Milln Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 I'm basically always here since I have it bookmarked in my phone. All I have to do is click my browser and hit refresh. Sometimes it refreshes for me!
Jackie Chandler Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 You know, Star, one time someone found a teenager that had been locked in a room her entire life(while investigating shady parents) and they gave her up to some psychologists/psychiatrists. She had been so secluded and unloved for so long that they could not get her to form proper speech or even react positively to many things. Food for thought. =o (for Jackie too) Wow, that's pretty terrible. I mean, my parents don't keep me locked up in my room or anything ridiculous, but I do have my restrictions even though I'm an adult. Hell, I'm even restricted to the company I can invite over in some cases. That said, I can totally see why Star might have wanted to delete his last post. That probably wouldn't have flown with my parents, either.
LastStarSaviour Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Yo Middy, get on PSN some time. Haven't played you in a while. @Grimstar, i'll ignore that comment for now........
Astaroth136 Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 I'll be at Game Galaxy all day Friday for some MvC3 practice. If you want a "sneek peek" at the MODOK you'll see at MWC, then swing on by. Hulk will also be making an appearance to hurt people's feelings.
Milln Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) I'll be at Game Galaxy all day Friday for some MvC3 practice. If you want a "sneek peek" at the MODOK you'll see at MWC, then swing on by. Hulk will also be making an appearance to hurt people's feelings. Too bad I work Friday, I wanted to see you being a boss monster to everyone. I have a lot of confidence in your ability to not only place well, but dominate. Patty, too, with his Wolv and Mags. I'll be rooting for you two! @ps3 users: Since I'm now at NewHome more often than OldHome, I actually do have a ps3 copy of BB, but no stick to play on. @Tad: WHERE IS THOR Edited June 14, 2011 by Milln
Top_Cat Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Yo Middy, get on PSN some time. Haven't played you in a while. @Grimstar, i'll ignore that comment for now........ laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. i'll probs get wrecked at mwc lawl
Papstr Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Back from my college orientation lol. Most it felt like a pretty pointless experience, but heck, college life might be fun. Oh Milln, dig that Garen dubstep off your phone and upload it. I can't find it anywhere :/
LastStarSaviour Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. i'll probs get wrecked at mwc lawl Most likely, but then again your laziness will be the thing to blame, for shame. Before you know it me and 2D (Funny Noel reference) will take your place in ranking. Speaking of gun girl, just learned a new 5.6k mid-screen char specific combo (long flippin title, being made even longer by inputting this) that works on three chars, can you guess who they are? Edited June 14, 2011 by LastStarSaviour
Milln Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 And then Star wins all the MTNG's and people start having Noel fantasies. @Paps: it's titled "The Demacian Brotherhood" try that.
LastStarSaviour Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 And then Star wins all the MTNG's and people start having Noel fantasies. @Paps: it's titled "The Demacian Brotherhood" try that. I like the way you think Milln, old pal. But seriously new Noel is insane. I actually got an instant kill combo off on Tao ONLINE!!! Too bad his rage-quit failed him, I got to save it.
Astaroth136 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Not even scared of Midnight any more. LSS is the new threat...
Seiki Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Bang is still a threat...right? >_> I realized why Japan put him with Tager on the tier list. on wakeup he has no reversals except one that costs 50 heat which has no range and all of his normals are slower than the majority of the casts'. His 5a vs other chars 5a his 5b vs other chars 5b etc. Literally on knockdown against makoto and several others like Jin, Ragna, Noel, Tao, etc. I am forced to eat a mixup Nothing on wakeup beats her options. I am also finding I can punish a lot more things with other chars normals (ex. Jin) when I IB compared to Bang where his normals are a tad bit too slow to punish most offensive pressure. But oh well. I've dealt with the BS in CT and I'll deal with it in CS2.
Astaroth136 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Do characters need DPs to get out of pressure now? There's this thing called blocking and breaking grabs. Overheads aren't hard to block offline, and neither is breaking grabs. For three games, I've had to get out of pressure the old fashioned way: blocking/instant blocking, breaking grabs, and barriering. Then, to get out of this pressure, I had to find an opening. Bang should be able to IB 2A in places where Jin can punish.
Seiki Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Well you also have a 720 a 360 atomic collider and MTW so it's not really that great of a comparison. You say blocking and breaking grabs like someone would say "hey just don't get hit" it is more difficult than you put it and I know you as a player struggle to block and break grabs and those overheads? You eat those so I don't know why you are saying they are easy to block. This is just from my experience playing you. My point isn't that you need a reversal. I am saying that he lacks a lot of options on wakeup/on block that the majority of the other chars have and that is partly why he is low tier.
Eshi Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 noel's only reversal costs 50 heat and is even worse than bang's. rachel is even worse than that. Bang being low mid literally has nothing to do with his defensive options, which are pretty decent.
Seiki Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Noel also has nice invincibility frames on her drives, good AA, etc. Rachel's character design is meant to play keep away/lock down (in the corner) so why would they give her a good dp? That would be the opposite of trying to reward the opponent who actually gets close to her and initiates an offense after having to work around her projectile and wind. Those two characters don't need a good reversal they have other great options. And actually Bang's defensive options are pretty sub par compared to most of the cast. The most obvious being his drive which is supposed to aid him on the defensive end struggles to be useful even after IB for example his 5d can be hit low and the attack itself has lots of start up so even after i guard point a person can continue their blockstring (for most characters) and hit me before my attack even comes out and even if i teleport the opponent will autocorrect and continue the blockstring which now converts to a combo with a counterhit starter. His 6D's guard point becomes active the fastest of all of his drives but it suffers the same problem as 5d and if you teleport C (which is as far from the opponent as possible) its recovery frames on whiff is worse than ragna's 5D. His 2D is his best overall guard point but it is susceptible to lows and they nerfed the active frames on the guard point so I find myself getting counter hit when trying to Anti air with it or when i use it to IB>2D the opponent's pressure. Eshi what good defensive options are you talking about? And what is it then that makes him low tier?
Eshi Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Noel also has nice invincibility frames on her drives, good AA, etc.Her invincible drives are literally unchanged from CS1, except for 5D which was made worse. Remember how good she was then? Her new anti-air is strong but that's hardly why she jumped to S. Rachel's character design is meant to play keep away/lock down (in the corner) so why would they give her a good dp? That would be the opposite of trying to reward the opponent who actually gets close to her and initiates an offense after having to work around her projectile and wind.This is kind of my point. Rachel doesn't need better than average defensive options to be high tier, because that can be made up for with good blocking. my guard points have countersThey also have uses. It's not like Bang's drive is worthless just because it can be countered. All of Noel's drives are counterable, hell, they're easy to counter. The point is that Bang isn't low tier because of his defensive options, you just need to block better. He's low tier because of other stuff like having to work really hard for midscreen damage.
Grimstar Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 buhduerp.... ,maybe soon I'll throw in BBCS2 and actually relearn hazama just for the sake of being able to play this game... fucking weeaboo shits making me relearn my own god damn character /drunkpost
Seiki Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Good blocking consists of a lot of guessing even if one is to argue finding patterns in the opponent. No one player thinks the same throughout the match so you don't know a true pattern from said player and so you are actually guessing some of the time. And if blocking is partly guessing it is best to have other options that are reliable. You can't just mixup your offense you have to mixup your defense as well. Some characters have options on defense/wakeup that allows them to mixup their defense and "good blocking" doesn't compensate for those options. Aren't Noel's drives faster? or is the cancel faster? I think it's a combination of both I know somehow they made them faster and is part of why she is considered S Actually midscreen damage isn't that bad since he gets 3.2k from the position of where the char starts at the beginning of the round and he has 2.7k corner carry midscreen combos both of these are with 5A starters btw. 5B adds on like 800 damage or so.
Astaroth136 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Well you also have a 720 a 360 atomic collider and MTW so it's not really that great of a comparison. You say blocking and breaking grabs like someone would say "hey just don't get hit" it is more difficult than you put it and I know you as a player struggle to block and break grabs and those overheads? You eat those so I don't know why you are saying they are easy to block. This is just from my experience playing you. My point isn't that you need a reversal. I am saying that he lacks a lot of options on wakeup/on block that the majority of the other chars have and that is partly why he is low tier. Everybody expects 360 on wakeup. Neutral tech into collider is suicide. 720, I don't always have 50 heat AND it's unsafe. MTW, unsafe unless I have 100 heat. So yeah, Tager doesn't have the best options here, but they are options nonetheless. About the whole blocking thing, of course I get hit by stuff too (epecially online). But, there's no denying I have the best defense out of all of us mid TN players. Don't take that as gloating or anything, but think about who I've used in all three games. I've spent more time blocking/IB'ing than most people. Hell, Midnight complained that he cannot use Litchi overheads on me, and Chandler has seen me react to Gauntlet Hades many times (even so far as to punish it with collider).
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