Seiki Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Kyle, I've been struggling in these matchups with Johnny. Against Chipp and Millia, these characters seem to cover a lot of space quickly and come in at angles I have a hard time controlling, and when I try to be offensive they have an easy time avoiding me. I also don't know where in Millia's pressure can I get out of or attack, and what my options are when she knocks me down and goes for oki. I need tips on catching Bridget as well. When I played Jais the hardest part was trying to get close to initiate my offense. And lastly, any tips on what to do in the neutral game against Potemkin and moroha mode A.B.A.?
Seiki Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 Oh and what are some tips for me to do during neutral game with Venom?
Kyle Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Kyle, I've been struggling in these matchups with Johnny. Against Chipp and Millia, these characters seem to cover a lot of space quickly and come in at angles I have a hard time controlling, and when I try to be offensive they have an easy time avoiding me. A few match-up notes about those two characters: Do not chase them, they will always be out of reach. You are better off predicting their movement and counter-poking where they WILL be, not where they are. When Millia has the needle, she has an un-challenged Air-to-ground approach into mixup, you challenge her on the ground and you lose. When she has the needle, stay in the air. Once the needle is out you have to camp the needle. This turns her objective into coming at you & taking risk. ^_^ CAMP THE NEEDLE. Chipps annoying, but his low health makes up for the few times you will get a chance to whack him. Where in Millia's pressure can I get out of or attack/ stop using barrier, start using InstantBlock. If she rolls, you throw her. If she cancel's to the blue-orb, you jump away or CH-5HS her. If she jump cancels, you should jump cancel too. My options when she knocks me down and goes for oki Learn to block. not Barrier, but IB is best. Defensively you COULD backdash, but strong defensive is your best tool. I need tips on catching Bridget as well Predicting her movement, patient play and Counter-Hit her with superjumping J.D into a combo. What to do in the neutral game against Potemkin Your objective at neutral against POT is to stay at Far.Slash range and have the ability to 2-hit any/all of your pokes. This eliminates Hammerfall and forces him to poke wisely. Stuff like far.slash into coin into dash can set you up for a low or throw and cover hammerfall. As soon as he respects you, dash throw him. Hammerfall can be thrown, so offensive throws from Johnny are great. At that range you will get coins to hit & you land good damaging BnB's. What to do in the neutral game against moroha mode A.B.A. her j.hs is a MONSTER, you MUST jump & IB it. If you are close enough, you get a free ground-throw. If you jumped too early, you are further out and can only jump away. She will aproach you from a J.hs or a running Far.slash. Far.Slash is good b/c the range and the threat of running Danzai (ARMOR). From Johnny, a simple coin dash should challenge her enough on the ground at neutral to win confrontations. BUT, more importantly, against A.B.A you objective is to not allow her to transform. That does not mean RUSH against ABA, that means stay just out of her range and poke the shit outta her so her blood-packs are interrupted. ABA's range sucks and so does her movement, be sure to watch for her FB-Slide into a throw and throw.her.first. This will SERIOUSLY help your matches against ABA. Oh and what are some tips for me to do during neutral game with Venom As Venom or against Venom? Edited August 13, 2013 by Kyle
Vandy Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Hey guys, I would like to add Friday Events for KiT: Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R Skullgirls Would anyone be willing to run or stream those events? Also, what system would you like those games to be run on? I would like to run those 2 games and persona all on the same system. I would prefer PS3 for all of those games.
Seiki Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Thanks for the tips Kyle! Also, I meant what to do against venom. I'm surprised by how much I am getting outpoked by venom.
Kyle Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Against Venom I am not very experienced, I only know (2) unique things. - SlashBack his Dubious-Curve on block. - At neutral, you should use J.IB against his random balls to gain extra air options.
Bane Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 A couple of people down here are actually practicing GG for MBB. I played a good 3 hour set with one of them last night. Sadly enough, the same person managed to get me hype for Xrd. I might end up playing it now :L
Jackie Chandler Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Sadly enough, the same person managed to get me hype for Xrd. I might end up playing it now :L I don't think you know what the word "sadly" means. :P
Milln Posted August 17, 2013 Author Posted August 17, 2013 My vacation is definitely happening. MY HOUSE IS OPEN FROM AUGUST 20TH TO 26TH. Friday, Smash crew is coming over to play and get drunk. I know I said mini-party, but maybe I recommend against unless you're in Cookeville and don't want to drive a long time in the morning to Memphis. Saturday, i'm going to Memphis Bawse Battles. Sunday, HOUSE PARTY WHERE ERRBODY AT LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Astaroth136 Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) These changes seem okay, but most of the nerfs are just dumb. More j.C recovery? J.B has less hitstun? Less grab range? WTF? Kanji New *New Move: Shoulder Charge. Might beat projectiles? *SB chair super wallbounds on last hit. (Functions like Naoto wallbound?) *214214CD doesn't have 0F startup, but increased range over 214214C/D. Buffs: +236A/B performable in air. +Command Throws are available in Persona Break. +5C causes Paralysis on hit Nerfs -Persona Cards lowered to 3. -j.B to 214B no longer works. -Air backdash distance reduced by half. -Normal grab range shortened. -Recovery after j.C is increased. -j.B Untechable time reduced Unconfirmed ?5AA and 5AAA are now different. 5AA now hits like A.B.A.'s Moroha HS, 5AAA throws the opponent into the air. Theoretically can combo after that with air moves. 5AA has the same cancel options as it does now. ?236A/B followup changed, not quite sure how at the moment. SB version is either unchanged or just hasn't been changed yet. ?Faster sweep ?D grab changed (able to move before throw comes out?) Edited August 18, 2013 by Astaroth136
Seiki Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 Astaroth can you meet at game galaxy parking lot around 6 a.m. saturday morning?
Anne Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 If anybody wants to practice anything with me this week please hit me up. I'm rusty in some spots on Persona and SF4. I really wanna play +R with people but MBB is supposedly gonna be AC so idk what I'm gonna do about that.
Milln Posted August 19, 2013 Author Posted August 19, 2013 I'll be going around doing visits this week. Imma go find a Papstr and some Cookeville-kuns. I'll be bringing Klein/M'Ellis/Star for maximum bro-age.
Klein Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 I'll be going around doing visits this week. Imma go find a Papstr and some Cookeville-kuns. I'll be bringing Klein/M'Ellis/Star for maximum bro-age. You're the best Milln
littlefang17 Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Aww your not coming to where I live you guys suck....
Astaroth136 Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Astaroth can you meet at game galaxy parking lot around 6 a.m. saturday morning? As dumb as it sounds, I might have to cancel. Not sure yet... x_x
Milln Posted August 19, 2013 Author Posted August 19, 2013 Aww your not coming to where I live you guys suck.... Yeah we are. The whole crew'll see you on Saturday at Memphis Bawse Battles.
littlefang17 Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 ouch not happening. Football Game Friday and the band is playing. Even worse its away at Millington. I probably will be dead after the game soo...yeah.....
Anne Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) Going to GG tonight, bringing +R for those needing to practice for KoB Also, MBB is AC+, just double checked on SRK to make sure. So no need to worry about that. Edited August 20, 2013 by AnneIFrank
Astaroth136 Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 Naimat and Milln, I'm officially cancelling my attendance to MBB. Sorry guys, but thanks for offering the help.
Seiki Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 Naimat and Milln, I'm officially cancelling my attendance to MBB. Sorry guys, but thanks for offering the help. If it's because you can't make it to GG parking lot I don't mind coming to your place and picking you up.
Astaroth136 Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 If it's because you can't make it to GG parking lot I don't mind coming to your place and picking you up. Nah, that's not it at all. Sorry if I made it seem that way. lol I'll explain at a future gathering why I cancelled. It's not even that interesting or important, but I'm too lazy to type it all out.
Seiki Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 For those of you interested in learning KOF this is the one stop shop for all the tutorials you will ever need for the game. I promise you that. http://www.youtube.com/user/JuiceboxAbel/videos
Mr.Minionman Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) Had a great time at the house party, really wish I could've stayed longer. On a personal note I'm glad I felt like the practice I've put into FGs is starting to pay off, and getting pummeled in GG only makes me want to practice more. Good games to everyone I had the chance to play, and I hope to be fiercer competition next time too! EDIT: do we have a recording for the Papstr/Naimat FT10? Was playing KoF while that was happening. Edited August 26, 2013 by Mr.Minionman
Anne Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Had a great time at the house party, really wish I could've stayed longer. On a personal note I'm glad I felt like the practice I've put into FGs is starting to pay off, and getting pummeled in GG only makes me want to practice more. Good games to everyone I had the chance to play, and I hope to be fiercer competition next time too! EDIT: do we have a recording for the Papstr/Naimat FT10? Was playing KoF while that was happening. The LGP was set up so I sure as hell hope that got recorded. GGs to everybody involved last night. I'm too busy to work on anything today, Divasports/GG tomorrow, and doctor's on Wednesday, but as soon as all that's done I'm gonna spend more time practicing +R. I'm really having fun with it and I can only play Star so many times in P4U -_-. Gonna hit up Skelly and learn some ABA.
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