mAc Chaos Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 ggs to umbrage86, MainG_Jago, and Loli_Pop_Star. I recently can't stop mashing hard as Hakumen and I keep playing so sloppy with him. Want to play? I want to play your Haku or Tager. any replays saved? I wanna know what to do on wakeup. It was just the threat of that DP, I had to be careful. Between the DP and his Supers almost everything I do is a huge risk. I just have to be more aggressive next time.
Koopa_Klawz Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Want to play? I want to play your Haku or Tager. Guess I'll go for a few. PSN?
Nemesis Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 > quick set of games > turns into 9-9 FT10 GGs Nemesis, that was close. I could barely do any wakeup stuff on you at all. Argh. I was actually quite pleased with the blended energies I used... aside from dropped combos and misfired moves... it was... interesting... also what wake up stuff... you mean on MY wake up or YOUR wake up?
mAc Chaos Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Your wakeup. I couldn't hit you 90% of the time.
mAc Chaos Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I think I just had to get used to fighting Mu again. It requires a certain mindset. NO FEAR
someonewhodied Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I think I just had to get used to fighting Mu again. It requires a certain mindset. NO FEAR Throw yukikaze out once a while after 6A oki, that will condition him to not DP when you are at 4+ meter.
someonewhodied Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 whenever I make rooms for FT[X]s, I always have 4 spectator slots Its usually more fun with other people watching.
Nemesis Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Don't talk like you know what will condition me swd unless you can manage the kind of success
mAc Chaos Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 swd coughin up nemi's secrets GGs Koop, your friend list is maxed out. How many is the max on PSN anyway. I want to fight your Tager more. Getting in on that big fat giant and throwing the shit out of him is the reason I play this game.
mAc Chaos Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Same as XBL. Why even bother? There is no way it can only handle 100. I want my 1000 player long FL. Same with the # of replays you can have. Randomly only lets you have a small amount.
someonewhodied Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Don't talk like you know what will condition me swd unless you can manage the kind of success As soon as my hakumen reaches at least an actual sub's level, You bet I'll show success I just need to actually learn to play all these characters.
Lich Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I think I just had to get used to fighting Mu again. It requires a certain mindset. NO FEAR Actually the mind-set is all fear. You have to play really passive and tread very carefully not to get tagged because her normals/steins are hard to get around for most of the cast. And then if you get tagged once, especially if it's a random air hit. You take huge damage and get huge corner carry into oki.
mAc Chaos Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Then she will set up her steins and you will be crushed under a million lasers and never get to do anything. Once you back off it's over. You have to go all in after her all the time, like Arakune.
Lich Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Then she will set up her steins and you will be crushed under a million lasers and never get to do anything. Once you back off it's over. You have to go all in after her all the time, like Arakune. Uh no that's actually wrong. You want to be going in obviously and trying to close distance, but you can't just fucking yolo whatever. You have to be a lot more cautious especially as you get closer because her range is really good and her reward is HUGE off counter-hits. You have to approach the match-up like you would any zoner and wait for a whiff. It's just different because it's more about her zoning with normals rather than projectiles, although she has that too. If you play like 'no fear' you're going to die. At the same time the match-up varies for different characters of course. Hazama gets in pretty easily, but most characters without a get in free card, have to be really, really careful. Even Hazama if she keeps the game at a certain range, she can make it hard for Hazama to move.
someonewhodied Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 snip. Mu can keep cancelling steins and cause stein frametraps though. And 236As during blockstun to extend stein pressure. Not everyone plays hazama you know some of us can't instantly close distance.
Lich Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Mu can keep cancelling steins and cause stein frametraps though. And 236As during blockstun to extend stein pressure. Not everyone plays hazama you know some of us can't instantly close distance. First, we're talking about neutral game which is unrelated to being pressured. Second, read my previous post.
mAc Chaos Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Uh no that's actually wrong. You want to be going in obviously and trying to close distance, but you can't just fucking yolo whatever. You have to be a lot more cautious especially as you get closer because her range is really good and her reward is HUGE off counter-hits. You have to approach the match-up like you would any zoner and wait for a whiff. It's just different because it's more about her zoning with normals rather than projectiles, although she has that too. If you play like 'no fear' you're going to die. At the same time the match-up varies for different characters of course. Hazama gets in pretty easily, but most characters without a get in free card, have to be really, really careful. Even Hazama if she keeps the game at a certain range, she can make it hard for Hazama to move. How well do you do against Nemesis generally? I'm just curious since you use Hazama. Probably makes for a different experience. And I don't mean YOLO it, just that you can't let yourself get scared and be afraid to take a chance because then she will slip away. Otherwise I agree with what you're saying. But with characters like Hakumen against zoners like Mu and Lambda you can't afford to just sit there and take it nice and easy. Also I meant everything, not just neutral. My example was on oki after all.
Lich Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) How well do you do against Nemesis generally? I'm just curious since you use Hazama. Probably makes for a different experience. And I don't mean YOLO it, just that you can't let yourself get scared and be afraid to take a chance because then she will slip away. Otherwise I agree with what you're saying. But with characters like Hakumen against zoners like Mu and Lambda you can't afford to just sit there and take it nice and easy. Also I meant everything, not just neutral. My example was on oki after all. I have not played Nemesis in a long time, but I know the MU match-up and I've played it with both Hazama, Relius and Ragna. My ragna is ass though. lol I mean you can't just sit there and take no chances really against most characters, but when fighting MU the risk/reward generally is not in your favor when taking the risks so it is desirable to take much less; as opposed to fighting other characters such as lambda. Mu can kill you in one counter-hit into knockdown, into one mix-up. And her knockdown leads into really good oki. Of course you play Haku-men, so that doesn't apply to you. Well, your haku-men likes to play rps on every wake-up, but the character allows it, but if you mashed less I think you'd be a bit more successful. Although I'm not sure about haku-men vs. Mu. I just mean in general. Edited October 10, 2013 by Lich
Nemesis Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I know the MU match-up. Brkrdave thought he knew the match up too and every time I enter a room with you in it, you leave...
mAc Chaos Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 All I do is play against Mu all day, I know how she works. All I know is, I get way more success from my usual style rather than playing with more respect and fear. It just gives her an excuse to go HAM and perfect you. It's precisely because she gets so much damage off of her hits, that you have to push forward to keep her on defense. That is what I do, anyway, and it works for me. Technically Hazama is way more mashy. :P
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