Sunnyday Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Interesting Potemkin Factoids (from GG Judgment): Jam calls him "Pumpkin Buster" for a nickname. (He asks if its a metaphor...hehe.) Chipp just calls him "Gloomy Face". His Barcode ID is # 4595605381, which I believe is the bar code on the CD case for Daisuke's Sheer Heart Attack Album by Queen. Thanks for posting this Blade Pumpkin Buster = LOL
Zazz Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 i been away for a while, so forgive me but have those GG2 artbook stories been translated yet?
Blade Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Nope, sorry Zazz. Though Raging Tofu is almost done with the "good" scans.
SexyMe622 Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Yo guys! I just join this thread. Got any updates about AC + US release dates? Most important of all ! Anybody got any new info. about Dizzy, Maiden of Grove? Any ways..who cares she got a kid or what. SHE'S STILL SEEEEXY! Is there any Dizzy-Lover's like me around ?
RockYou424 Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Well..There's nothing new about her to post...I may be wrong though.... As for Accent Core Plus's release date, it's going to be out in stores some time around March or April...Again, I may be wrong..
Blade Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 I've decided to put people on the same page as me, or at least Close to it as far as Story Knowledge goes. Informative Summary Post Numbah 1. Ky's Ending with Justice Epic Character Summary. (Shining Aquas) GG Timeline Abbridged Links to my fuzzy translation of Justice's AC+ Ending Blade is possessed by Raou, RUN!! Magic/Politics Backdrop Things that DAISUKE wants us to think about. Lightning the Argent/Korean Version Brief incomplete 1st Chapter of LtA (courtesy of Blader Assassin) OMG Blade speculated that Dizzy is Sin's Mom AND a Clone!! People who Blade hates (courtesy Lou Cypher)/(add anti-Wapanese to this list as well) Jesus is NOT Toki and Christmas is NOT his Birthday (but it is Dizzy's Birthday) Brief notes on Guilty Gear Judgment On Gear-cell Containment Axl and Raven part 2 Axl and Raven Quantum Theory Gear Self-Awareness Sol's Headaches Clarifying on Vitae That Man! PUMPKIN BUSTER!!! And last but not least, a list of story links and summaries for people to read/watch that may fill in most if not all the blanks up to this point. Guilty Gear: The Missing Link Guilty Gear X+: By Your Side G. Gear Guilty Gear XX: The Midnight Carnival Guilty Gear X and XX Drama CDs (Does not include Night of Knives) Guilty Gear Quote Project (Self-Plug) Guilty Gear 2: Overture (Youtube Video Playlist) This has been a Public Service by Blade!
Wendy Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=321994&postcount=729 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=342391&postcount=930 zomg. so much info for read. thanks so much blade
Game Master Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 I would consider this a good summary for all the characters: Sol - I'm Running Ky - I'm Following Anji - I'm Bored Baiken - REVENGE! Axl - I'm Lost Faust - I'm Strange Zappa - I'm Stranger May - I'm Obsessive Johnny - "Hiccup" Dizzy - I'm Happy Testament - I'm Sad Bridget - I'm a Dude Jam - I'm Sexy Chipp - I'm Japanese? Potemkin - POT BUSTER! I-no - I'm Rebellious Slayer - I'm just chillin' Venom - ZATO-SAMA Millia - I'm Hunting Eddie - I'm Dead Robo-Ky - I'm Ky (???) Order Sol - I'm-OH SHIT TIME PARADOX A.B.A. - I married a Key. Yep, that seems about right.
Blade Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Holy Inconsistency Batman! Sol, Ky, Dizzy, and a bunch of other character arts from GGX don't match up with the art given as their "GGX Art", including Justice and Kliff's art, Justice's GGX+ art dates back to GG in fact. Lots of GGX and GGXX crossovers abound in production it seems. Not to mention Kliff and Justice have had the same music theme since GGX+
rtl42 Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 looks like i'll have to keep an eye on this thread for a bit. just keep it to story mode guys plzkthx.
Blade Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 Duely noted, rtl42, sir. .... Another tidbit I found in Guilty Gear Judgment the other day, apparently only those of Japanese Ancestry have the power to control the Zessen. This whole Outrage/Jinki thing is starting to become more and more of a mystery to me. Particularly since Frederick built it. And yes, Anji's nickname is Kakukyaku "Glorious", though I dunno what it refers to.
Soryiu Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 anyway....... back on topic: Another thing I'd like to know is wether or not Kilff and Justice's stoy modes in Accent core pluse are hypothetical or retcon? (I dunno, I've only read translations of the dialog since I fail at Japanese. guess I'll have to wait till April (pun intended) to find out)
maraxusofkelds Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 Duely noted, rtl42, sir. .... Another tidbit I found in Guilty Gear Judgment the other day, apparently only those of Japanese Ancestry have the power to control the Zessen. This whole Outrage/Jinki thing is starting to become more and more of a mystery to me. Particularly since Frederick built it. And yes, Anji's nickname is Kakukyaku "Glorious", though I dunno what it refers to. Is judgement even canonical? It seems to throw alot of random crap together. If the outrage can only be controlled by Japs, how come Ky and Sol can? Sol can probably because he is the creator, but ky?
Blade Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 Like I said before regarding the Jinki, there's a lot we don't know. Currently there are only three (3) known Sacred Treasure Wielders. Sol: Firesealed Sword Ky: Thundersealed Sword Anji: Suppression Fans Of those three, I only know a few things: Fireseal has the power to enhance Sol's natural fire elemental ability which under normal circumstances needs to be charged. Equipped with it, Sol can further hone his fire-based attacks and focus on more physical combat without relying on his magic powers as much. To what end this affects his Dragon Install and the Gear Cell Suppression is uncertain, in most recent events we learned that Sol's Dragon Install is corrupting the Limiter, meaning it won't be long before it can no longer help him retain a human form. If Fireseal has something to do with this, we won't know exactly until it is explained. Thunderseal was granted to Ky along with the title of Head Commander of the Sacred Order of Holy Knights. The element of Lightning is considered one of the most unpredictable and difficult to control, and yet somehow Ky is able to utilize it proficiently, such to the effect that he can utilize it with non-deadly force to stun enemies instead of kill them. While his use of the sword seems to grant him great amounts of power, we can't be sure if the sword itself puts him on equal or near equal terms with Sol's power or not (though probably not). We learn in the GGXtra Manga that the Jinki resonate with eachother when a being/Jinki of similar powers has awakened, namely Tyr. Lastly, in something of a key element to the story, Ky sacrifices the powers of the Thunderseal in order to erect a Time Seal around the Maiden of the Grove so as to prevent her full sublimation/disappearance. I'm not entirely sure how this works, but it is because of this that he was able to save his Wife's life. Later on we learn that even though he lost the Thunderseal, his working knowledge of Jinki has afforded him the opportunity to refine his techniques and "customize" the new sword given him known as Aquila. We know next to nothing about this sword except that it seems to conduct powers similar to the Thunderseal which relates back to his style. Not only can he cast healing and defense spells with it, but it seems to afford him much more control over his attacks than before and a wider range of side-step movement, such that he is literally all over the place in his attacks. Suppression Fans (read: Zessen): are known to have been kept in a family of guardians for a time on the Colony. It is here we learn that they utilized the Zessen to erect a special protective barrier around the Colony that prevents certain kinds of gear bodies in space from falling onto the colony, but also seems to create an ideal place for another Jinki (Tyr) to be sealed. Though in truth it would not be long until Anji literally stole the Zessen from their erected place and put them to his own use, thus cancelling the barrier (though a certain item Ky keeps on his person could negate the barrier at any time, I'm not sure what this item is however). We also learn later on that the Zessen have the power to enhance harmonic resonance (read: sound) from beings that emit them, for example singing was able to reach an unstable Tyr who would have destroyed anything around him if not stopped. Finally, what I said before regarding Anji's Japanese Ancestry and how Zessen may or may not be affected by it. To what extent Japanese blood affects the Zessen I can only speculate, or perhaps it was programmed as such by Frederick, such as a security protocol of sorts. While generally speaking, Raymond does not appear canonical, I'm not entirely sure if what he says regarding each character is UNcanonical, as much of what he says has been confirmed previously (such as Potemkin's ID Number). So while the story of Judgment itself might be non-canon, the little tidbits mentioned specifically for each character might actually hold weight later on. So don't rule it out entirely. So exactly what IS OutRage? From what I've learned recently, it is the complete combined form of all 8 Jinki. Though it has a physical form, it also seems to have other forms as well. Frederick built it as both an Anti-Gear weapon, but also to act as a Magic Amplifier, that is to say it enhances innate or natural magic ability, which holds true with the fragments (Jinki) just as the whole OutRage. Frederick built this in response to That Man's distribution of Gear technologies to the various militaries of the world (this before Justice was unleashed upon the world and the Crusades began). While later on we learn that the U.N. broke it up into 8 Jinki and distributed the fragments among the Sacred Order of Holy Knights and others, we don't know how the U.N. was able to obtain it. What's more, the word "OutRage" has appeared in many instances in relation to Gear manufacturing plants. In particular, the chambers in which Gears were created have the word OutRage on them, and even more peculiar is the fact that Dizzy has a unique ring of magic that floats around her that bears her name, gearmark, and the word OutRage in it. What this means in relation to the OutRage that Frederick constructed as opposed to the Gears created by That Man, I have no idea. ----- My speculation regarding this, is that the OutRage was created with a certain construction theory of Magic Amplification in mind. While the Jinki fragments themselves seem to grant powers that exceed basic Gear magic powers, they seem to be put on equal terms with Command Type gears in terms of support and enhancement. Specifically regarding Dizzy, it is pointed out she has the ability to revive downed Gears. While this may or may not be related to OutRage, the possibility is still there. At this point, OutRage covers a huge spectrum of magic elements and chords of varying degress, but such complexity as Gear Sublimation appears to exceed the limits of what individual Jinki can perform as we see with the Thunderseal's disappearance. Only time will tell if we learn more about the OutRage and the parts and meaning behind it.
DonMungMung Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 Ahaha, I just noticed the tags. Hilarious! But waitaminute, Tyr's a Jinki?
Blade Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 Actually I'm not 100% sure on that. Tyr is a being associated with Fenrir who bit off his arm and merged with it. About all we know is that his presence has interacted with Jinki in some way.
Zazz Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 i'm under the impression that the Outrage WAS going to be a major storyline theme but was discarded and written out and retconned into dust i've got no proof of this but it seems now the Sacred Treasures are just a special class (related or not) of just REALLY REALLY powerful magic based weaponry
Blade Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 Sacred Treasures is just another name for Jinki "Divine Instrument" if you've been following context. As for the whole retcon thing...people only started saying that when they mistook GGX and XX for a retcon from one of Daisuke's interviews. If it were a retcon it wouldn't have its own section in the GG Bible which was fairly explicit and Timeline Specific, and he would've said something officially about it by now, even in the 50 Question Interview. I said this before "Gaiden" = "Sidestory that is TRUE until the Author says it isn't." The Bible was released in 1998, two years before GGX was released. That should tell you something about how much impact the story info has on game releases and why it's too soon to say it's a retcon when we don't really know. I think if we hear of any sort of retcon about it, it will be in the upcoming Anniversary mook.
Neuro Chaos Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 At least it's got SOMETHING going for it. ZING!
Blade Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 If all you're going to post is insults regarding this thread, don't bother posting. Neuro Chaos, you've been especially "troll-some" with me lately? You got something to say you PM me don't drag others into your mood.
Adelheid Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Really blade, you are being a bit too serious about this. We're not trying to troll you, but this thread really has taken a turn for the... Amusing. Its fantasticness exploded when thread tags were suddenly implemented. Edit: This thread is boring again I really hope tags didn't get removed because of this thread
sweetvids Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 You gotta calm down Blade. I only recall the one comment about Testament being a gear and Justice which you then blew it all out of proportion and "insisted" on correcting him with the correct story, which then other people started bashing you, not him. :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
DonMungMung Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 Man, I really want to read the manga, I really do, but the art style just kills me. Titties 'n ass are great things, but they were drawn so poorly and the facial expressions painfully comical I just couldn't look at it anymore. And the "story"? Sheesh, they shoulda just used the drama CDs for plot. That way, even if it sucks, they didn't spend any manpower on creating a script I think if we hear of any sort of retcon about it, it will be in the upcoming Anniversary mook. it will be in the upcoming Anniversary mook. Anniversary mook. What Also, this thread hasn't gotten any worse. Need I remind everyone of the first post? do you like discussing character stories in the game or make up some fun fan theories?? go here and get to talk with other people who have a total interest in Guilty Gear like you! C'mon guys, it just got really REALLY good, then back to normal =/ Bringing back a super old topic, what living human do you think has the most potential? Some people mentioned how Chipp can use Ki, even though he was a drug-addict and non-Japanese (...maybe this just proves the theory that there's something in Japan's water supply). I've always gotten the impression that Ki's very difficult to master (less than electricity though?), and the fact that he learned it when he was a teenager is kinda interestin' too. If there ever is an anime, I want a scene where Ky bugs Chipp to learn to control Ki ahahahahaha
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