Tokkan Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Argh. Something I sorely missed. The Nox Nyctores Phoenix Rettenjou is actually a copy of Kushinada's Lynchpin. This was revealed in the Phase Shift novels, it seems. This is actually old information but I missed it.
Chaoschao222 Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 You said 'Reflecting her actions in CS is fine'? Uh... isn't that what we've been doing in these latest posts? With me supporting and sympathizing, and the majority of the rest thinking of how unsympathetic she is. Please, if there's something wrong in my definition of 'reflecting her actions', you can tell. Again, I'm not gonna lie and say I gave a shit about the last few posts. I am trusting the word of an Admin that felt the need to step in, sorry 'bout the heirarchy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Tokkan is a good example of Story Thread acceptability.
ChrisX Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Okay, to each to his own. I try to be as polite as possible. But... hm, how do I say it most politely... Well let's just say I stand by on my opinion and think that the opinions of how 'Litchi is self destructive, obsessed, stupid, fool as that quoted guy said' is just pure bullshit and I will shatter every of that statement when I see one... even if it gets me banned. OT: I guess that's why Relius eyes on Bang so much these days.
Circuitous Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 I wasn't trying to stop the immediate discussion, ChrisX just has a history of turning everything into a vicious debate about Litchi's character even where it isn't appropriate. It was a simple warning, that's all. Carry on.
Alpha to Omega Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 They posted the profiles for Carl and Hakumen: http://www.famitsu.com/cominy/?m=pc&a=page_fh_diary&target_c_diary_id=43265 Any new info in there?
Tokkan Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) They posted the profiles for Carl and Hakumen: http://www.famitsu.com/cominy/?m=pc&a=page_fh_diary&target_c_diary_id=43265 Any new info in there? Ignis (the nox, not the person) was created in Ikaruga. Hakumen intends to sever the curse of the Six Heroes. Or rather "curse of the people who are called the Six Heroes" as it was actually worded. Edited November 12, 2012 by Tokkan
kylehyde Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 I believe that Rachel's profile already came out, can anyone tell me what it says? Does it give any hints like some of the other bios as to her role in CP?
BlackYakuzu94 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 So does anyone have any idea how these three scenarios are going to play out? Like is each one going to star the three main characters respectively, and have subplots for every other character in that scenario?
Wild Candy Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Maybe it will be devided by affiliation Like Sector Seven, Free Lancers, and NOL.
Raptor Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I would expect at least 1 new character to have importance in each scenario. Take for example the above: S7 = Bullet (has ties to them) Free Lancers = Amane (travelling circus man is all we know) NOL = Azrael (yes he has ties to S7 also, but to me he seems easy to sway as long as he gets to satiate his thirst for combat. Hazama could make use of that.)
Wild Candy Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Sector Seven would probably revolve around Tager, Kokonoe (NPC currently) Makoto, and Bullet The Free Lancer group would probably be Carl, Ragna, Noel, Jin, Rachel, Amane, Tao, Bang, Platinum, Hakumen, and Valkenhayn NOL will most likely focus on Azreal, Litchi, Tsubaki, Relius, Hazama, Arakuna (Currently being held captive) and Nu.
Starlight777 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Azrael is with Sector Seven though. EDIT: Oh wait your saying he could betray them and switch sides. That actually does seem possible. Edited November 13, 2012 by Starlight777
Tokkan Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 http://www.famitsu.com/cominy/?m=pc&a=page_fh_diary&target_c_diary_id=43600 Tsubaki, Hazama, Makoto BBCP Profiles Tsubaki's been given a "False Light" by the Imperator (which I suppose is what's keeping her from going blind). She's also been promoted to Major due to "her achievements in repelling Ragna the Bloodedge". This is just my comment, but LOL, that's completely false; Mika-tan's just turned her into the new Jin, a figurehead hero. Hazama's still trying to destroy Amaterasu; not really new but it confirms they haven't done that already. A lot of people seem to think Amaterasu's already been destroyed.
Wild Candy Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 It also looks like while doing a mission for Sector seven, Makoto bans together with Noel to help save Tsubaki. (Or something like that, my computor isn't all that great at translating) It also said something about Makoto having a mission from Sector Seven.
Starlight777 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) So they never destroyed Amaterasu at the end of CS? I thought the Imperator did that. I find it hilarious that Tsubaki has completely taken Jin's place as the psychotic figurehead Major. Edited November 13, 2012 by Starlight777
Wild Candy Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I think they just kept if from observing, and Takamahara (Or however you spell it) From looping time over and over using Terumi and the Izayoi.
Tokkan Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) So they never destroyed Amaterasu at the end of CS? I thought the Imperator did that. IIRC, the original Japanese version of the line was kinda vague about whether she was just stating her intentions or what she had already done. The dub decidedly went with the latter, and has now suffered for it. Edited November 13, 2012 by Tokkan
Starlight777 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 IIRC, the original Japanese version of the line was kinda vague about whether she stating just her intentions or what she had already done. The dub decidedly went with the latter, and has now suffered for it. Ok I understand now. In hindsight it makes sense that it wasn't destroyed yet, seeing as how we haven't even seen what the Amaterasu unit looks like yet. It would be kinda lame for something like that to be destroyed off screen lol.
Wild Candy Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I think though that they prevented Takamahara from Observing/Looping time when Terumi used The Izayoi to keep them from observing and attacked them with that virus. (And Saya said that the world is now a world of perminant death or something like that)
Tokkan Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 I think though that they prevented Takamahara from Observing/Looping time when Terumi used The Izayoi to keep them from observing and attacked them with that virus. (And Saya said that the world is now a world of perminant death or something like that) Takamagahara is something entirely different, and from what I understand they've been infected with a virus that turns off their consciousnesses and gives their power to the Imperator, or something. The "gives their power to the Imperator" part may be specifically from the CS MC, I don't remember it being stated in the games but I do remember reading about it in the Materials Collection thread.
harmless kitten Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 In the English version the line about Amaterasu is translated as "I have brought ruin to the Master Unit." Which is pretty ambiguous when you pause and take a look at it, although it seems like she's boasting that she killed Amaterasu after all. But, I think earlier confusion over whether or not the Imperator had destroyed Amaterasu had a hand in convincing people that she had. She speaks in archaic Japanese, iirc, and that further compounded the confusion. I think the earliest reports of the True End said that Amaterasu was destroyed. I think CP story mode will be a lot like Calamity Trigger Reconstruction, only with somewhat more focus on more minor characters. I think it'll be an easier way of handling the story, especially wrt what really happened in the canon timeline and what didn't, but the story mode is probably gonna feel really bloated. Shame. I missed the little discrete chunks that were previous stories.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 NOL = Azrael (yes he has ties to S7 also, but to me he seems easy to sway as long as he gets to satiate his thirst for combat. Hazama could make use of that.) I was thinking the same thing, especially since I'm sure Azrael would want to fight those referred to as the Six Heroes. Hazama bodying his shit and then using his manipulative personality will likely win Azrael over especially since he's "not treated very well" by S7 for his violent streak, which would work great for Hazama's schemes. I think they just kept if from observing, and Takamahara (Or however you spell it) From looping time over and over using Terumi and the Izayoi. This. Ignis (the nox, not the person) was created in Ikaruga. Hakumen intends to sever the curse of the Six Heroes. Or rather "curse of the people who are called the Six Heroes" as it was actually worded. I'm guessing allowing them to take part in history, rather than being forced to be observers for the events that have taken place, and will take in place in the future. In the English version the line about Amaterasu is translated as "I have brought ruin to the Master Unit." Which is pretty ambiguous when you pause and take a look at it, although it seems like she's boasting that she killed Amaterasu after all. But, I think earlier confusion over whether or not the Imperator had destroyed Amaterasu had a hand in convincing people that she had. She speaks in archaic Japanese, iirc, and that further compounded the confusion. I think the earliest reports of the True End said that Amaterasu was destroyed. I think CP story mode will be a lot like Calamity Trigger Reconstruction, only with somewhat more focus on more minor characters. I think it'll be an easier way of handling the story, especially wrt what really happened in the canon timeline and what didn't, but the story mode is probably gonna feel really bloated. Shame. I missed the little discrete chunks that were previous stories. Have more faith, besides doing redundant fight x for both sides of the fight was kinda boring. Especially when you KNOW you actually wins the fight.
Tokkan Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) I personally don't like the idea of separating the story by affiliation. I think it's more logical to assign the stories to our 3 main characters, as we know they're all going their separate ways in the storyline. Some characters would lose out, but that could easily be fixed by adding unlockable "side-story" chapters that focus on them. Associating each story with a particular affiliation would be difficult since a few characters are only loosely connected to one affiliation, and the freelance characters are basically split among "those who are on Ragna's side" and "those who want to turn Ragna in for the bounty". I also don't want to play from the NOL's perspective this time, I think the story could use a little more suspense when it comes to revealing their intentions this time 'round. Edited November 13, 2012 by Tokkan
BlackYakuzu94 Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Maybe it will be devided by affiliation Like Sector Seven, Free Lancers, and NOL. Hmm: S7: Tager, Azreal, Makoto, Noel(?)[it's kinda unclear considering she goes with Makoto at the end of CS] Free Lancers: Ragna, Jin, Rachel, Valkenhayn, Bang, Carl, Taokaka, Hakumen, Bullet, Platinum, Amane NOL: Hazama, Relius, Tsubaki, Litchi, Arakune(They might use him for somethin), Lambda(Hazama is confirmed to be using her for..."something"). I dunno, it kinda seems disproportionate. I mean I know the stories are going to intertwine here and there, but still.
MikelAL93 Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Hmm: S7: Tager, Azreal, Makoto, Noel(?)[it's kinda unclear considering she goes with Makoto at the end of CS] Free Lancers: Ragna, Jin, Rachel, Valkenhayn, Bang, Carl, Taokaka, Hakumen, Bullet, Platinum, Amane NOL: Hazama, Relius, Tsubaki, Litchi, Arakune(They might use him for somethin), Lambda(Hazama is confirmed to be using her for..."something"). I think I will make a correction, but it isn't Lambda that's being used by Hazama, its Nu. She revived herself on her own will to fuse with Ragna to form what Hazama calls the "Sword of Hades," and was re-tuned by him to stand in Ragna's way once again
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