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As annoying as something like Makoto/Haku using their counters to escape the drill oki, I can see it adding to the metagame quite a bit. They'll more than likely be expecting a drill on wakeup after you score a knockdown and may try to parry, but a slightly delayed drill will get them CH'd for their effort. :eng101:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVeQ2YyRZt4&t=4m15s

-Makoto is stuck in Parry animation until she rebel all the drill hits during that she is vulnerable to low attacks (free punish)

-Her Parry catch is blockable (punish)

-She lose high mid Invu while charging for Space Counter, and the start up is like 20F'ish so you are free to punish her (punish)

Its a diffinitive lose situation for Makoto in Oki.

Amane long ranges chain like stuff have pretty epic disjointed hitbox, means that Makoto will be unable to hit him with the parry catch, so he is free to punish her while she is frozen in the parry animation.

Aloci

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVeQ2YyRZt4&t=4m15s

-Makoto is stuck in Parry animation until she rebel all the drill hits during that she is vulnerable to low attacks (free punish)

-Her Parry catch is blockable (punish)

-She lose high mid Invu while charging for Space Counter, and the start up is like 20F'ish so you are free to punish her (punish)

Its a diffinitive lose situation for Makoto in Oki.

Amane long ranges chain like stuff have pretty epic disjointed hitbox, means that Makoto will be unable to hit him with the parry catch, so he is free to punish her while she is frozen in the parry animation.

I'm suddenly really excited for some Makoto match-ups :3

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Well if the parry doesn't catch lows than she cannot parry the LV 3 version, meaning she is forced to block low. Overall from what I'm reading if StarGazer is right (I won't question a Makoto main, LOL!), the parry isn't something we need to worry about on wake up, that's interesting. I'll have to make some changes to my notes.

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Could that palette be Amane's anime reference? I'm not sure what it is, but it looks elaborate enough. Maybe SF Rose?

I dunno. I'm kinda thinking more B. Jenet from Garou:MoW.

DerQ

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It's not rose though. Blue and red outfit with blue hair. Plus, the scarf is yellow and flashes green. While here, amane is purple/orange with blond hair. Though I'll agree a rose color palette would work :P I'm a man of vanilla and classic though. Original palette was the one intended, so it'll be the one I use 100% of the time.

Aloci

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It's not rose though. Blue and red outfit with blue hair. Plus, the scarf is yellow and flashes green. While here, amane is purple/orange with blond hair. Though I'll agree a rose color palette would work :P I'm a man of vanilla and classic though. Original palette was the one intended, so it'll be the one I use 100% of the time.

I would totally kill for a Rose palette though D:

Then I could mash 5D like it was Soul Spiral <3

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Well if the parry doesn't catch lows than she cannot parry the LV 3 version, meaning she is forced to block low. Overall from what I'm reading if StarGazer is right (I won't question a Makoto main, LOL!), the parry isn't something we need to worry about on wake up, that's interesting. I'll have to make some changes to my notes.

Drill lvl3 hits low? ِAnyway, parry is a no no on Oki, it leaves Amane a good enough time to react easily to her parry with his long low sweep or whatever he have so Parry cant even be used as a risky gimmick like in some match ups.

Toasty

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This Amane did very well in the tourney, and it looks like more people are beginning to pick him up.

We should hopefully be getting more match vids of him soon!

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Drill lvl3 hits low? ِAnyway, parry is a no no on Oki, it leaves Amane a good enough time to react easily to her parry with his long low sweep or whatever he have so Parry cant even be used as a risky gimmick like in some match ups.

Yes, LV 3 hits low. Thanks for the information on the other side StarGazer, it has really helped me out and I'll update my notes as soon as I get home.

It's nice to see that LV 3 of that super gives even more untech time and it's not the same as the OD version (Should be expected)

There's enough time to toss a ground spiral after 5D, Possible frame trap if spiral is at LV 3? (Not so sure but it appears it cold be)

This guy... he's definitely one I'm going to keep my eyes open for.

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Well if the parry doesn't catch lows than she cannot parry the LV 3 version, meaning she is forced to block low. Overall from what I'm reading if StarGazer is right (I won't question a Makoto main, LOL!), the parry isn't something we need to worry about on wake up, that's interesting. I'll have to make some changes to my notes.

You still got good old Haku 2D to keep you warm. :3

Toasty

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Do we still not know if all the hits of lvl 3 drill are low or not?

I want my unblockables.

Chris Chaos

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Do we still not know if all the hits of lvl 3 drill are low or not?

I want my unblockables.

Not sure, but it's something I'm looking into and would like an answer to that as well.

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Do we still not know if all the hits of lvl 3 drill are low or not?

I want my unblockables.

That would be beyond cheap considering everything he seems to have for himself. I want him to be good and cheap in the right hands, but not that stupid.

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It's nice to see that LV 3 of that super gives even more untech time and it's not the same as the OD version (Should be expected)

There's enough time to toss a ground spiral after 5D, Possible frame trap if spiral is at LV 3? (Not so sure but it appears it cold be)

This guy... he's definitely one I'm going to keep my eyes open for.

It looks like he has tons of options for follow ups after the lv3 version D:

I can't wait to see what people come up with. Maybe a ground spiral into 6D?

Dash up CT?

Maybe if you do it out of the corner, you can combo your 236C, get a wall stick and go from there?

So many possibilities D:

Toasty

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Amane colors #7-16:

BBCP_Amane_Palettes_7-16.png

Looks like #14 is the Litchi palette, but #9 is so mine.

Black and pink? So much win.

Aloci

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Oh man. #7 and #16 look nice.

#10 kinda reminds me of Lyn from Fire Emblem. Everything is a bit too bright for it though :(

Aloci

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I really believe Amane will be the best of the 3 new characters.

Well yeah. So far, our sub-thread is the most active out of the threads for the 3 new characters.

We're at 40 pages and the others still haven't even hit 15.

Besides, what character can look this fabulous while making you lose 20% from chip?

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