[CS2] Jin vs Mu-12

[Yuushiro]

Going to update these as I have time to gather information from people’s and my own experience and translate what the Japanese are saying in the wiki or BBS

For now you guys can discuss the matchup here.

Basic/Matchup overview:

long-distance:

mid range:

short range:

Best tools:

Best way to pressure:

Their strategy vs us:

Best overall strategy:

[LunarSelenia]

So I've been playing this matchup a lot lately, I know this is actually quite an uphill battle for Mu players, but I still have trouble.

I know Mu's are supposed to zone Jin away, I get a bunch of Totsuka and Habaya before she actually approaches and by then I usually screw up my blockswitching to eat a 6B > SoD and land in the corner...I know I have to work on reacting to that, usually I catch it too late.

I don't really have a solid way of approaching this matchup, I've been going with gut instinct.

Though I have been baiting her DP which leads to fun damage...just sometimes it's not always her DP that comes out and it's 2C instead >.<;;

Any tips on this matchup?

[Chris Chaos]

Well, I struggle from this match up as well but as far as I can tell you from my experience:

-Playing footsies/using projectiles would be a pretty good start, but you have to be wary that her range is longer than yours

-Jumping in is not a good option, she will 2C the life out of you and if you're attacking you just gave her the combo of a lifetime. You really want to try and play neutral in this fight as much of an uphill battle that is.

-Watch her pressure strings, most Mu's i've played will try to hit you with lol 6.c or SOD at the end of her strings. If she doen't have enough heat to RC SOD, punish it by IB'ing then attacking with 66, 5c or (dare I say it?) drive car.

-Things get easier when Jin is on the inside of this match up; he can apply pressure on Mu forcing her to block allowing you to go for mixups, resets ect. if your inside, use every freaking tool you've got to pressure her into making mistakes and capitalize. Watch out for her DP, it will set you back to square 1 if you get hit by it but if you can block it, you can punish her with even more damaging combos.

The way I see it, it's all about watching the Mu player and see how they react to certain situations, then counter attack when she messes up. I'm just telling you what works for me, not necessarily the answer but I hope it helps you out.

If anybody else got any tips, I would love to hear them too.

[Xx_Hoshi_xX]

Jin thread seems to be pretty dead lol but since I am a jin main, I think it's about time I start sharing my knowledge as well. This match up requires a lot of patience. You can't just go 5c-a-blazing and think it'll work. The tools that I find most useful in this match up are 236b, jc, 2d, 5b, and jb. Use jc or jb when they are airborne, but respect her jc. Some mus will sj jd charged and airdash from you. stay patient and wait to see which way they plan to go. Also, you can use jb to bait her 5c. Jin's 5c isn't nearly as effective in this match up. I wouldn't advice using it at long distance. Be weary of 5c baiting, if you use jb too often to catch them using 5c they may wait and use 6a or 2c, so use it judiciously. 23678c or 236b work well in this match up. However, I would not use them foolishly. For example, if she has just deployed three steins I would not use it. Try to catch them in the middle of of her, this way if it hits they the steins do not shoot. when you are close on her use 5b, it will beat 5c with ease and may even beat her 5b (i'm not sure of that so check the frames). I would imagine though that 2b would be a problem seeing as hoe it has pretty good reach, so I would watch out for it. 2d can sometimes catch them backdashing or airdashing back; it can also catch them using 5c or steins. However, use it effectively. They may realize what you are attempting and just dash forward to use 5c. if you see that a mu is spamming the drive you can use 632146c, very little risk but it's up to the player if they are willing to use the heat for it. That being said, there are types of mu: the ultimate zoner, which uses steins and 236a repeatedly, then there are the semi-zoners, the ones who use the drive but utilize her normals more. It all depends on the player styles so try adapting. Overall, just play it safe. Shin adviced 214d... I wouldn't through it out the window but I wouldn't use it unless I had heat to cancel. Then again, I don't think it is too wise to go for something that risky. If you respect her 5c and aa's you should do well.

[Solex]

um idk about playing it safe, you really dont wanna waste an opportunity to get in and ruin her day.

while she does have very good footsies options you should be able to poke her out of her 5c with your own 5c and 5b

when doing anything offensive against her try to be aware of her steins and what she has done with them that laser that keeps going despite you

hitting(236d) is mainly what im talking about

like you said 236b is godlike just be cautious of doing it but it can be great for pokeing her when shes trying to setup. i hate tk c ice sword in this match up tho i always regret doing it, while it can be useful to get her to block its just to slow and she react and respond accordingly i.e. getting you to have to stop your approach by blocking or w/e

mu's love their dp cause its amazing, it might even be the best in the game, it has guard point and invuln its only downsides are its not Air unblock and its range isnt that great but still decent, bait it all day

her anti airs are terrifying they both lead to pretty good damage and have head invuln but they can be shitted on with a very well timed jump in j.c and j.b but i dont recommend trying that to often

when she is in the air be careful of her j.2c it halts her momentum and has a pretty low hitbox so 2a AA can lose to it BUT if she uses it incorrectly where she whiffs u can hit her cause of landing recovery

....you might wanna take everything i said with a grain of salt because when i fought cor i got bodied

Edited September 17, 2011 by Solex