Dont_Explain Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) It didn't help I didn't feel like blocking, but even then I probably wouldn't realize where the crossup was cause I haven't played in forever. I could guess when you do the Evasive Action crossup, but I don't know what she can jump cancel so hold that fire (if you can even do it that long) and crossup with it. No one's gonna block it until you do it over and over. I should probably autocombo more so I can have meter and do whatever the fuck I want. EX Dash Spring is too good. Why is dealing with that worse than dealing with oki > high/low/throw? I don't think I've ever seen anyone block a crossup mixup. It just happens so fast, especially if they can jump over you with an attack. Edited December 4, 2012 by Dont_Explain
Moy_X7 Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 The A Agi > Roll is not even a cross-up since I have to let go off A for the roll (A+C), I just have it so that Agi locks you down while I switch sides lol. I could have done IAD > quick turn + Agi cross-up but since you were falling for non-cross-up Agi, I said fuck it lol. It's okay, I don't really play this game either. This is like the fifth day I've touched this game. I'll have to upload that match with the Dia vs Garu clash, that shit was dumb as hell lol.
Dont_Explain Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) The A Agi > Roll is not even a cross-up since I have to let go off A for the roll (A+C), I just have it so that Agi locks you down while I switch sides lol. I knew I wasn't blocking, but damn lol. I wish I pressed this many buttons in BB. I'd be unstoppable. I'll have to upload that match with the Dia vs Garu clash, that shit was dumb as hell lol. Oh yeah. I was like "He's gonna DP and imma be a baws and Garudy-WTF" I had to RC into another just to go through it. Edited December 4, 2012 by Dont_Explain
Moy_X7 Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 I can't take this game too seriously when everyone has a two-button DP that can be canceled into a super with I-frames for more stupid guessing games. The all-out-attack mashing shit is going to be the end of my pad.
Dont_Explain Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 You actually can assign a button to A+B and you only need to hit it 7-8 times.
Moy_X7 Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Yeah but I have a really weird controller set-up in order to play Yukiko. There's no room for an AoA macro and I wouldn't put it on the left thumbstick because I know that mashing that shit will break it lol. My setup looks like... Square - Light Attack X - Strong Attack Triangle - Throw O - Evasive Action L1 - Light Persona Attack R1 - Strong Persona Attack L2 - DP R2 - OMC R3 - Burst Setting the AoA macro wouldn't work on L2, R2, L3, or R3 and I need to have the layout specifically like that for the Agi A/B holds. What I do for AoA is push A+B with my thumb and immediately switch my hand stance so that I can tap A > B quickly in a rhythm with my index and middle fingers lol.
Dont_Explain Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Yeah I did that day 1 and trying to switch back to hold the controller normally after AoA mashing was annoying. Especially since you have to actually press those 15 extra buttons compared to the 7 I do.
skd Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 you really cant just do the AOA mash by mashing square and x simultaneously? my A and B are in the same spot and i dont really have trouble with it :v
Moy_X7 Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Nope, mashing A+B with my thumb nets me an average of 10-13 hits lol
Dont_Explain Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 I just did it a few times in training and I only get to 14 hits. Pressing 2 buttons with one finger just doesn't let me go fast enough.
toanenadiz Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Gotta mash harder I don't think I've ever seen anyone block a crossup mixup. It just happens so fast, especially if they can jump over you with an attack. I don't think it is any harder to deal with than any other mix-up. Tons of people have blocked mine's and I have been able to block their's.
Dont_Explain Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Well to specify I didn't mean like just jump cancel and crossup. I meant something like Yosuke sweep > 5D > jump over and crossup 5DD. Something like that or something quick like Akihiko EX Duck crossups. Stuff like that is hard to block. Pretty much seems like you're guessing.
AchedSphinx Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 If they jump and do cross up during oki, there's usually a gap where you can DP or roll through. Oki > mixup doesn't really leave a gap though, so you have to guess. I don't really have problems with AoA, though I never use it as Mitsuru. My button layout is similar to yours Moy, except I don't have an R3.
Errol Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Gotta mash harder I don't think it is any harder to deal with than any other mix-up. Tons of people have blocked mine's and I have been able to block their's. Are you talking about Lab's roll - spike crossup mixup? That seems totally ambiguous to me.
Aki- Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 GGS to those I played in the past few days. I've gotten so lazy with P4A that I just don't know what to do with myself lol On a side note I've learned that Aigis is my weakness.......and I wanna rip her head off! LOL
LoVeBirD- Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 It's super early right now but if anyone wants to play I'm online with a room hosted right now.
xmisogi Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 If anyone wants to play a naoto, feel free to add me! psn : x_misogi I'm trying to gain experience fighting against other chars.
gli Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 ggs axis, tloccpu I think I'm done with this game. It's time to move on :<
A.X.I.S. Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO the game is still alive don't stop! I finally beat tloccpu Mitsuru! I just downloaded him! dammit Gli!
Ichipoo Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 GGs to EmptySodaCans, if you're here on DL. Thanks for reminding me that... 1. I should stay away from online. 2. I'm an idiot for attempting to play P4A on pad. 3. Teaching me that Kanji can immediately F-Action after a whiffed super grab. 4. That the Naoto vs. Kanji matchup being in Naoto's favor is seriously on paper only. Other than that, I did find a new way to approach the matchup.
BatousaiJ Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 GGs to EmptySodaCans, if you're here on DL. Thanks for reminding me that... 1. I should stay away from online. 2. I'm an idiot for attempting to play P4A on pad. 3. Teaching me that Kanji can immediately F-Action after a whiffed super grab. 4. That the Naoto vs. Kanji matchup being in Naoto's favor is seriously on paper only. Other than that, I did find a new way to approach the matchup. P4A is actually a pad friendly game. Not as much as BB but it's quite easy to map everything in a way where inputting won't hold you back.
VR-Raiden Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) GGs SuzukaJanJan, LK, SmashMix, Nanayax Edited December 10, 2012 by VR-Raiden
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