the corresponding button before the dash ends. But that's pure speculation.

- Litchi probably has two new Distortions (though it may only be one). At 1:44 she can be seen using a new multi-hit Distortion in which she doesn't have her staff, and at 1:46 she uses a spinning move that involves her staff. That's why I'm assuming they're two different Distortions. If that's the case, Bang and Litchi are now tied for the most Distortions in the game at five.

-Hakumen gatlings 6A into 6B at 1:59. I'm fairly certain this is new, though it may be on-hit only.

-Platinum has a new item which looks like a present, shown multiple times over the course of the video. The trailer makes it look like a ground trap, which goes off whenever the enemy steps on it. Platinum's item count for it is at three when one is already on the ground, so I'm assuming you get four to make use of when you first get the item.

-Azrael seems to gain red/yellow meters when using certain moves. It can be seen illustrated at 1:03, where he uses a Distortion Drive that gives him both colored meters, and at 1:04, where he uses a meterless move that gives him the yellow meter. This probably explains the yellow glyph on Noel at 0:41, but what they do other than that is probably anyone's guess.

-Amane's Astral, when used against Ragna at 0:50, turns him into young Ragna. It's very likely that the result of the Astral is different for each character, kind of like with Relius's.

-New Murakumo Unit at 2:47? It might just be Noel.

-Whatever it is at 3:06 looks dumb.

[LastStarSaviour]

Jusice 2.0 at 3:06?

[Tophatmoffet]

I don't understand why getting hype for a game (one that you've played most of your fighting game life) means that the hype you had for another game has died.

It doesn't, but it does in the long run. If blazblue is anything to go by, there's a grand majority that will drop it as soon as an update is announced.

Second, I don't recall BB dying on a world-wide scale or whatever the hell form people are trying to say it did.

Sure it did. Look literally anywhere and you'll see that at maximum 1% of the total blazblue fanbase can be seen playing in tournaments or on youtube videos.

We stopped running it here (because of low-turnouts apparently? Even though we said that wouldn't stop tournaments for it from being hosted but whatever).

The minimum amount of people to hold what can be defined as a tournament is like 4 people. 2 brackets. 3 matches single elim, 4 matches double elim. We had 5 or 6 at MWC. Come on now. You'd get way more matches out of friendlies.

Another thing I have a problem with is the fact that people keep going on about BB being a bad game, even though most of the people who say this have never even gotten good at it, and take it out on the product rather than their own skills as players. It's too friggin frustrating to listen to, i'd rather people just not comment on the game at all.

The information, as I've been informed, has been explained to you over and over again. At least as I've been told. In my personal opinion, There's a reason blazblue doesn't get more than 30 people at majors. Even if I liked the game competitively, I could at least have the common sense to see that the majority of fighting game players agree that blazblue is bad. Even Blazblue.com could name 100 better games than blazblue. Thats sad.

Hell I DO actually like blazblue for it bring anything other than a fighting game.

every other BB tournament that hasn't been commentated on by Jackie, Naimat, or me sounds like it's the worst thing since (insert bad game here).

Sorry about that. That commentary wasn't even good satirically. I've failed dry humor.

[LastStarSaviour]

I recall people still playing CS when CS2 was announced and even still playing that when Extend was announced. I've never once seen playing of the game come to a complete halt for another iteration of the game.

I'd have to agree that the number of Americans playing and showing up in YouTube vids is low, it's not really dead. Japanese players still get uploads regularly and tournaments manage to stay relatively decent size there, but that's Japan. I'm not able to pull off exact numbers off the the top of my head, but I know more than 1%.

No one has ever once "explained" to me why BB is truly, to the core, a bad game. High-level players do tell me the bull-shit within the game but it's nothing relevant enough to completely write it off.

BB was never that popular in the south, to me it seems mostly the Street Fighter communities were what was big down here. Saying it only got like 5 to 6 people is meh, I guess.

Blazblue.com? I've never heard of this site but let me ask, how many of them are high-level players? How many of them know the system mechanics inide-and-out, and know how they impact each and every character? How many of them have played the game at its highest level and have consecutively won? Chances are, not many of them. Also, I have to ask how many of the people who say BB is bad is not going off outdated information or crappy sources. In the end, I want the people who call it bad, to actually play it and then give me feedback. Not go off what someone else heard, especially some obscure person at that, and then try to relay to me that it's a bad game, even though i'm trying to play it.

You guys' commentary wouldn't have been nearly as frustrating to listen to, had I not known you all hadn't touched the game since CS1 or CS2. Either ways, I dealt with it because the majority of the people I was surrounded by thought the game was bad and I didn't feel like trying to defend the game.

Edited August 5, 2012 by LastStarSaviour

[Milln]

Big Post

Pfffthahahahahaha hella overreacting, not even gonna say anything else about it.

In other news, I might just get Persona Mayonnaise and run away all day with Yukiko or cut people with knives while jammin to my beats Yosuke.

[LastStarSaviour]

You don't have to, I wasn't posting it to necesarily get feedback from anyone, especially when I know what the answer i'm going to get from people is. Was just venting my thoughts after I saw something that made me rage for a moment. But yeah, just go ahead and write it off as overreacting if you want to.

Play yosuke nigga, we need more Yosuke players. I want to see super jump, throw my knives all day, make it happen Milln.

[Milln]

Play yosuke nigga, we need more Yosuke players. I want to see super jump, throw my knives all day, make it happen Milln.

I'll see what I can do. I did declared I was open to pressing buttons.

I sorry I made you upset. It's never my intention. =o

Edited August 5, 2012 by Milln

[Jackie Chandler]

Another thing I just noticed in the CP trailer: during Bang's new Distortion (Hammer Time lol), Hakumen's Counter Distortion, and briefly during one of Amane's Distortions (shown towards the very end of the video), the Distortion background is red instead of the standard blue. In the former two, there's something funky going on with (what I'm assuming is) the Burst Icon. But in the last one, it seems like it's there, and then... It suddenly isn't.

Anybody got theories on what it might mean?

[Tophatmoffet]

I recall people still playing CS when CS2 was announced and even still playing that when Extend was announced.

Just how many people do you remember? Did they go to tournies? I'm almost sure they didnt because blazblue has never had an amazing tournament scene in america. Tournies are the effective litmus test of how well a community is doing because it gauges how many people actually want to spend money driving somewhere to support their game.

I'm not able to pull off exact numbers off the the top of my head, but I know more than 1%. BB was never that popular in the south, to me it seems mostly the Street Fighter communities were what was big down here. Saying it only got like 5 to 6 people is meh, I guess.

You're missing the big picture. Certainly there are tournaments in japan, and certainly there are people playing the game on youtube, but you have to ask yourself when awnsering my question "Just how many people play this game?" There were probably about 100,000 playing continuum shift in america, if the sales figures I found are to be believed. So seeing names you know on jourdal's videos should imply that there's roughly 20 people total, playing blazblue in japan at that arcade at that time. If we're going by just that measurement, then 1% is generous. And those are the people showing up in videos.

No one has ever once "explained" to me why BB is truly, to the core, a bad game. High-level players do tell me the bull-shit within the game but it's nothing relevant enough to completely write it off.

Well I'm not going to sit here and list off every single problem I have with the game, so I'm going to give you one so you can extrapolate from there. For example, ground tech rolling, as it exists in blazblue, and has since CT, is way too powerful a tool for destroying a very basic component of fighting games: oki. It was a horrible design decision, and remains that way today. No longer do you have to patiently wake up, think, and react to a mixup every time you get up. The game as a whole is littered with simple, some even subtle design decisions that turn a lot of people off. Ask anyone in this thread and they can probably give you their favorite. You probably have one.

Blazblue.com? I've never heard of this site but let me ask, how many of them are high-level players? How many of them know the system mechanics inide-and-out, and know how they impact each and every character? How many of them have played the game at its highest level and have consecutively won? Chances are, not many of them. Also, I have to ask how many of the people who say BB is bad is not going off outdated information or crappy sources.

Haw, absolutely none of them are even close to high level play, as far as I've been told. But you're missing the point. A site dedicated to blazblue's existence realizes that as a game, blazblue is not that superb.

You guys' commentary wouldn't have been nearly as frustrating to listen to, had I not known you all hadn't touched the game since CS1 or CS2.

Most graciously, I would like you to know that there is a reason people stopped playing blazblue. I cant pretend to know other people's motives, but if it were me (and it is me because the last I played was CS2), I wouldnt play a game that hasn't solved the problems I quit for. It doesnt matter what the last time anyone played it was. All it added was characters and combos, and fixed nothing.

[Papstr]

@Milln - You can always just rely on fundamentals, and then mash 5A for combos anyway. It's like the game was designed for "i can press buttons" in mind! Haha.

Speaking of, my Amazon delivery got moved to August 10th. I panicked and talked to a sales rep, I placed a new order (with 1-day shipping. 3.99, as opposed to the free 2-day. but it wouldn't have guaranteed arrival on release day) and now its K for 7th again. So help me if it changes I might.. I might cry or somethin'

[Milln]

Yo.

Everyone.

Right NOW.

Pull up your task manager and look for "netsession_win.exe"

It's not anything scary, I just want to know who has it, how many instances of processes it's running on your computer, and WHEN it installed on your machine.

Open invitation for the lurkers we get to respond, as well. I'm very much aware what company this is from, I'm just interested in how widespread it is.

[Seiki]

I agree with Star for once people judge the game with a lack of experience. One of the most common arguments is that oki is weak because there are rolls. If you played the game enough or even tried to play in training mode a little characters have some option selects to punish roll attempts, especially if you try to roll out of the corner. Example is just doing 2A,2B with a lot of characters, and hell Hazama can buffer 214 214 A+B if you roll out he hits you with Jayakou if you stay in the corner he just barriers but he doesn't even need to do that, you can just mash 2A with him and you are forced to neutral tech. It's a different kind of oki game you are playing in BB and it's just people used to typical convention of neutral techs being in almost every other fighter. I actually applaud BB for doing something different.

Oh and just because there aren't youtube/niconico videos of tournament footage does not mean a game doesn't get loved. Some of the strongest BB players in Japan you will never see in tourney footage except like SBO. Like honestly how much of say Shonen or Tsujikawa do you see? Those guys who won SBO and GodsGarden BB tournies. Players as good as them exist and continue to play the game just not on camera.

At the end of the day a "bad" fighter is just opinion based. BB became known as a "bad" game not because people took time to learn and understand it and then formulate an opinion, but because the majority of people judge a game from watching videos and reading up on the mechanics, hardly touching the game. And then you have all these people saying it's a bad game and it becomes a fad and other people say it because it's socially acceptable/cool.

@Jackie: I noticed that there aren't two burst icons but the little symbol that replaces them is marked with an X when you are grabbed or in the middle of the distortions so maybe you only get one burst per round? About the red background and the little icon, I have two theories:

1)counter distortions might just have a different background, maybe to indicate different properties added to them v.s. other distortions (since they were kind of ass in previous games), Bang has guard points maybe his Hammer Time super is a guard point/counter type super which makes sense since his Astral where he uses his nail has full body guard point.

2)Maybe it's like Persona where you need to meet specific requirements to use certain supers. Maybe you have to have that icon? Or activate it or something? It looks like an activation since it kind of opens up. And you can see it slowly closing in Hakumen's distortion.

One other thing, in CS1 they took out everyone's, except Jin's, markers for the 25 and 75 heat markers because no one had "Ex" moves minus Jin. In this one they added it back in so I'm guessing everyone got Ex moves and each marker, 25,50,75, and 100 is color coded the same as Guilty Gear lol.

[Volpe-de-Glacio]

Yo.

Everyone.

Right NOW.

Pull up your task manager and look for "netsession_win.exe"

It's not anything scary, I just want to know who has it, how many instances of processes it's running on your computer, and WHEN it installed on your machine.

Open invitation for the lurkers we get to respond, as well. I'm very much aware what company this is from, I'm just interested in how widespread it is.

Not me.

[Milln]

http://gamegalaxyarcade.com/site-news/game-galaxy-arcade-in-antioch-finally-reopening-sunday-august-5-noon-to-6pm

Also poopfarms, we're on the same date as ARK.

Gruhhh.... At least we're still coinciding with the other monthly that Jason does.

Edited August 6, 2012 by Milln

[LastStarSaviour]

Yo.

Everyone.

Right NOW.

Pull up your task manager and look for "netsession_win.exe"

It's not anything scary, I just want to know who has it, how many instances of processes it's running on your computer, and WHEN it installed on your machine.

Open invitation for the lurkers we get to respond, as well. I'm very much aware what company this is from, I'm just interested in how widespread it is.

I aint got it.

[Papstr]

Yea naimat got me lol. I don't really HATE Blazblue, or think its BAD. I personally just got bored of it (inb4WELLTHATSCUZRAGNASBORING no, fuck you, hes the only character I liked. I tried them all) and I do feel like theres a few things that irk me. the rolling isn't one of them. if CP (haha) garners my interest I'll go for it.

EDIT: provided dustloop allows me to talk more (since it seems to be having issues) it's more of like the feel just isn't right. Or something. I like it but don't. I'm not really gonna elaborate too much, since I don't think I'm qualified to give an opinion, nor do I think anyone cares.

Edited August 6, 2012 by Papstr

[Milln]

Mmkay, so Papstr and Kain do, Star and Volpe don't. I did... Interesting.

I like watching Protagonist lay down traps and shooting guns.

Star, how far are you in Graces, now? =O

[Milln]

I would like to take a moment to remember our fallen friend Zach G, more affectionately known as Midnight. I first met him as a Smash player in Brawl. He played Meta Knight. One time, my doubles partner couldn't make it so I teamed with him and we sweeped the entire Doubles tournaments with our Lucario/Meta Knight combination. From there, he would continue to tier whore in every game the community tried out. Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, BlazBlue, he even attempted in KOF before... before... *sniffle*

THIS IS THE FACE OF A MAN TAKEN FROM US FAR TOO SOON BY LEAGUE OF LEGENDS. Look at the fear in his eyes! He knows that his time is short even while enjoying what he loves in the company of friends! Never again will we see that smile. Never again will we be stuck blocking in the corner as he mixes us up for free.

So long Midnight... It's been a long time coming and I finally got the strength and courage to do it.

Farewell, buddy. You'll be missed. Everyone at MTNG loves you.

I'm gonna go cry my eyes out.

Edited August 6, 2012 by Milln