zeth07 Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Rankings have been posted: https://sites.google.com/site/blazbluedanisen/rankings Thanks to everyone who participated and those who helped with rooms. Thanks to Psykotik for running the league for the West group. Match videos will be uploaded within the next few days. Congrats to howling-_-moon for becoming 5th Dan with his Rachel and currently the top ranked player. Next Danisen League Battle is tentatively scheduled for May 19th, around the same time frame. UPDATE: There will now be a "West" group as well, which will be ran by Psykotik. The start time for the "West" Danisen League will be 7 PM PST / 8 PM MST. The "West" group are the players within PST and MST. ***Please READ the Rules/Guidelines for all the necessary information*** https://sites.google.com/site/blazbluedanisen/home Start Time: (expected to last ~2 hours) "East" League (EST/CST) 7pm EST / 6pm CST "West" League (PST/MST) ***This will be ran by Psykotik*** 7pm PST / 8pm MST General Information: -Please try and be on early so I know who all is available and so I can friend request you. -Player Limit: 6-16, but really it is 15 as I will have to be in the chat room even if I'm not playing. -Rounds: 2 out of 3, in other words the default settings. Basic League Rules: -Everyone starts at Kyu. You can NOT go below Kyu, no matter how many matches you lose. Kyu is basically equal to 1st Dan 0. This is the "Beginner" rank. -Each match represents 1 point. -You must earn +3 points for a promotion. -3 points and you will be demoted, starting from 2nd Dan 0. -You may only use 1 character per night, unless told otherwise by me. -*Change from previous Danisen League*, you no longer have to pass if you sweep the room, only when you get a Promotion. -PLEASE read all the rules on the site, it is very important people understand how it works, and it is very simple to understand if you actually read it. Sign-Up Instructions: -Sign-ups begin immediately. -Please continue to sign-up even if spots are filled because there is a good chance someone won't be able to play at the last minute. -No alt accounts. If I find out someone is using an alt you will be banned from participating until further notice. It takes away from the point of this. -If you sign-up I fully expect you to be around when the time comes even if you aren't listed as within the first 16 people. People will drop and I need others to fill those spots. If you sign-up, think of it as you plan to play BlazBlue in some form that night anyway. -Please don't drop in the middle of the league, only sign-up if you actually want to PLAY. -If you are a returning player, you only have to post your PSN I.D. unless you are switching to a new character OR you've already used multiple characters in which case I need to know which one. -If you are a NEW player, you must post all your info like this: SIGN-UP FORMAT (You MUST use this format if you are a NEW player, NO exceptions, so just copy and paste) PSN I.D.: Character: State/Province*: Time Zone*: EXAMPLE: PSN I.D.: zeth07 Character: Bang State*: Maryland Time Zone*: EST Current Sign-ups: "EAST" (EST/CST) 1) howling-_-moon (RC) - NY/EST 2) Mikel93 (RE) - OK/CST 3) Moy_X7 (JI) - IN/EST 4) OmniSScythe (MA) - NY/EST 5) Ethereal_Albion (RG) - PA/EST 6) seph508 (TG) - NJ/EST 7) MirageKnight24 (HK) - ON/EST 8) godoftennis101 (RG) - NY/EST* 9) jeromejohnson44 (LI) - ON/EST 10) iw2ma (BA) - OK/CST 11) Akira-Shiro (?) - DC/EST 12) jason900 (RG) - AL/CST 13) Jyosua (JI) - FL/EST 14*) zeth07 (BA) - MD/EST 15) SwordOfToan (LA) – NY/EST 16) DontExplain (RG) – NC/EST "WEST" (PST/MST) 1) OniShirou (TK) - CA/PST 2) Psykotik94 (CA) - BC/PST 3) Sharakonta (HZ) - UT/MST 4) NorseFTX (TS) - CA/PST 5) CMSORA (JI) - CA/PST 6) I_SEE_WEABOOS (BA) - CA/PST 7) CosmicRaise (LI) - CO/MST 8) Acacia_Avenue77 (JI) - AZ/MST 9) BadguyTheDentist (BA) - CA/PST 10) brkrdave (AR) - CA/PST 11) Neo_Zeromus_X (MU) - AZ/MST 12) 13) 14) 15) 16) Special Notes: - Depending on how many people sign-up and who signs up, I may carry over the rankings from the previous Danisen League rankings, even as far back as CS but only whatever is the most recent for each player. -Depending on all of the above, I may choose to change the rules to be that you may play someone +/- 2 ranks of your own rank. But I will decide that at a later point. -If anyone on the WC wants to organize a group for the “West” players I will keep track of that information as well and include it with the rest but I will not be running it. It will be on you to make sure everything is accurate and ran correctly. -If anyone would like to stream or record matches please let me know. If you record matches, you may also upload them to the new BlazBlue Danisen League Youtube channel I have made if you want and if I know who you are / “trust” you. It's fine if you just want them on your own channel as well. If you have any questions, you can contact me here on Dustloop or on PSN: zeth07 or on Twitter @zeth07BB Please Read Everything Carefully UPDATE: There will now be a "West" group as well, which will be ran by Psykotik. The start time for the "West" Danisen League will be 7 PM PST / 8 PM MST. The "West" group are the players within PST and MST. Edited May 5, 2012 by zeth07
toanenadiz Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) PSN I.D.: SwordOfToan Character: Lambda State*: New York Time Zone*: EST Edit: After watching that video, I can no longer go with Taokaka. Gotta aim for the top Edited April 23, 2012 by toanenadiz
TD Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 PSN I.D.: howling-_-moon Character: Rachel State*: NY Time Zone*: EST i'll let you know if something comes up
Haven Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Nice, sounds like the perfect thing to do after my exams that day. PSN I.D.: HallowHaven Character: Jin State*: NY Time Zone*: EST Edited April 24, 2012 by Haven
OniShirou Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Oh yay it's back! This will prompt me to start playing again :D PSN I.D.: OniShirou Character: Taokaka State/Province*: CA Time Zone*: PST
zeth07 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Oh yay it's back! This will prompt me to start playing again :D PSN I.D.: OniShirou Character: Taokaka State/Province*: CA Time Zone*: PST UPDATE: There will now be a "West" group as well, which will be ran by Psykotik. The start time for the "West" Danisen League will be 7 PM PST / 8 PM MST. The "West" group are the players within PST and MST. Nice, sounds like the perfect thing to do after my exams that day. PSN I.D.: Haven Character: Jin State*: NY Time Zone*: EST Do you actually have a PSN account for "Haven"? Or was that just a typo and you meant HallowHaven? Just want to be sure so I put it down right. Edited April 24, 2012 by zeth07
toanenadiz Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Incidentally Zeth, I don't think you should carry over any of the previous rankings for any reason. Everyone should have a fresh start in a new game.
zeth07 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Posted April 24, 2012 Incidentally Zeth, I don't think you should carry over any of the previous rankings for any reason. Everyone should have a fresh start in a new game. Well my reasoning for even considering it was kind of twofold. 1) Certain players are obviously more skilled than others. So say they've already made it up to 5th Dan before, if they start over at 1st Dan the players who are actually 1st Dan "skill level" have to play them and there's a good chance they are going to lose. This could be discouraging to new players or just players within that skill level. It would be like they can't even get started or see where they really fit because the higher skilled players have to level up through them first just to get where they "belong". It's basically using already established data to carry over. 2) With the above in mind, the changes between characters in the different versions is probably negligible by comparison to player's skill level when considering the rankings. Chances are LK with CS1 Litchi is going to get to roughly the same rank as LK with Extend Litchi, even if she isn't as strong, mainly because LK is one of the top players. Whereas someone who is new or less skilled, if they suck with a top tier character they are still gonna suck with a low tier character. Basically the difference in skill level is more apparent in the rankings than character strength/differences when the players are people who regularly participate to reflect it. Now, my reasons for why I shouldn't do it: 1) As you said, Extend is a new version so a fresh start makes sense just with that in mind. 2) Depending on how many people sign-up and who signs up, if we go by old rankings people might not be able to use the characters they want from the start. By all means I'd like to hear more people's opinions about it. As it stands now we would be starting fresh just because it would be the easier thing to do.
MikelAL93 Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 PSN I.D.: Mikel93 Character: Relius State/Province*: OK Time Zone*: CST
zeth07 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) UPDATE: There will now be a "West" group as well, which will be ran by Psykotik. The start time for the "West" Danisen League will be 7 PM PST / 8 PM MST. The "West" group are the players within PST and MST. Edited April 24, 2012 by zeth07
Moy_X7 Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Moy_X7 I can't say I agree with the whole "... you no longer have to pass if you sweep the room, only when you get a Promotion" thing. There will most likely always be a player that is able to sweep the entire room and when that happens, the rest of the people have to be forced to play the same person over and over again as opposed to playing all the different players in the room. It's a good and a bad thing. It's good because that means that said player will get promoted faster, bad because of the aforementioned reasons. The real reason for me disliking that change is that I'm extremely impatient lol. Just my two cents. Not guaranteed that I'll make it but count me in.
Psykotik Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Add me on that list, Zeth PSN I.D.: Psykotik94 Character: Carl State/Province*: BC Time Zone*: PST To all WC players: To keep things simple, WC sessions will only happen on the same days Zeth runs his EC Danisen. I should add that it's unlikely that I'll be able to run every WC session so more WC co-organizers would be much appreciated. At the very least, tell me if you're interested in helping me run this and I'll take note of you.
toanenadiz Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 2) With the above in mind, the changes between characters in the different versions is probably negligible by comparison to player's skill level when considering the rankings. Chances are LK with CS1 Litchi is going to get to roughly the same rank as LK with Extend Litchi, even if she isn't as strong, mainly because LK is one of the top players. Whereas someone who is new or less skilled, if they suck with a top tier character they are still gonna suck with a low tier character. Basically the difference in skill level is more apparent in the rankings than character strength/differences when the players are people who regularly participate to reflect it. I would tend to disagree with point 2, particularly that character changes don't affect the rank much. I got many a wins off of low tier characters in CS1 and that's how both my Lambda and Tager were ranked so high. I personally wouldn't want my rank to transfer over since that was the case. Moy_X7 I can't say I agree with the whole "... you no longer have to pass if you sweep the room, only when you get a Promotion" thing. There will most likely always be a player that is able to sweep the entire room and when that happens, the rest of the people have to be forced to play the same person over and over again as opposed to playing all the different players in the room. It's a good and a bad thing. It's good because that means that said player will get promoted faster, bad because of the aforementioned reasons. The real reason for me disliking that change is that I'm extremely impatient lol. Just my two cents. Not guaranteed that I'll make it but count me in. Well, it can only happen a limited number of times. If they kept winning, they would rank up and have to leave the room. Ultimately, it makes it faster for the player who should be higher to get that high rank faster, which is good and prevent something like it happening in the future.
Moy_X7 Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 Well, it can only happen a limited number of times. If they kept winning, they would rank up and have to leave the room. Ultimately, it makes it faster for the player who should be higher to get that high rank faster, which is good and prevent something like it happening in the future. The thing is, if said player reaches the final available rank at the moment, then that player will keep on winning and playing and the other people will be forced to play that one player endlessly. Of course, it will be more difficult for said player to keep up the killing spree at the higher ranks but there's still a pretty good chance of that happening. Good and bad, makes it neutral, so it's not that bad. I personally don't like it though lol.
zeth07 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Moy_X7 I can't say I agree with the whole "... you no longer have to pass if you sweep the room, only when you get a Promotion" thing. There will most likely always be a player that is able to sweep the entire room and when that happens, the rest of the people have to be forced to play the same person over and over again as opposed to playing all the different players in the room. It's a good and a bad thing. It's good because that means that said player will get promoted faster, bad because of the aforementioned reasons. The real reason for me disliking that change is that I'm extremely impatient lol. Just my two cents. Not guaranteed that I'll make it but count me in. Well, it can only happen a limited number of times. If they kept winning, they would rank up and have to leave the room. Ultimately, it makes it faster for the player who should be higher to get that high rank faster, which is good and prevent something like it happening in the future. The way I looked at it was in the case that someone swept the room and DIDNT rank up, he would have to pass. Then next time he got his turn, let's say he is now at +2, if he wins again he would have to pass immediately after that 1 match, which is kind of stupid in itself since he just had to wait that whole time to get his turn again. Now that one could still happen regardless cause at some point someone is gonna start the night at +2 or maybe after the 1st rotation they'll be at +2, so it's really unavoidable anyway and just something people have to deal with. But the sweeping thing isn't really a factor because it isn't like the other players have to wait their turn to play any longer, it just means they don't get to play "others" a little more often. I'm trying to look at it for more simplicity, so I'm removing one more thing people have to worry about. All they need to know is if they rank up > they pass. This rule is only in place to effectively keep the rooms going before someone ranks up too high too quickly thus leaving only X number of players to play each other which we can't have if it is too low. I would tend to disagree with point 2, particularly that character changes don't affect the rank much. I got many a wins off of low tier characters in CS1 and that's how both my Lambda and Tager were ranked so high. I personally wouldn't want my rank to transfer over since that was the case. Well the other thing I think about is the fact that the player has to "hold" their ranking no matter the changes. So if someone got 5th Dan with an S tier character, and in the next version their character is garbage, they now have to prove it was their skill that got them there and not their S tier character. If their skill level with the lower tier character doesn't hold up, they'll fall in the rankings. At the same time someone who is now using an S tier character might rise in the rankings but it's still to be expected and would happen anyway in a new version if we just started fresh. I'm not saying character strength doesn't factor into it somewhat, I just think that player skill > character strength ratio is much more apparent. But this could all be a moot point anyway since I'm already leaning towards just starting fresh, it was just something I wanted to think about. The thing is, if said player reaches the final available rank at the moment, then that player will keep on winning and playing and the other people will be forced to play that one player endlessly. Of course, it will be more difficult for said player to keep up the killing spree at the higher ranks but there's still a pretty good chance of that happening. Good and bad, makes it neutral, so it's not that bad. I personally don't like it though lol. No, remember they must pass if they got promoted. Examples: Ex.1 Player A is 2nd Dan -1 and in a room of 4 with himself included (3 opponents). With the new change let's say he sweeps the room, so that's 2nd Dan +2. Now he doesn't pass, he plays 1 more and wins so 3rd Dan 0, he passes. Ex.2 Player A is 2nd Dan -1 (same as above). With the old way, he sweeps the room at 2nd Dan +2 now he must pass. Opponents play their matches. It gets back to him and he wins his next match, 3rd Dan 0, now he has to pass again after just 1 match ON TOP of having to pass for sweeping the room previously. Edited April 24, 2012 by zeth07
OmniSScythe Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 PSN I.D.: OmniSScythe Character: Makoto State*: NY Time Zone*: EST
Moy_X7 Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 That makes sense, it makes it fair for everyone with the single flaw of not getting to play different people as often if there is a sweeper in that particular room. Alright, carry on XD
Demon Wind Bomb Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 PSN I.D.: Demonwindbomb Character: Noel State*: FL Time Zone*: EST
Sharakonta Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 PSN I.D: Sharakonta Character: Hazama State: UT Time Zone: MST Hell ya it's back, most likely I'll be able to go.
Chris Chaos Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 I love how this thing starts on the "Cut Off" date for Sign-ups for the tourney I'm hosting, LOL! I have things to do that day but if that get's cancelled, I'll sign up later.
zeth07 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Posted April 24, 2012 I love how this thing starts on the "Cut Off" date for Sign-ups for the tourney I'm hosting, LOL! I have things to do that day but if that get's cancelled, I'll sign up later. Lol I honestly didn't even notice that. All I did was ask Hellknight if he was doing any tournaments before that one and he said no. Didn't want to do it this week cause it wasn't much time to let people know it's happening again and stickbug's thing is Saturday. So I just picked a day next weekend and here we are.
NorseFTX Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 PSN I.D.: NorseFTX Character: Tsubaki State/Province*: CA Time Zone*: PST Excited for this! I'm still a beginner, though. I hope my amount of fail will be entertaining to at least some people. =P
CMSORA Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 PSN I.D.: CMSORA Character: Jin State/Province*: CA Time Zone*: PST Hopefully I can make it for this and if i can i am there.
floatwater Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 PSN I.D.: Ethereal_Albion Character: Ragna State/Province*: PA Time Zone*: EST as SANIC DE HEDGEHOG. GOTTA GET GOOOD
StayFree( ' 3') Posted April 24, 2012 Posted April 24, 2012 PSN I.D.: I_SEE_WEABOOS Character: Bang State/Province*: CA Time Zone*: PST I should be able to make it as long as work doesn't get in the way.
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