[CP] Jin Gameplay Discussion

[Dawn of Musou]

Ahh okay, thanks for that. I mostly see the first one being used the most although Eruo did use the one you posted against a Valk lol. Can't wait to start experimenting when console version comes.

[shtkn]

interesting. tiat's a bit of extra swag and corner carry versus most chars then.

[eQualz]

Just to be clear, the Jin general thread didn't go out of hand, did it?

[Jyosua]

Moy had said he was told to close it a long while ago... I doubt it's because of anything that was said there. We usually just talk about gameplay stuff anyhow, so it's not a big deal.

[Moy_X7]

Just to be clear, the Jin general thread didn't go out of hand, did it?

Nope, we've actually done a pretty good job to keep things under control there. Some other character General Threads went too far with the off-topic talk so it was decided that all General Threads should be taken down.

[Jourdal]

Basically we just keep doing what we're doing in a different thread.

Ronitta!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zZWivdlBaxY#t=720s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MSuUUqe9f70#t=203s

http://youtu.be/VoqWpDJG8FA (also loses to shino at the end)

[Dawn of Musou]

^Ronitta matches were hype.

http://youtu.be/MSuUUqe9f70?t=12m18s

I also really like the combo the Jin did here even though it wasn't finished. Still love OD Sekka follow-up <3

[Putin]

So, uh...

http://youtu.be/rUb6MhHXU5A?t=9m33s

We'll continue whiffing Rehhyou in combos against Relius, Valk, Rachel, Tager and the like?

I sure hope Shirushi just picked him up too early after Musou ;-;

[shtkn]

that problem (and solution) exists in extend: delay the 623C to combo on certain characters. iirc in extend you need to delay on: tager, valk, makoto, relius, rachel (sometimes). i imagine you'll have to do the same in cp.

[eQualz]

Ronitta stay sexy, stay godlike. I'd imagine he picked him up too early after Mosou, even if it doesn't really matter as shtkn said.

Has anyone seen 2B > JC being utilized? According to the wiki 2B is jump cancellable again on hit. If this is true > TK Hizangeki resets all day.

[Putin]

that problem (and solution) exists in extend: delay the 623C to combo on certain characters. iirc in extend you need to delay on: tager, valk, makoto, relius, rachel (sometimes). i imagine you'll have to do the same in cp.

Yes I know, it's just... awkward and adds to useless character specific bullshit. DP loops already required different timings for DP B on many characters anyway.

[eQualz]

Let's just be happy that ice car is an universal ender now.

[Jourdal]

You want more Ronitta? sure you do

an hour of Ronitta VS Hitotose Hazama (his partner in the 2on2....lulz)

http://youtu.be/3aQRCXRaukg

http://youtu.be/t9wmg_FmalU

http://youtu.be/ksM9dCxkKBg

M-more Ronitta? sure

VS Momo Hazama and a litchi http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EC1I9ZLN1qI#t=333s

VS Litchi and Momo Hazama http://youtu.be/diUSwnNe_DU

VS Valk, Momo Hazama http://youtu.be/ooKvW-XQH7M

Good timing since we lost General Tetsuwo ;-;

I've been musing about which JP player I'm going to dickride x-copy

....as usual despite jins simplicity their gameplans are pretty distinct. That said....i think i would use C DP in combos more than they do..it looks a lot cooler now.

Edited June 4, 2013 by Jourdal

[Master Of Chaos]

Twtsuwo really left us for Rachel? Damn. I was hoping that someone had just made that up. Well, we still got Ronitta I guess. Also is Fenrich still in depression mode from his Arc Cup defeat? I don't think I've seen him in action since then.

[Jourdal]

He only shows up at athena..and they upload every other week or so. Ronitta is quite good...we have a lot of good jins. Speaking of jin.

Shikkoku, not seen too often but he's pretty solid

http://youtu.be/09mrNRKNSxA

http://youtu.be/NbVgHqCUnk0

[Moy_X7]

I've been musing about which JP player I'm going to dickride x-copy

....as usual despite jins simplicity their gameplans are pretty distinct. That said....i think i would use C DP in combos more than they do..it looks a lot cooler now.

Ronitta <3

3C > Sekka, IAD j.2C seem like it will catch forward rolls at least and it launches the opponent all the way across the screen. Corner Sekka, j.2C catches rolls as confirmed on that Ronitta vs Az match.

I'm guessing that the reason why people don't use DP C in combos as much is because of the time restricted combo system. Then again, if 5B > 5C > 22C~D, 66 5C > 2C > DP C > 66 5B(1) > 5C > Air Combo works then it should work pretty much everywhere else as long as you don't start the combo with a crappy starter such as 5A/2A.

I for one will be going for DP C and Sekka ender awl dei, errdei.

[Dawn of Musou]

Not sure if I'll use Sekka or Musou more as an ender. I'll probably use each of them depending on what I feel like. Hizansen is also pretty sexy to look at so I'll be going for air combos a lot.

[Jourdal]

I'm probably going to use sekka ender...whats cool though is you can get a little blue beat extension off either ender lol, i was loving Ronittas 3C>sekka>iad jC stuff. So as moy said <3 Ronitta. Im gonna mash ground to air hizansen like Tetsuwo because it seemed to work wonders.

[Putin]

Hizansen looks pretty bad imo even in the corner, unless the opponent is super respectful and lets you IAD on them for free. Its only strong point from my point of view is the extra damage.

Musou (no followup) is probably as strong as EX Musou A, but SMP won't let you use it twice, effectively removing it as a filler from your corner combos.

Sekka on the other hand, looks just as strong minus the crossunders, and works just fine as an ender if you use it twice in the same combo.

It's nice that we have options, especially if you add Rehhyou ender despite people rarely using it. Mixing up combos both for fun and for different oki is gonna be awesome

And I just realized that you were talking about midscreen lol. I'm probably using both Musou (no followup probably) and Sekka there, mixing them up again to have people guessing. Hizansen only when I don't want/need to deal with them at close range, or for the kill.

It also seems like I'll be the only one using Sekka followup strictly for corner side swaps, need that meter for easy confirm > Tousshougeki > 4k and HIZANGEKI

Edited June 4, 2013 by Putin

[Dawn of Musou]

I probably won't ever use Musou follow-up unless the combo damage is about to go to the next 1000th place. Example: If I do a combo which does 2.9K, then I'll go for Musou follow-up to get that 3.1K. It's stupid but it just feels more complete to me lmao.

[Moy_X7]

A 5B starter that goes into 22C~D does 3.6K, I can't just ignore all that damage for a mere 25 Heat. Hizangeki will be a situational thing to use as you can only get its full damage in the corner or mid-screen-ish with 50 Heat (Hizangeki > 214D~C wallstick).

I'll really only be doing the 214D~C follow-ups if I'm somewhat close to the corner for the wallstick or if it's off a 5D FC. That little 66 5B > 5C > 2C > 3C > Musou/Sekka extender doesn't really seem worth it to me unless it's for the kill.

[Jourdal]

I'm seeing more 214 whiffs now, shikkoku did CH jC>66 5C>6C>214D(whiff)~C>stuff

I just hope for some development post console...i remember pre console jins were very meter conservative until they realized the joys of ex specials lol.

Edited June 4, 2013 by Jourdal

[Moy_X7]

Got a link to that?

I'd love to confirm anti-air/air hits with 6C > 214D whiff > corner stuff, should do crazy good damage since you still have your freeze to work with.

[Dawn of Musou]

Here Moy: http://youtu.be/NbVgHqCUnk0?t=5m35s

Speaking of whiffs, I noticed that 623D>D Musou>Follow-up doesn't work a lot, the enemy usually winds up being too far away for the D Musou Follow-up to hit. Happened a lot with Ronitta lol.

[Jourdal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NbVgHqCUnk0#t=332s btw this whole round is hilarious