7thFonon Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 I wouldn't mind joining the room. But I can't say that playing against people who also don't know what they're doing is gonna help you improve... but still sounds like a fun idea.
Zero Shift Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Kurushii, remind me again when your rooms are open? And what room name should I look out for? I'd like to test my netplay connection speed, and I'd rather do that with people I know than randoms who might bitch at my fail connection if it indeed fails.
Kurushii Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 I wouldn't mind joining the room. But I can't say that playing against people who also don't know what they're doing is gonna help you improve... but still sounds like a fun idea. Even if the person isn't that good you can still practice: Hit ConfirmsBlockstrings (somewhat)CombosProper Teching (Throw and Wakeup)NeutralPressureComfortable playing on stream with others watching you I played more games with Jyosua than anyone else for EX JP. Even though he didn't get comfortable on his pressure game he improved on combos and hitconfirms. For me my frame traps, mixups, crossups, and combo execution went through the roof compared to how I was in CS2 skill level because I was able to practice it against a live target. For me now Im taking all that against the top players and improving my blocking, punishing, exc. @Than I have a thread stickied in the online section with all the info.
Azure Dragonius Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 If that scrub room doesn't start up too late, I'd certainly join in. I can usually play at any time before 7 or so, but it depends on when my brother gets home. The PS3's his, as I've noted before, and he doesn't like me being in his room. It'd work best on weekends, of course.
7thFonon Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 What I mean is that it will still teach bad habits. Especially when you develop tactics that only work on people that don't know any better. Even if the person isn't that good you can still practice: Comfortable playing on stream with others watching you lol. Til you show to a major in-person, and not know how to handle it. :P
Kurushii Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 What I mean is that it will still teach bad habits. Especially when you develop tactics that only work on people that don't know any better. lol. Til you show to a major in-person, and not know how to handle it. :P You should have enough common sense to not develop stupid habits. That's why you should work in Hell Arcade Mode runs into your training. Playing on stream helped me for losing nerves. I didn't have any going to my first tournament. I just lost to a 4D masher and Florida's best Litchi who I had 0 experience with prior.
AlxIce Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 You should have enough common sense to not develop stupid habits. That's why you should work in Hell Arcade Mode runs into your training. Playing on stream helped me for losing nerves. I didn't have any going to my first tournament. I just lost to a 4D masher and Florida's best Litchi who I had 0 experience with prior. Cary blown up
Jyosua Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Even if the person isn't that good you can still practice: Hit ConfirmsBlockstrings (somewhat)CombosProper Teching (Throw and Wakeup)NeutralPressureComfortable playing on stream with others watching you I played more games with Jyosua than anyone else for EX JP. Even though he didn't get comfortable on his pressure game he improved on combos and hitconfirms. For me my frame traps, mixups, crossups, and combo execution went through the roof compared to how I was in CS2 skill level because I was able to practice it against a live target. For me now Im taking all that against the top players and improving my blocking, punishing, exc. @Than I have a thread stickied in the online section with all the info. Pretty much this. I never got comfortable with my pressure as Jin because his normals don't allow for continuous pressure from the get-go. You have to condition opponents and unless you get enough swings at offense to do so, you won't be doing shit for conditioning. I have to work at being fast and efficient on my strings to prevent someone from mashing and break through a solid defense. If that scrub room doesn't start up too late, I'd certainly join in. I can usually play at any time before 7 or so, but it depends on when my brother gets home. The PS3's his, as I've noted before, and he doesn't like me being in his room. It'd work best on weekends, of course. Not sure what times I'll be running said stream. I'd like to avoid running it at the same time as Kuru's stream, but I'm not sure how viable an early evening room is. I'll give it some though and pick a time soon-ish. What I mean is that it will still teach bad habits. Especially when you develop tactics that only work on people that don't know any better. lol. Til you show to a major in-person, and not know how to handle it. :P If you know well enough not to exploit noobies making mistakes, you won't develop bad habits. If you play against people better than you all the time, its A) Infuriating and B) you often won't get a chance to practice pressure or other things, because as soon as you make a small mistake, BAM you're punished with a 4k+ combo. You should have enough common sense to not develop stupid habits. That's why you should work in Hell Arcade Mode runs into your training. Playing on stream helped me for losing nerves. I didn't have any going to my first tournament. I just lost to a 4D masher and Florida's best Litchi who I had 0 experience with prior. I didn't realize that was your first tournament. XD I don't have nerves playing in front of other people. I know I'm bad, so if I screw up it's no different than usual. If I do really well and win, I'm super-happy and try to understand what allowed me to win.
Kurushii Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Yep, from dealing with customer service daily, communicating with tons of players daily, and streaming often I just didn't get nervous. I can understand how some people can get it though. Like Jourdal was nervous playing on my stream a few nights ago he told me.
7thFonon Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 You should have enough common sense to not develop stupid habits. That's why you should work in Hell Arcade Mode runs into your training. Playing on stream helped me for losing nerves. I didn't have any going to my first tournament. I just lost to a 4D masher and Florida's best Litchi who I had 0 experience with prior. I also started out playing online too, and did very well in my first tournament ever (4th place)... but know what I know now, online is pretty bad for players and a competitive FG scene as a whole IMO. (for the reasons I mentioned, plus other reasons). But I guess I'm just from a completely different scene with a completely different outlook on this stuff, and I'm not gonna sit here and tell you guys that you're wrong for doing your own thing. Anyways, I'll still be playing with you guys if you decide to make that lobby. Hit me up if you do.
Kurushii Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 With players who are netplay warriors in the different fg's taking top 8 in majors you can't shun netplay. Wolfkrone is all netplay and he bodies NA in SF, LK and other BB players do a lot of netplay and take majors. Offline play is good but you shouldn't limit yourself to just that as you aren't learning enough matchups and different playstyle varieties.
Jyosua Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 I also started out playing online too, and did very well in my first tournament ever (4th place)... but know what I know now, online is pretty bad for players and a competitive FG scene as a whole IMO. (for the reasons I mentioned, plus other reasons). But I guess I'm just from a completely different scene with a completely different outlook on this stuff, and I'm not gonna sit here and tell you guys that you're wrong for doing your own thing. Anyways, I'll still be playing with you guys if you decide to make that lobby. Hit me up if you do. That's a different argument entirely. There is no replacement for playing games offline in-person. And yeah, having shit online means people don't show up to tournaments and casuals. It is detrimental, and I'd argue that since BB was built online, it's part of the reason tournament turnout is so shitty. However, netplay is a great supplement and for people like me who live a decent ways away from anyone I could play IRL, it's the next best option. That said, it's good for learning matchups and everyday practicing when doing some IRL every day is out of the question.
Romeyurhomey Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 My internet is ass so until I run a 60ft ethnernet wire, I might have to holdout on netplay. So casuals gettogether before Final Round Saturday?
7thFonon Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) edit : actually, forget it. I'm not like I'm a part of you guys' scene, so it's you guys business how you play. get that netplay. Edited February 22, 2012 by 7thFonon
HIGEKING42 Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Don't say that. You probably don't live far away from any of us. If you look hard you would find what your looking for.
Kurushii Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Don't say that. You probably don't live far away from any of us. If you look hard you would find what your looking for. Why you edit your post? I saw the original. I don't care if you like me. You acted dumb and spammed the forum. I told you to stop, you mocked me and continued. I gave you a infraction. You continued so I gave you enough infractions for a temp ban so you'd stop. You insulted the scene and talked shit on the Surge stream chat. So really dude you can ead cause you aren't bringing anything to help the community offline or online.
pktazn Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Same. But a large part of me doesn't really seem to care. My internet is ass so until I run a 60ft ethnernet wire, I might have to holdout on netplay. So casuals gettogether before Final Round Saturday? Yea all my connections so far have been really shitty, even with people I used to have pretty good connections with so I feel like I'm dumbing down Casuals yes plz~ Edit: wow did I really just put "dumbing down". Herp derp. Oh well can't take it back. I ment it as not playing my best. Edited February 22, 2012 by pktazn
Romeyurhomey Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Really? ya'll, this is ridiculous calm it down. Well Casuals will be held at my place saturday eh around 3?
Setsuna Posted February 22, 2012 Author Posted February 22, 2012 Trying to catch myself up I just lost to a 4D masher and Florida's best Litchi who I had 0 experience with prior. I quit ... I'm not playing in anymore tournaments ... fuck this game
Kurushii Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 I quit ... I'm not playing in anymore tournaments ... fuck this game <3 Dude you were getting good for a minute not abusing it but when I got you on stream you were spamming it everywhere. The opponent whiffed standing normals from far away and you were reacting with whiff 4D's. People started counting it in chat. Don't quit just fix your habit. :/
2link121 Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 @Azure Now is that sarcasm or were you really hurt by Kuru's comment? lol. You really shouldn't let little things like that get to ya if the latter.
pktazn Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Considering he's (Azure) explained why he's felt like quitting before, I'm not surprised by his comment and equally wouldn't be surprised if he was being serious. @Azure: I had fun playing against you at Winterfest Really? ya'll, this is ridiculous calm it down. Well Casuals will be held at my place saturday eh around 3? I know right? I'm down. Can't wait to see you guys again ;_______;
Guardian Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 I'll be there Romey. Most likely with a hangover, but i'll be there (after I leave lab). yay pk is coming back!!! Kyle/Romey u guys missed Kyle yesterday; we were playing hella BB. That Ragna/Relius matchup is so, so depressing. Maybe 6.5-3.5. Arksys plz buff Relius kthxbi
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