Ctrlaltwtf Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 It's cool, I've moved to Bullet's 720. It's way cooler. I've heard Potemkin's a really solid character, I don't know why they can't give the same treatment to Tager. They just took solid Potemkin and shot him all the way down to his own C-Tier in Xrd due to removing some of his great tools and giving him new borderline useless ones.
just some guy Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 After having my backdash beaten out by a Bullet mashing 2A everytime I called one of her moves, I can say without a doubt that this update is complete nonsense.
D.R.F. Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 They just took solid Potemkin and shot him all the way down to his own C-Tier in Xrd due to removing some of his great tools and giving him new borderline useless ones. Pots not that bad in xrd, especially with the new system mechanics.
TagerTime Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 Pots not that bad in xrd, especially with the new system mechanics. He is still the worst character in the game according to two of the newest arcadia tierlists. Tager is higher tier than Potemkin is now, who would have thought that day would come? lol. It's cool, I've moved to Bullet's 720. It's way cooler. NOTHING IS COOLER THAN GENESIC EMERALD TAGER BUSTER!! NOTHING!!!!!
Hecatom Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 I think that i need to change my av Those changes make not want to play Tager that much being honest, which is really bad for me since i don't have any sub to jump into :/ I have to wonder what is ASW thinking with their balance decisions with BB, is like... why? to this day i have been always an advocate that they are one of the few companies that make sound balanced desicions the major part of the time but every update or revision of BB makes me I guess that i will have to do as usual adapt (though i am still ass at BB) Pots not that bad in xrd, especially with the new system mechanics. I don't know man, Pot on Xrd is really, really weak, specially compared to its AC and AC+R versions, all of its tools are just meh, and its 2 new aditions are basically useless. It is telling how ass he is when one of the long time top players of the character really considers to drop it in favor of other one. It is those things that really makes me think that what its said, that Pachi hates grapplers is true
Yohosie Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 The more I play with the new 5A change the more I come to peace with it. You can do some really tricky resets with the horrible proation. I've gotten some interesting setups with 5A>5B>3C>Atomic Collider(Whiff)> 6A>2D(whiff)>720. I think out of everything it's the change I'm more surprised at being comfortable with, since 5A nerf made poking out of block strings and for pressure a much less rewarding option. Overall, my resets are actually MORE successful since the change than without it. I think I would have preferred the raw damage and meter, but in the end it's a change I can live with. Backdash and meter from Gadget Finger I'm still having trouble coping with though. Backdash is still good on reaction against moves like Gauntlet Hades/Blood Scythe that make it so they can't RC the move. But, every character (probaby?) can OS his backdash on Tager's wakeup for a punish now. Just not very good. Blocking in this game is too tough to have 0 options without 50 meter, especially when it's relatively easy to start pressuring Tager. [v] A bit of a joke, somewhat serious. Bullet isn't better than Tager because of her command grab game, just because of her other tools. More consistent. Tager's command grab game is still obviously the best. That's more than a little bit of an exaggeration. It's not like Busters/720s have changed at all.
Yohosie Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Sorry for the doublepost, but the quote formatting is throwing me off. Here's a setup I threw together based off the new 5A change. I can't get the 6C>RC>720C to work with 50 meter used because I have, as Futurama would call it, "Stupid Fingers". If you can get the technique down, it's practical. 5A>5B>3C>6A>2C>Atomic Collider>623D>6C>RC [Hold Forward]>720C https://vine.co/v/MHihrh2iJVP VineCombos
SoWL Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 How can one be even less consistent than Bullet? Unless you're Arakune or something.
Yohosie Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 By being Tager, who relies almost exclusively on hard reads, lending him to be pretty explosive. It's an arguable point, one I probably shouldn't have brought up because it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things
D.R.F. Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I think that i need to change my av Those changes make not want to play Tager that much being honest, which is really bad for me since i don't have any sub to jump into :/ I have to wonder what is ASW thinking with their balance decisions with BB, is like... why? to this day i have been always an advocate that they are one of the few companies that make sound balanced desicions the major part of the time but every update or revision of BB makes me I guess that i will have to do as usual adapt (though i am still ass at BB) I don't know man, Pot on Xrd is really, really weak, specially compared to its AC and AC+R versions, all of its tools are just meh, and its 2 new aditions are basically useless. It is telling how ass he is when one of the long time top players of the character really considers to drop it in favor of other one. It is those things that really makes me think that what its said, that Pachi hates grapplers is true I have faith in the protector of zeppian skies, especially since FAB abd Consome still play him. Those two going to grand finals and then some remind me over and over that pot can pay the bills. Is he worse? Oh god yes definitely. He is not a deadbeat character though
Darlos9D Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Yeah, and on top of that Pot sucking could just be first installment weirdness. Because let's face it Xrd is basically the start of a brand new series. I hold at least some hope that by Gulity Gear Xrd Ballbuster Insignia ++ Ephemeral Shock %100020, Pot might actually be decent again. Mori and friends have had their fucking chance with Tager though. At this point I seriously don't blame anyone for dropping him. Or BlazBlue for that matter. I know my last post was basically me trying to be an apologist about the backdash changes, but that's just me. I try to look at the positive as much as possible. But even I have my limits and I now see how dumb these changes are. We've got a large slow moving target with middling reach and no good armor, reversals, or anti-airs outside of supers, and his meter gain is moderate at best. Good fucking job Arcsys you pushed me over the edge. Christ.
Hecatom Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I have faith in the protector of zeppian skies, especially since FAB abd Consome still play him. Those two going to grand finals and then some remind me over and over that pot can pay the bills. Is he worse? Oh god yes definitely. He is not a deadbeat character though FAB is the player that is considering on dropping him
Raziul Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 All I know is I don't even care when I lose to Tager anymore. He's such a load of BS that you never feel like you got out played.
Justice7541 Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 I'm not sure about BS. He is pretty solid compared to past games and bad players can certainly fraud with him better than with other characters because he can take big risks for big rewards, but just because he wins one game out of ten because his churning finally paid off the tenth time doesn't necessarily make him fraud tier.
D.R.F. Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Besides its honestly your fault if they do that fraud shit too. Grappler vortex baby
Justice7541 Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 Well it's pretty much a straight guessing game, especially if your character doesn't have a DP. If he gets lucky 2-3 times in a row that's pretty much GGs.
Koopa_Klawz Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 I heard Grandia canceled his trip to EVO. :< So much for Tager in top 8.
Yohosie Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 So how does the Haku matchup feel in 1.1? Hakumen v Tager neutral game is still a struggle for Tager. You're forced to play patiently in the matchup. Voltic Charge is cool but you're giving up space control for a smidgen of Spark Bolt meter, while conversely Hakumen is just playing his poking game to gain meter. Definitely a difficult matchup, but absolutely winnable.
Darlos9D Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Hakumen v Tager neutral game is still a struggle for Tager. You're forced to play patiently in the matchup. Voltic Charge is cool but you're giving up space control for a smidgen of Spark Bolt meter, while conversely Hakumen is just playing his poking game to gain meter. Definitely a difficult matchup, but absolutely winnable. Just... don't get counterhit by his 3C. ::shudders::
just some guy Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Just... don't get counterhit by his 3C. ::shudders:: Or hit by Agito, or 5A, or anything really. God, that backdash nerf gets more ridiculous the more I play.
Raziul Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 I hope whoever invented Tager and decided he should be the only character in the game with unavoidable tech traps needs to DIAF.
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