Reamatsu Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 May an old friend come back and play the lightening loli again?
Osmond Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) http://youtu.be/gGOrR2HZ8ew etc. Anyway nice combo thread Sakaku. Anyone who has EX already, get any match-up notes ready within the few months leading to NA EX release. Wait what is that...? Ueda, dahling what is that? Iron Tagu? IRON TAGU?...at least you can say Carl...I think. Edited January 5, 2012 by Osmond
Star-Demon Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 I don't recall posting this before, but here's a present: http://blast0r.deviantart.com/#/d48v4d7
LuminAbyss Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 May an old friend come back and play the lightening loli again? Come back to us. ; - ;
tofurr Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Anyone who has EX already, get any match-up notes ready within the few months leading to NA EX release. Someone get notes ready for Hazama. :|
Reamatsu Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Come back to us. ; - ; As tempting as that may be I like to make Ragna life a living hell with some of the characters that enjoy fucking with him. I can only imagine the possibilities after Saya is playable as the antagonist to the BB story.
tofurr Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Come back to us. ; - ; There are enough of you guys around though. :[
Chazmobile Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 There are enough of you guys around though. :[ Even more in CSE god forbid
GenoWhirl Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ut8gEWasW0#t=1m20s Best Rachel combo
Osmond Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 this looks cute Oh dear god...Waldstein, you look incredibly ridiculous in every way. You will probably be incredibly bad. I would probably go with Linne from a design stand point. Best Rachel combo I would have to agree
Lufenia Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 the only onei like is the boy in the beginning... looks like a character from wonderful world.
gli Posted January 6, 2012 Author Posted January 6, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ut8gEWasW0#t=1m20s Best Rachel combo Matsu special lol. He does that quite a bit in a few other replays.
Chaoschao222 Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Oh dear god...Waldstein, you look incredibly ridiculous in every way. You will probably be incredibly bad. I would probably go with Linne from a design stand point. Best character 2nd best character
Osmond Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Best character 2nd best character Unless that loli has an elegantly acidic whit like Rachel I ain't biting.
Chaoschao222 Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 She's the first character I've seen in a fighting game in a looooong time where I see her default color scheme and think "Yes, that's the color I will always use" because goddamn, dat color scheme~
Herbal Grey Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ut8gEWasW0#t=1m20s Best Rachel combo that was awesome proof that i need to watch more videos...i thought i was cool cuz i could do that once...not twice........at least there's ONE new thing to start getting good at in ex besides summoning pumpkin after j.2c -_-
Osmond Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Dropping this here: S Laguna, Varuken, Hakumen A Hazama, Taokaka, Bang, Karl, Arachne B+ Reriusu , μ, platinum, lambda B Noel, Rachel, lychee, gin, Teiga C Tsubaki, M. Source is JBBS. I know posting this is asking for trouble but what do you guys think of this? I mean they hardly changed Rachel...the nurfs are not that significant and yet she is down to "just B tier", it really makes me wonder just how much stronger they made everyone else.
gli Posted January 6, 2012 Author Posted January 6, 2012 I think she should be placed a bit higher than that. Same with Litchi. Don't worry about this too much anyway. Just play by the match ups. I'm more worried about Relius match up.
tofurr Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 I'm assuming 'M.' is Makoto. If so, damn, she got effed in the squirrel butt. Also, have you or Tari started working on the wiki page?
Sakaku Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Placing her under Noel seems awkward. I wouldn't say she's A, but probably the middle of B+. But as glirandly says, don't worry about that too much, she's still good enough to annoy people. Regarding the Relius MU, I feel like instead of zoning, we better wait for Relius to make his move. Using too much lobelias doesn't seem to be a very good option because you'll eat a (CH) 214B (the attack where Ignis teleports herself behind the opponent) into either a combo or into dirty Relius mix-up. Because we like to zone, this is a very exploitable tactic to punish or at least make him block with a winded air dash while he throws out 214B's preemptively trying to punish any fullscreen summons. I'm assuming 'M.' is Makoto. If so, damn, she got effed in the squirrel butt. I got somewhat trashed by a Makoto today ... But I'm happy that her overhead is 2 frames slower now. I swear, I was never able to block that in CS2. edit: Dustloop has a wiki? What? Edited January 6, 2012 by Sakaku
gli Posted January 6, 2012 Author Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rachel_Alucard_%28BBCS2%29 As far as I know, I'm the only one that has worked on the Rachel wiki (which was mid-December). Move descriptions were taken from Polka's write-up from the tutorial thread. Zawa's Rachel background info was used for the introduction section. All of the appropriate images for moves I had individually uploaded and had to make sure they were all facing the same direction (1P side). All of the attack data was also manually put into the tables by me. All that's left is the last section on the page. If you or anyone you know would be willing to work on the wiki, feel free to PM me or Tari. This is only the CS2 wiki anyway. Most of it will carry over into the EX wiki with minor changes to reflect EX Rachel. Edited January 6, 2012 by glirandly
tofurr Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Well, when you transition over to Extend, you can just use Sakaku's combo video for the 'Combo' section of the wiki. There's lots of good stuff there. That would just leave writing up a little bit about her defense and offense.
[SpA]Relentless Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I know posting this is asking for trouble but what do you guys think of this? I mean they hardly changed Rachel...the nurfs are not that significant and yet she is down to "just B tier", it really makes me wonder just how much stronger they made everyone else. If you think about it, all the characters that were at a disadvantage against Rachel got better, while the characters that had an advantage over her are basically unchanged (so they are still bad). Plus Rachel lost some of her damage and this does have an impact. Even if it's just 300-500dmg per combo, it basically means we have to hit our opponent one more time. That doesn't mean we'll lose every match because of this, but every other game we would've won with CS2 damage will be lost because of that nerf. Rachel also doesn't really have as many top players pushing her as other chars. B Tier seems about right to me. Though it doesn't really matter because tiers in BB are pretty close to each other.
tofurr Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) What do you guys think Rachel's match-up numbers were in CS2? Personally I felt it was like this: Ragna: 5/5 | Jin: 4.5/5.5 Noel: 5/5 | Carl: 4.5/5.5 Bang: 5/5 | Arakune: 5.5/4.5 Hakumen: 4.5/5.5 | Tsubaki: 5/5 Hazama: 4/6 | Lambda: 4/6 Tager: 6/4 | Litchi: 4/6 Taokaka: 4.5/5.5 | Mu: 4.5/5.5 Makoto: 4.5/5.5 | Platinum: 5.5/4.5 Valkenhayn: 5/5 | Rachel: -10/20 Alot of them I feel can either go even or in the other characters favor, slightly. Edited January 7, 2012 by tofurr
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