NovaFortuna Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Nu is still a villain, though, sure she has been through a lot of stuff, but she is still completely crazy with becoming whole with Ragna (dunno if you can call her obsession love) and pretty much willing to destroy everything else. Sure she is made adorable in gags and all, but that's the joke in itself. I really doubt she will be a good guy ever, I can see her going out forgiven when killed or something or being a major boss, though.
Chaoschao222 Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I think antagonist would be a better fitting word for Nu than villain. I mean, she does care about Ragna, to the point of making Lambda sacrifice herself for his sake, problem is that she's just batshit insane. But she doesn't have any particularly villainous objectives, she just wants to be with Ragna while keeping everything else away from him/herself.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 She's lie Yuno Gasai is she wanted to kill Yuki; not evil, just insane.
mr. tibbs Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Apologies if this has been posted before, but is the end of Relius's CP arcade story a hint that Kokonoe will be playable (and that her direct participation is part of Relius's plan)? Paraphrase: Hakumen: You can't summon the master unit without Noel. Relius: Don't worry abou that. I've already got an alternative plan. [cut to black, radio static] Kokonoe: Come in, Tager. Tager: Kokonoe. K: The situation has changed. Meet me immediately. T: What do you mean? K: Don't make me repeat myself. I told you to meet me. I'll come and take care of this myself. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvkuy5_bbcp-relius-story_videogames&start=583 EDIT: Or is it just Kokonoe announcing her intention to pull Celica out of the past? Edited January 29, 2013 by mr. tibbs
harmless kitten Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 It has, although I think that exchange happens in many endings (all endings?), not just in Relius's. Afaik the plan to pull Amaterasu out of the Boundary isn't detailed much, but it might have something to do with Relius's other plan about using Rettenjou. Or Ragna and Nu in Ragna's ending. Or they might be part of the same plan. Both Relius's ending and Hazama's ending (where Celica shows up) have the same date (2/3), so she's probably already summoned Celica. She might just be handing her over to Tager, but "I'll come and take care of this myself" is awfully leading.
Tokkan Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) It has, although I think that exchange happens in many endings (all endings?), not just in Relius's. Afaik the plan to pull Amaterasu out of the Boundary isn't detailed much, but it might have something to do with Relius's other plan about using Rettenjou. Or Ragna and Nu in Ragna's ending. Or they might be part of the same plan. Both Relius's ending and Hazama's ending (where Celica shows up) have the same date (2/3), so she's probably already summoned Celica. She might just be handing her over to Tager, but "I'll come and take care of this myself" is awfully leading. Every ending is on that date, except Ragna's (2/2), Rachel's (2/4) and Bullet's (1/31). And Bullet's ending only has a different date because it's a flashback. The date given for the Kokonoe calling Tager to say she coming to do things herself is 2200/xx/xx. Edited January 30, 2013 by Tokkan
mitsuyoshi Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Every ending is on that date, except Ragna's (2/2), Rachel's (2/4) and Bullet's (1/31). And Bullet's ending only has a different date because it's a flashback. The date given for the Kokonoe calling Tager to say she coming to do things herself is 2200/xx/xx. That was a good information and Kokonoe calling Tager to say she coming to do thing herself is really fishy,i mean if you look at her personality there's no way she want to do something herself,that's why i think something was happen to her parents and the date is even more fishy,i mean why they keep the date a secret and where is Jubei and what is the connection between six heroes and the master unit? There just so many mystery here like always.
Master Of Chaos Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 That was a good information and Kokonoe calling Tager to say she coming to do thing herself is really fishy,i mean if you look at her personality there's no way she want to do something herself,that's why i think something was happen to her parents and the date is even more fishy,i mean why they keep the date a secret and where is Jubei and what is the connection between six heroes and the master unit? There just so many mystery here like always. ........When has it ever been suggested that she would never do something by herself? She almost killed Relius with her magic and sealed away a replica Black Beast right before that in the second Extra Story in CS2/Extend. And Jubei's probably still healing from his wounds from CS and training Jin. I also don't think Kokonoe knows about Phantom being Nine(?) ether. And...There's not really any? Other then Termui wants to destroy it.
Ehecatl Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 That was a good information and Kokonoe calling Tager to say she coming to do thing herself is really fishy,i mean if you look at her personality there's no way she want to do something herself,that's why i think something was happen to her parents and the date is even more fishy,i mean why they keep the date a secret and where is Jubei and what is the connection between six heroes and the master unit? There just so many mystery here like always. Have you ever heard of character development? It easily explains why she may want to take care of things personally. Characters change and evolve. That's the nature of story-telling. I find nothing problematic with her coming to this choice and it actually seems like a very natural part of her evolution considering that this story has been foreshadowing what she's capable of if she steps out from her lab for even a moment.
mr. tibbs Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 ........When has it ever been suggested that she would never do something by herself? She almost killed Relius with her magic and sealed away a replica Black Beast right before that in the second Extra Story in CS2/Extend. And Jubei's probably still healing from his wounds from CS and training Jin. I also don't think Kokonoe knows about Phantom being Nine(?) ether. And...There's not really any? Other then Termui wants to destroy it. This may be me being confused, but are you suggesting that Kokonoe's magic is what messed Jubei up? I know they aren't on glowing terms, but I thought it was Nine/Phantom. Or are you responding to the "maybe something happened to her parents" thing that mitsuyoshi posted by pointing out where/what Jubei has been up to? If so, then yeah. I was just confused.
harmless kitten Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Well, if I were Kokonoe I'd want to hang back too unless there was no other option; however, given her speech about wanting POWAH in CS it's not a leap to see her take the stage. Might as well do things yourself if your loyal minion isn't capable, right? The whole thing might just be a tease though. @Tokkan: Thanks! Didn't notice that Kokonoe's call didn't have the month or day listed.
Volt Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I think i remember that Mori said that the fans would get angry if she wasn't going to be playable in CP so it's basically confirmed now.
Chaoschao222 Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Mori's a liar, nothing he says should ever be taken too seriously.
Volt Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Mori's a liar, nothing he says should ever be taken too seriously. Except this time he can't lie out of this one. If she said she was going to meet Tager to take care of things herself it means that he surprisingly wasn't trolling us this time.
mitsuyoshi Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Have you ever heard of character development? It easily explains why she may want to take care of things personally. Characters change and evolve. That's the nature of story-telling. I find nothing problematic with her coming to this choice and it actually seems like a very natural part of her evolution considering that this story has been foreshadowing what she's capable of if she steps out from her lab for even a moment. Well, i know about character development and i happy she chose to do thing herself now, is just i have a bad feeling about this because of her parents situation.
Chaoschao222 Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Except this time he can't lie out of this one. If she said she was going to meet Tager to take care of things herself it means that he surprisingly wasn't trolling us this time. It means she'll go do things on her own, it in no way means she'll be playable, though. Saya went ahead and took care of the Master Unit in CS on her own, she's not playable. Just 'cause a character goes ahead and does something doesn't mean we get to do stuff with 'em :p
TPPR10 Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I am sure that Kokonoe is atleast sane enough to understand that you shouldn't launch nukes at something if you don't have PERFECTLY good reason for it. I really think taht she would only launch those nukes if the situations turn so bad that she has no choice to do it. Speaking of the nukes, I wonder if any one else than she, Tager and Hakumen knows about them. Do the nukes belong to Sector Seven or does Kokonoe seriousy keep huge silo full of nuclear warheads hidden from every one else?
mitsuyoshi Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 It means she'll go do things on her own, it in no way means she'll be playable, though. Saya went ahead and took care of the Master Unit in CS on her own, she's not playable. Just 'cause a character goes ahead and does something doesn't mean we get to do stuff with 'em :p Well, at that time Saya hasn't been revealed,she was revealed at the end of the game of course she doesn't playable and what she face is a major spoiler for the next game and she never said she do it alone, she only said that she already damage the master unit but she doesn't say how she do it,but yeah we can't say much if she hasn't been confirm
Volt Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Well, i know about character development and i happy she chose to do thing herself now, is just i have a bad feeling about this because of her parents situation. Does Jubei appear in any CP ending? I don't even know if he went to ikaruga like everyone else.
harmless kitten Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 It means she'll go do things on her own, it in no way means she'll be playable, though. Saya went ahead and took care of the Master Unit in CS on her own, she's not playable. Just 'cause a character goes ahead and does something doesn't mean we get to do stuff with 'em :p Nah, the Imperator didn't do anything to the Master Unit. She was just speaking metaphorically. what if she tries to use her nukes Kokonoe for SSS tier
Kriegdrache Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 what if she tries to use her nukes She doesn't know the trick to the PAL key, we're good for now.
mitsuyoshi Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Nah, the Imperator didn't do anything to the Master Unit. She was just speaking metaphorically. Kokonoe for SSS tier I have back after checking the wiki,so that mistranslation is not making the theory about her damage the master unit and she say all of it to taunt them ? So that mean the master unit condition is still unknown and yeah Kokonoe will become a high tier character but story wise i doubt she can beat her father.
WolfCrimson Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 She doesn't know the trick to the PAL key, we're good for now. I love you for making that MGS reference. No homo.
Recommended Posts