Official UK/GB Area Thread

[Kujikawa]

I found most battles to be really boring. It felt like the challenge was sometimes there, but they never really threw anything really surprising or different at you, just the same fight over and over. Wasn't too fond of the art style either, that stuff was just a clusterfuck. I'm not sure if there's any differences between the PSP and GBA version though, so maybe that's where I messed up. Blaze Union looked alot better though, but I don't think that's avaliable in English at all?

Wait... which version did you play?

Blaze is jp only still, so is Gloria and Unison.

http://www.lltvg.com/wiki/Blaze_Union/ja-en

only up to tut6.

Edited August 30, 2012 by Kujikawa

[Darret_Wallace]

just play terranigma via emulator, i have illusion of gaia, shame my snes broke after a day.

[-Seo]

Wait... which version did you play?

Blaze is jp only still, so is Gloria and Unison.

http://www.lltvg.com/wiki/Blaze_Union/ja-en

only up to tut6.

PSP version. I could proabably play Blaze Union and get the jist of it anyway, would probably help with my Japanese too.

[Kujikawa]

just play terranigma via emulator, i have illusion of gaia, shame my snes broke after a day.

Not a fan of Emulation, but I always turn to it anyway... =(

I'll give it a try -- looks good.

EDIT:

Enough talking about shitty RPGs cuz' LOOK WHAT JUST CAME OUT!! :O :O

Edited August 30, 2012 by Kujikawa

[Kiba]

I'll get in on this hatefest fun too.

BB: Ragna (It use to be because of his damage output, but now it's because he's becoming as stale as Ryu)

BB: Ragna - EZ Mode Death Machine that is just so bland to fight against

BB: Ragna.

....

Refraining from insulting. This thread I swear....

[Chazmobile]

....

Refraining from insulting. This thread I swear....

Aw come on Daniel, I wanna see this.

On a different note, I assume you've played some more P4U recently? I want to see new and improved Kiba Liz, my body is ready and so is my Yosuke B+D. I also need to show my Labrys, it's the only way I improve I swear....

[Kriegdrache]

FUCK YOU CHAZ

FUCK YOUUUUUU

Also, Game still has the date as Aug 31st. Fuck placeholders.

Wait no, they got it as sept 7th now.

[YukiBlue]

I got Sept 19th.

Inb4 they release its next week and are like "HOLY SHIT GUYS WE SAVED YOU ALL NOW TREAT US LIKE GODS"

[Chazmobile]

Amazon still has it as the 31st of August. It would be jokes if we're able to order it tomorrow.

[Darret_Wallace]

i still have tomorrow.

I've decided to pick up Relius cos he's mad fun.

[Fistmaster049]

it would be funny if Amazon had a secret stash of the game this whole time

also I thought Game said the 9th?

[Chazmobile]

I've decided to pick up Relius cos he's mad fun.

That's what I like to hear, just for that i'll try out a bit of Arakune. Be warned though, it's not fun having only like, two good normals and a good few sub-par>useless moves.

At least he's got mad swag.

it would be funny if Amazon had a secret stash of the game this whole time

This is why i'm hoping for that 'order' button tomorrow. I'm running on desperate hope.

[Fistmaster049]

I had a bit of interest in Relius personally when the game first came out but I could never get the hang of his corner combos

man I have no luck when it comes to subs lol

[Kiba]

Aw come on Daniel, I wanna see this.

On a different note, I assume you've played some more P4U recently? I want to see new and improved Kiba Liz, my body is ready and so is my Yosuke B+D. I also need to show my Labrys, it's the only way I improve I swear....

It's like, Ragna is cheap, but then there's Valk and Arakune. Doesn't make sense to me, end of. He's cheap because he's stale? Come off that.

I haven't played much P4.

[Darret_Wallace]

his corner combo's look fairly easy to me, it's his mid-screen stuff that looks tricky.

[Chazmobile]

I haven't played much P4.

I may have a way to remedy this. Doyin said that once he's done with the Aigis tutorial he's making he's gonna lend the Xbox to me for a bit so you and David can come over anytime if you want some games.

Until then though, we are lost.

his corner combo's look fairly easy to me, it's his mid-screen stuff that looks tricky.

Believe me, Relius' execution barrier is pretty low, his combos anywhere are rather simple. You're mainly just going to learn how to hit 6d between other button presses/airdashes midscreen and how to TK J.236c after 6b in the corner.

The difficult thing about learning Relius is managing Ignis, learning how to open people up and optimise combos on the fly depending on how much Ignis gauge you have left; among other things of course.

Edited August 31, 2012 by Chazmobile

[Fistmaster049]

his corner combo's look fairly easy to me, it's his mid-screen stuff that looks tricky.

Granted they aren't as funky as Jin's corner combos now but I just never could really get the hang of them lol

It's like, Ragna is cheap, but then there's Valk and Arakune. Doesn't make sense to me, end of. He's cheap because he's stale? Come off that..

Thats my thoughts on Ragna really, its more people are bored of seeing him

[Darret_Wallace]

i can never do any of that stuff after jd with jin.

[EXonestar]

I run Tetris at 1080p, get fucked.

I can always trust this guy to me make me Lol ....on this thread xD

[Kujikawa]

That's what I like to hear, just for that i'll try out a bit of Arakune. .

Chaz...

What are you saying? You despise that squiggly piece of trash.

It's like, Ragna is cheap, but then there's Valk and Arakune.

It's the fact that he takes no brain to play at all. He is strong in all points.

At least Valkenhayn, Arakune take some good effort and each have their own weaknesses (And bad match-ups).

The difficult thing about learning Relius is managing Ignis, learning how to open people up and optimise combos on the fly depending on how much Ignis gauge you have left; among other things of course.

You should of done a Relius tutorial dude. Or a Brosuke one.

i can never do any of that stuff after jd with jin.

Ermmm Ice Car?

Or do you mean the air dash stuff?

Edited August 31, 2012 by Kujikawa

[Kiba]

It's the fact that he takes no brain to play at all. He is strong in all points.

At least Valkenhayn, Arakune take some good effort and each have their own weaknesses (And bad match-ups).

I believe you are mixing up cheap with annoying, though you seem to also be suggesting that he is brain dead.

Arakune has the chance to turn the tide with curse and his death combos. Even if he doesn't kill, he has combos which can put you back in curse again. You have to block during curse mode which increases his chances of winning because of the kind of mixup he posesses.

Valkenhayn has amazing (understatement) corner carry and can attain at least 4K of most of his normals in the corner. His 6C is + on block and leads into 5k meterlessly, and he has very good pressure and mixup. Wolf mixup/pressure is also quite obnoxious.

Ragna has more bad MUs than Valkenhayn. Ragna has bad MUs against: Litchi, Mu, Lambda, Jin, Rachel, Relius. Those are just a few and you're forgetting that Ragna does particularly worse against these type of characters with more range because it's difficult to get in. Ragna isn't so brain dead that I could pick him up and win in a tournament. It's more than that, and I hope you can realise this because this is getting redundant.

[Chazmobile]

I believe you are mixing up cheap with annoying, though you seem to also be suggesting that he is brain dead.

Arakune has the chance to turn the tide with curse and his death combos. Even if he doesn't kill, he has combos which can put you back in curse again. You have to block during curse mode which increases his chances of winning because of the kind of mixup he posesses.

Valkenhayn has amazing (understatement) corner carry and can attain at least 4K of most of his normals in the corner. His 6C is + on block and leads into 5k meterlessly, and he has very good pressure and mixup. Wolf mixup/pressure is also quite obnoxious.

Ragna has more bad MUs than Valkenhayn. Ragna has bad MUs against: Litchi, Mu, Lambda, Jin, Rachel, Relius. Those are just a few and you're forgetting that Ragna does particularly worse against these type of characters with more range because it's difficult to get in. Ragna isn't so brain dead that I could pick him up and win in a tournament. It's more than that, and I hope you can realise this because this is getting redundant.

Sorry Daniel, gonna have to disagree here. Relius v Ragna is easily in Ragna's favour and he's simply better than Jin in every aspect.

But I agree with everything else

[Kiba]

Can't say I didn't see that coming.

[Kujikawa]

I believe you are mixing up cheap with annoying, though you seem to also be suggesting that he is brain dead.

Arakune has the chance to turn the tide with curse and his death combos. Even if he doesn't kill, he has combos which can put you back in curse again. You have to block during curse mode which increases his chances of winning because of the kind of mixup he posesses.

Valkenhayn has amazing (understatement) corner carry and can attain at least 4K of most of his normals in the corner. His 6C is + on block and leads into 5k meterlessly, and he has very good pressure and mixup. Wolf mixup/pressure is also quite obnoxious.

Ragna has more bad MUs than Valkenhayn. Ragna has bad MUs against: Litchi, Mu, Lambda, Jin, Rachel, Relius. Those are just a few and you're forgetting that Ragna does particularly worse against these type of characters with more range because it's difficult to get in. Ragna isn't so brain dead that I could pick him up and win in a tournament. It's more than that, and I hope you can realise this because this is getting redundant.

In my head, cheap and annoying is kinda' the same thing.

Ragna is a an easy character to pick up, as well as being one of the best. That's my definition of a cheap character.

Jin is not a bad match-up for Ragna, either Relius. The rest is debatable by all means.

I'm not saying that Ragna is the best character in the game. I'm saying that his skill barrier is lower then the cast, he has the tools for everything except... say... projectiles, but yet he still has some options to get in over zoners. Great Air-Normals, Great Pokes, Good Anti-Air, Good DP, Good Damage, Good Pressure, decent health (health recovery), decent mix-ups. Most characters including Valk and Arakune don't have the best tools for everything, but excel in some areas.

All-Around strong, jack-of-all-trades type character (Think CS2 Jin).

I can assure you that you will do a lot better if you picked Ragna rather then if you picked Arakune, Hakumen or even Taokaka.

Saying that picking him up then just winning a tournament is unrealistic.

This is also more directed at casual netplay, not tournament play.

[-Kid]

So lyk..it takes no brain to use Ragna?

But you see, there Is a difference between scrubby Ragna's and mine. I don't know what gives people the impression that we don't need to think whilst using Ragna, there is so much more to him than just letting loose on 5B and ID. Fair enough he is easy to use blah blah blah, but he isn't cheap. I'm sorry symm..but your definition of cheap is kinda stupid. If you say that annoying and cheap are similar, then I guess it's safe to assume that the whole cast of BB is cheap, since everyone is annoying in their own way.

Tager is annoying, but he isn't cheap. Tao is annoying, but she's not cheap. Your definition of cheap may need reviewing.

Now..half you whelps that seem to complain about Ragna, don't seem to know the first thing about him, I'll enlighten you all.

1. Ragna is not better than Jin in every way. The match up is hard to put figures on, but it seems more in jin's favour. He has better field control. Damage is not the only factor that determines a match up. Most of you have the stupid mentallity that "Oh, Ragna does more damage than this character, do it must be in ragna's favour". So much BS.

2. Ragna's mix-up is not "decent", it fucking sucks. He is like one of the worst characters in that respect.

3. Ragna's pressure has many holes in it. Most of you say it's good, because you lack the knowledge of when to disrespect and poke him out.

It's funny how most of you think you know the first thing about Ragna, when you don't even use him. Yeah he has decent pokes, I agree, but there are

Much "cheaper" characters in the game like valk, who gets you in the corner with any hit, good heat gain, beastly mix up, and good damage. Now, if Ragna is so cheap..what does that make valk?

Most of the time you guys complain about Ragna, it's just salt..from having lost to one or just hatred. Know what you are talking about when it comes to Ragna in the future, because I will challenge any and every comment you make about him.

This talk about Ragna IS getting redundant, it's getting annoying

Edited August 31, 2012 by -Kid