Herbal Grey Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) rachel mirrors are simple. you wait for the opponent to summon something then punish them with winded dash. fighting a lobelia war is frustrating, so i let them win that war and save my wind for the real damage during rushdown. also, running away is a good option in this matchup...there's not a whole lot rachel can do if you just super jump backwards in the air if they're trying to do the whole lobelia spam then rush-down with pumpkin routine Edited February 22, 2012 by Herbal Grey
[SpA]Relentless Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Except if you let them win a lobelia war, they'll get a free summon :9
Herbal Grey Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) the point of my strategy is if they try to summon after winning the lobelia war, then i punish the summon point: trying to win a zoning war is typically a guessing game...punishing the other person for guessing wrong is a science Edited February 22, 2012 by Herbal Grey
[SpA]Relentless Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) If you block a lobelia from long range, you can't punish their summon. It's way too + on block. Alternatively they can use TK iris to lock you into blockstun from across the screen. Free summon as well. They'll have plenty of rods if you let them win a projectile war. Zoning shouldn't be a guessing game, you should be reacting to what your opponent is doing. Edited February 22, 2012 by [SpA]Relentless
Herbal Grey Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 if they throw a lobelia from long range, winded dash, don't block. there's plenty of time to react to a c-lobelia
kirbster Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 I could ask you the same question, you know. Good point, lol. Everytime I get CH 6a'd, I'm like "so that's how it feels"....... this move is bullshit xD
Herbal Grey Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 lol, rachel's anti-air is awesome, especially now that it has head invuln. but it still loses to air summon pumpkin 2d hehe. once they get hit by that a couple times, they'll probably try to start trying to j.c counter hit (or air grab) you though, and that's painful
Sakaku Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Ah yeah, 6A. I played against a Haku today, he was still able to hit me with his j.2C most of the time. It's easy against Valk now, but very hard against Haku.
kirbster Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 What I tell my friends my train of thought is when I beat them :
swordiris Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Ok, so I'm going on ranked and making it to where I only fight people stronger than me. How long will it take until I get better?
Chazmobile Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Ok, so I'm going on ranked and making it to where I only fight people stronger than me. How long will it take until I get better? When you stop netplaying
swordiris Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Not really any other way for me to play here in the valley (no tournies) My connection is really good but I'm about average, I want to be a pro.
Chazmobile Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Not really any other way for me to play here in the valley (no tournies) My connection is really good but I'm about average, I want to be a pro. Don't worry man I was just kidding. Try and find some really solid people online that you have a good connection with, add them and play against them regularly. If you find something you're having trouble winning against, watch your replays and see where you went wrong and learn from those mistakes. Watching japanese and other high level play also helps with improving one's game.
swordiris Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 I also am not good at using pumpkin as much as I should. Any tips?
gli Posted February 22, 2012 Author Posted February 22, 2012 Come to San Antonio and play with the small community I'm trying to get together again :V
Sakaku Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Reading kro_'s CT Rachel guide, if you haven't already, is one thing every Rachel player should do imo. http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?7488-Rachel-Alucard-Guide-Not-Getting-Enough-Hate Combos and such are outdated for obvious reasons, but the zoning tips section is really helpful.
tofurr Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 I should re-read that. Haven't gone through it since CT.
Herbal Grey Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 watching vids is how i learned the game, lol. matsu my teacher. kure hane and aoniku my inspirations to learn rachel. side note...gli, the psr battle has begun. i reached 810 i think lol
gli Posted February 23, 2012 Author Posted February 23, 2012 I stopped ranked grinding already lol. Try to beat that Vita-8 guy.
Herbal Grey Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 i should pass vita in about 10 more matches so.... ^_^ lol, they managed to make psr even less significant in this game than it was in the last also, no one good plays ranked...like ppl probs think i'm rq'ing to get 100% wins, but there are no good players on it. there's no reason to rq anyway, because your psr barely goes down when you lose
kro_ Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 So regarding: lv2 j.2c j.214a 1d 5cc About 1/4 the time the dummy tends to slide past the frog, activate it, but not get hit. Has anyone found a way to get that part 100% of the time? I've tried doing the combo quickly (to prevent the frog from moving too much) and slowly (to let the frog move closer before hitting 5cc), but I can't get the frog to catch the opponent consistently. Reading kro_'s CT Rachel guide, if you haven't already, is one thing every Rachel player should do imo. http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?7488-Rachel-Alucard-Guide-Not-Getting-Enough-Hate Combos and such are outdated for obvious reasons, but the zoning tips section is really helpful. It's hard to believe I used to care so much about getting good at this game. Every time I see new footage and feel like practicing hardcore again I prioritize sleep shortly after and then forget about it the next day. I guess I really have to be active in the tournament scene or have dedicated practice partners to keep up that motivation.
Herbal Grey Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) i'm pretty sure that happens because you're hitting them with 5cc when they're too high off the ground. try making sure they are lower to the ground before 5cc'ing them and yeah, it doesn't take watching a video for me...it's every time i screw up my proration on my combo enders, so the opponent techs and i get ... 720'd...that inspires me to go to training mode to remind myself of how to play this game. update: i am the best rachel psn. vita got nothin on me -_- Edited February 23, 2012 by Herbal Grey
swordiris Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Thanks for that zoning guide, It was really helpful. I'm having issues with the new j.2C cancel as well. When i see pro rachels land it, it registers as a level 2 but when I do it it registers as a level 1. Is there any trick to the input?
mMarikom Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 jump cancel with 9 instead of 8. I was only hitting like a third of my j2c's before because I jump canceled with 8 almost all the time. Now that I do it with 9 I pretty much don't miss them unless I'm derping
swordiris Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Ok I just had an arakune rage quit at the results screen. his name is The_King_Slime His PSR rank was about 400 and mine is 111. I beat him and he rage quit. I'm shaking I'm so pissed. I was putting the options on only fighting those stronger than me and lossed like a million times to get this hard fought win. A hard fought win that was robbed from under my belt. I wish we had a rage quit thread to report these losers.
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