Yggjrasil Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 That's really interesting actually, is it the same for Nirvana? I'm pretty sure. If Haku can void it, Plat can hop through it.
Kujikawa Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Invite Me =O ! (when the time comes xD) Sure! Just let me add *Not Yet*... oh wait... =P
EXonestar Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Sure! Just let me add *Not Yet*... oh wait... =P >;D !!!!!!!
Chazmobile Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 From what your saying, Relius shouldn't be A at all. No, like Seo said, he should be just above Tsubaki in B tier. He's too flawed as a character to be in any form of A tier.
Kujikawa Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 I am sorta' interested what they'll do to him next game. Buff his overhead, sort his hitboxes, etc.
-Seo Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 I don't really know Relius all that well, but I assume a buff in Ignis' life would be a helping hand.
Chazmobile Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 My thoughts shamelessly copypasted from the wish list thread: I've been thinking of a few changes that Arcsys could make to Relius which would make him a stronger character overall but still in line with the rest of the cast. It's clear that Arcsys designed him to become a very strong character with Ignis active, yet sub-par without Ignis with an emphasis more on zoning the opponent in order to safely summon her. With this in mind, here are a few ideas to help complement this reliance on Ignis: -Speed up his overhead to 18-20 frames but make him only be able to get a reward off of it with Ignis out, or if he spends 50 meter without Ignis. -Give him a command grab which can be followed up with Ignis out, but requires 50 meter otherwise. -Only make Ignis go into slow regen if she herself is hit, at the moment it seems as though she goes into slow regen if Relius is even breathed on. This coupled with her low life means that Relius is left without Ignis for a lot of the match, and that he has to sacrifice damage and pressure in order to keep her alive a lot of the time. Some more Ignis life would be nice too. -Make his 2c a good anti-air, everyone wants this. Possibly some small hitbox adjustments on some other normals like 6b. -Speed up 2a to 6 frames, this would help him in getting out of pressure without Ignis because at the moments he's pretty free without 50 meter to CA. These are just some thoughts I had today that would help make Relius with Ignis active the offensive God that Arcsys seemed to want him to be, but a Relius without Ignis to be hindered, yet still able to somewhat hold his own. Also, GGs today Seo, really nice Ragz you've got there. Imma add you for more games in the future if that's ok?
-Seo Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Sure thing, and GGs to you too, Relius is alot of fun to watch. Any lag was from my end, internet was really choppy this afternoon for some reason :c
Chazmobile Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 That is actually pretty funny, Hazama is one of Bang's only bad matchups in CSE IIRC. The rest are good/even though so it's coo'. Bang's so good in this game, remind me why I dropped him for Relius. Oh yeah because Relius is fucking amazing and my main man
EXonestar Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 That is actually pretty funny, Hazama is one of Bang's only bad matchups in CSE IIRC. The rest are good/even though so it's coo'. Bang's so good in this game, remind me why I dropped him for Relius. Oh yeah because Relius is fucking amazing and my main man HE'S NOT MANLY ENOUGH !!!!!!!!!!
Darret_Wallace Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 More proof that arakune is the best. Also where are you getting these match-ups from?
Chazmobile Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 Oh me? I played Bang since CT all through up to CSE so I have a bit of a grasp on what's good and what's bad, as i'm sure you do with Arakune. For Relius we actually have a matchup chart, which, whilst a few match ups do need to be changed a bit, is mostly accurate, so I take it from there. HE'S NOT MANLY ENOUGH !!!!!!!!!! Hey man, Relius gets bitches, he doesn't even need manliness when he's got such unbelievable levels of class/swag.
Darret_Wallace Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 i used arakune since cs1, i used noel during ct because i though spamming dabcdabcdabc made me good. I can actually do most things with arakune but can't apply them in matches, and know nothing of how to approach specific match ups.
Kriegdrache Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 Should play me sometime, I need that gay ass matchup exp anyway. Online Kunes </3
YukiBlue Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 Carl's mixup is so fucking good haha. CON setups are flat out ridiculous.
Darret_Wallace Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 Should play me sometime, I need that gay ass matchup exp anyway. Online Kunes </3 add my psn, i'll be on tomorrow probably
Chazmobile Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 5b5b>Ignis>5b6d5b6d5b6d5b6d>desummon Did they get hit? No> Keep going Yes> Combo time ;D Dat flow chart
Fistmaster049 Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 God its too hot to be playing BB today, its one of "those" days lol hey random possible convo starter but has anyone had just one of those days where they just can't play for shit? dropping combos and such that your really shouldn't and letting the salt flow lol
Chazmobile Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 Yeah dude it happens from time to time, I just turn off BB and go have a nap or something, when I come back i'm usually back to tip top shape. Then i'm all:
Fistmaster049 Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 yeah taking about an hour or so break usually solves it for me too or at least getting a cold drink, calms the nerves lol
YukiBlue Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 A Pint of water and some skittles fixes any shit day I have, which is pretty much every other day. ALSO. BIG NEWS I have a revised Greggs Tier list due to the nicest lunch ever. S Tier: Chicken Bake, Steak Bake A Tier: Corned Beef Pasty, Sausage and bean melt B Tier: Sausage Rolls, Cornish Pasties, Savoury Mince Pies C tier: Cheese and Onion pasties, Bacon and Cheese wraps Why Waste Your Money Tier: The Spicy one, COLD PASTIES Fucking Bollocks Tier: Any pasty when its COLD and you have NO MICROWAVE
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