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Oh hell yeah... dat corner push.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QzZ4Y8OTFEc#t=31s

Also interested in checking out this 6C > j.A > J.C > J.B > J.D ~ 214A set upon all characters. although it was from a 2B starter it looks doable from typical 5A/2A starters close up. looking forward to the CP lab cant wait.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QzZ4Y8OTFEc#t=148s

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I think I saw in of the video's that Noel managed to Muzzle Filter someone after a normal throw. Does that mean that Muzzle Filter works on air borne targets now?

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Noel already can cancel her ground normal throw with her cmd throw in EX you just need to do it before the 2nd hit comes out of her normal throw before she goes air borne after the knee hit. unless you are specifically saying an air normal throw ( both players in the air when throw is occuring ) into a cmd grab then no it doesnt work in either games as far as

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Noel already can cancel her ground normal throw with her cmd throw in EX you just need to do it before the 2nd hit comes out of her normal throw before she goes air borne after the knee hit. unless you are specifically saying an air normal throw ( both players in the air when throw is occuring ) into a cmd grab then no it doesnt work in either games as far as

That's a shame, it would Muzzle Filter whole lot more useful...

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yeah but hey wat can you do? _-_ it atleast is buffed to 1500 in damage so thats cool. Any other properties is unknown except for that 1 incident i heard her cmd grabbing through arakune's DD unharmed. Ive never seen the video for it nor do i thing it was legit sounds very fishy as i doubt mori would really give noel a invincible 1500 damage cmd grab 4 free. then again he did make CS1 5D which was basically the same thing but worse..... you never know...

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yeah but hey wat can you do? _-_ it atleast is buffed to 1500 in damage so thats cool. Any other properties is unknown except for that 1 incident i heard her cmd grabbing through arakune's DD unharmed. Ive never seen the video for it nor do i thing it was legit sounds very fishy as i doubt mori would really give noel a invincible 1500 damage cmd grab 4 free. then again he did make CS1 5D which was basically the same thing but worse..... you never know...

On the bright side, most of Noel's CP changes seem to be positive. (Like being able to cancel Chain Revolver in Muzzle Filter, Optic Barrel, and Chamber Shot.)

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I don't mean to derail, but I just have one question. Who is THE Noel to watch in CP, or if it's not that cut-and-dry, who are the top 3? I haven't followed BB since CS1, so I don't know who's still playing and what new Noel's are beasting.

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Shirushino (this is actually R-1 but under a different name currently), R-2, Takeyama, Kou (also goes by kou-vermillion). you can also go to these individuals in the video thread thats should be located right under this thread for CP. when you get there you should see a list thats says "notable players" and should have the same list as i mentioned earlier. when you scroll down, you will see some lists of noel vs a specific character and eventually see some matches in bold lettering which highlights the forementioned notable players who are in those matches specifically so you dont have to search through videos if you wanna get to them quickly.

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Something told me to check the first post of that thread first, thanks. I will check all of those players out.

I'm curious to see what this new 6b is all about.

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Shirushino (this is actually R-1 but under a different name currently), R-2, Takeyama, Kou (also goes by kou-vermillion). you can also go to these individuals in the video thread thats should be located right under this thread for CP. when you get there you should see a list thats says "notable players" and should have the same list as i mentioned earlier. when you scroll down, you will see some lists of noel vs a specific character and eventually see some matches in bold lettering which highlights the forementioned notable players who are in those matches specifically so you dont have to search through videos if you wanna get to them quickly.

I was under the assumption that both R-1 and Takeyama dropped Noel. I do hope both of them come back though.

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No r-1 still plays noel. if you happen to see a player named R-1 but plays with jin thats not him. Shirushino is the real R-1 its just another time of R-1 changing tag names again like the old days of CS1 and stuff nothing too new just funny stuff.

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How Daisul is 18th Dan makes no logical sense to me

Cause he plays too much. He has been top 8 in character rankings for every console release on PS3 with tons of matches played. It makes perfect sense he would play BBCP to death at the arcade before console comes out.

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Its true what kurushii said. Ive also seen Daisul in a few matches and he does pretty well. his noel is pretty solid enough to learn a few things from him from different perspectives i suppose. he is the top rankings with noel generally in every bb game so he's proven to be worthy of atleast watching for noel MU and other stuff a bit.

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I find it more fun to see how those notable Noel players win despite differing from each other in their playstyles. I mean we got:

R-1: Goes for flash. This makes him use drive....excessively. A very unpredictable yet dangerous (to both him and hs opponent) playstyle that can go either way.

DAISUL: Same thing as above albeit with more restraint. I call him R-1 lite at times.

Takeyama: Nothing too unique really, he just plays solidly.

Kou: More emphasis on normals. Might make him a little predicatable in the long run, but thats why hes been using more spacing in recent vids I saw him.

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I find Kou to plays similar to the way I generally play noel. I also put more emphasis on normals than drives in the majority of my situations and matches. I like the way he plays.

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I meant i dont understand how Daisul is 18th dan because he plays like he literally has no sense. I dont know how or why hes so high. But i guess it can be chalked up to as simple as he plays way too much. I actually think R-1 is Daisul lite. But I do admit they both use nice tech sometimes though. They both go for risky things but i see Daisul going for them more. Havnt watched much Takeyama. Kou, is pretty passive aggressive. Relying on normals like you mentioned and some nice tricks here and there. I personally like him best, because before i watched him I was going the passive aggressive route with Noel as well. And still am.

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Hey new player here. I was wondering if you guys knew where I could find a good Noel combo thread with bnb stuff? Tried to search the forums but I only found some old archieved threads which I dont even know if they're from the newest game or not. Google didn't help me a lot either. Thanks!

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Hey new player here. I was wondering if you guys knew where I could find a good Noel combo thread with bnb stuff? Tried to search the forums but I only found some old archieved threads which I dont even know if they're from the newest game or not. Google didn't help me a lot either. Thanks!

All threads have prefixes on them to show what game it's related to: [CT], [CS1], [CS2], [CSE], [CP]. Since CP isn't out on console then look at the CSE thread here.

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All threads have prefixes on them to show what game it's related to: [CT], [CS1], [CS2], [CSE], [CP]. Since CP isn't out on console then look at the CSE thread here.

Thanks for the fast reply! I'll go check out that link. And yes, I'm only playing continuum shift extend not phantasma or whatever the other one is called. ^_^

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