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[Calamitus]

Interview with Lucien Dodge, the Voice of Guilty Gear’s Sin Kiske.

 

[Steve-Fiction]

28 minutes ago, Calamitus said:

Interview with Lucien Dodge, the Voice of Guilty Gear’s Sin Kiske.

What a fantastic read.

Now that I know that Hifumi and Sin are voiced by the same person, I'm imagining Sin shouting stuff like "I am the Omega!" in a silly voice.

But I think a lot of the problems of Sign's dub became clear in that interview.

[Hero19]

Ragna English VA on twitter apparently hasn't been contacting in regards to dubbing Central Fiction. We may not get a dub for this work despite the hard work the english VA's  put into this work for so many years. Arc System Works and Aksys still remain to be quiet on the matter of people asking if the english dub is going to be there.

[JRH]

Have patience with them, I am sure they know it will be a big blow to their company if they cut out the dub so they are either taking their time and getting the dub done faster or choosing to be quiet about it because they feel they are not ready to reveal it yet.

[Hero19]

7 minutes ago, JRH said:

Have patience with them, I am sure they know it will be a big blow to their company if they cut out the dub so they are either taking their time and getting the dub done faster or choosing to be quiet about it because they feel they are not ready to reveal it yet.

The fact that Ragna VA has stated he hasn't even got contacted yet means the dub hasn't even began to get started yet. We only got so much time in regards to CF JP release in October. if the battle voices aren't even done yet for that release then it most likely isn't going to be getting dub at all since the english voice audio files are required for the JP release for when JP players fight against EN players that use the english audio. With how they handle the matter of Revelator not having a dub  i don't have much trust in them.

[Vulcan422]

I'll just keep holding my breath. Remember CP? They withheld info on the dub for that game completely and we had to wait for the Japanese release to see if it had English audio. Sure enough, it did.

[MaximusMurkimus]

True, but there was also a 5 month gap between the English and Japanese dub. Patrick Seitz not knowing anything about it is also disconcerning news, since you would assume they would be recording it now, especially since the story mode is apparently 3x as long.

Honestly, the lack of a dub messed with my experience reading/watching through XBlaze, and since BB is much more popular I would be absolutely ticked if they were not gonna do it. I learned about some of my favorite VAs by first hearing them in BB, and some of the new characters like Izanami and Hibiki would be really amazing to hear in their more active roles. 

Hell, I would pay for English system voices, too. Persona 4 Arena had them via Navigators, and it made the experience much more enjoyable.

[Hero19]

4 hours ago, Vulcan422 said:

I'll just keep holding my breath. Remember CP? They withheld info on the dub for that game completely and we had to wait for the Japanese release to see if it had English audio. Sure enough, it did.

 

We can be optimistic about it all we want but ever since Arc System Works has taken over they be trying to cut corners whatever way they can.  We wouldn't had gotten CP Library translated if it wasn't for people complaining to them about it. . Revelator they chose to keep quiet in regards to the news of anything about the dub until ask in a conference about it a  week before the game came out in the U.S. With the amount of Dialogue this game has and the amount of people they have to contact to make sessions to the dub the game it would take a while for the dub to be complete. Since it hasn't been started yet and the game is probably almost near it's completion on the JP side for it's release in october in which they may start shipping out the game sometime in September to make sure the stores have the game on time  it doesn't  leave much recording time. Especially if they still plan on releasing the game in the fall.

 

Edit: Noel english VA hasn't be contacted either.

[MaximusMurkimus]

Honestly, this would just be one more thing for them to sell to us with the Extend version. They don't even have the "but we need this ASAP for that EVO HYPE" excuse since they're releasing it during the off season, as well.

As much as I've been waiting for this game, it would simply be a matter of people going "lolnope" and buying the game secondhand for them to realize they screwed up and drop a patch.

[Hero19]

14 minutes ago, MaximusMurkimus said:

Honestly, this would just be one more thing for them to sell to us with the Extend version. They don't even have the "but we need this ASAP for that EVO HYPE" excuse since they're releasing it during the off season, as well.

As much as I've been waiting for this game, it would simply be a matter of people going "lolnope" and buying the game secondhand for them to realize they screwed up and drop a patch.

We shouldn't have to think about an Extend version even coming for the dub to be there in the first place. To consistently have releases with it to suddenly stopping near the end without any talk about it  is bullshit to the fans who support this series  for so many years no matter what way you take it. I already planned on buying it used if they choose not to dub this game. The US branch can go screw themselves if they think fans should just roll over to whatever decisions they make without any consequences. if I want to support Mori and Daisuke then I'm just going to have to import the JP copy to show them that.

 

Edit: I got into Blazblue because of the dub cast when I saw Calamity Trigger Story Mode of Seitz playing as Ragna. That was enough for me to look at the other cast  story modes and eventually get into blazblue. To have no dub to me is to deny what got me into the series in the first place.

[Vulcan422]

Usually they have the dubbed battle voices recorded first for the JP release, then they actually start dubbing and implementing the story-related dialogue with the English version.

[Hero19]

11 minutes ago, Vulcan422 said:

Usually they have the dubbed battle voices recorded first for the JP release, then they actually start dubbing and implementing the story-related dialogue with the English version.

That's what I said earlier. If they haven't started on that yet then they wouldn't have starting on anything regarding the story mode. Plus, they have to get new actors for Naoto and possibly Es since we have no English VA for them at all. Their is so little time left in regards to calling up VA's to possibly do sessions for this game for the JP release that I doubt they would have the time to do all that. Especially since we don't know right now the schedule of all the other VA;s and if they would be available to even being able to do it. Arc System Works knew that yet still chose to keep quiet about it despite people asking these past months about it. They probably wanted to wait until everything is already done to announce their is no dub so that people who tried to complain about it would already be too late to effect their decision. It's a scumbag move.

[MaximusMurkimus]

Devil's advocate, maybe the Japanese dub isn't finished yet (story edits, sequencing) and that's why they're waiting to finish that before calling in the English ones? Maybe they're planning on releasing it as a day-one patch and that's why they're in no rush to finish the rest of the game?

After Regulator, I'm sure they're gonna want to avoid the same backlash. or not, because all the pro players are gonna come out going "who cares really" and ASW is gonna listen to them first and foremost.

tbh, I don't think most Japanese companies care about dubs. Dynasty Warriors 8 almost didn't get dubbed until there was an overwhemingly negative response, and even then, it's the only one in the Warriors series to remain dubbed. 

I tolerated XBlaze because it was short and niche as it was, but if I'm supposed to sit through 40 hours of mind-warping bullshit then at least give me 40 hours of it in a language I can understand.

[Hero19]

16 minutes ago, MaximusMurkimus said:

Devil's advocate, maybe the Japanese dub isn't finished yet (story edits, sequencing) and that's why they're waiting to finish that before calling in the English ones? Maybe they're planning on releasing it as a day-one patch and that's why they're in no rush to finish the rest of the game?

After Regulator, I'm sure they're gonna want to avoid the same backlash. or not, because all the pro players are gonna come out going "who cares really" and ASW is gonna listen to them first and foremost.

The story recording  for the Japanese dub should had been finish probably sometime around March or April since that's when Rachel JP VA posted about recording the story script on her blog if I remember correctly. They had plenty of time to get at least somewhat get started at least with the arcade quotes.  I doubt they going to do a patch because they never done so far except for the Vita version which may had to do with the memory issue.  With Revelator they could have a good excuse of not included it because of people mixed reactions on the dub and the story dlc issue the game came out with. Which would cost  a lot of money to set up sessions to get the VA's back together to record the other half of the story. In Central Fiction case their is literally no excuse for no dub this time. Them not having a dub this time is purely to cut corners.

[MaximusMurkimus]

Seems like Cristina Vee and David Vincent (Noel and Jin) are also in the dark as well.

Does ASW have a social media presence? Maybe people can get REALLY passionate and they'll respond in some way or form.

[Hero19]

15 minutes ago, MaximusMurkimus said:

Seems like Cristina Vee and David Vincent (Noel and Jin) are also in the dark as well.

Does ASW have a social media presence? Maybe people can get REALLY passionate and they'll respond in some way or form.

ArcSystemWorksU, Aksysgames, and AllAksys is the three twitter accounts you can tried asking about the dub. People been asking for a while when CF stuff comes out on their twitter on the dub yet they been pretending to not see it all this time.  Heck even on the latest trailer just release saying that the game coming out in the fall has comments on the dub which they still refuse to answer.

[kosmos badgirl]

15 hours ago, Hero19 said:

Ragna English VA on twitter apparently hasn't been contacting in regards to dubbing Central Fiction. We may not get a dub for this work despite the hard work the english VA's  put into this work for so many years. Arc System Works and Aksys still remain to be quiet on the matter of people asking if the english dub is going to be there.

I was expecting they could afford it because BB sells better than GG but maybe sales declined with the last BB games in NA?, or because this is the BB game with more lines of text is not longer profitable to dub it?.

 

[Blade]

Well, since people seem to be worried, I'll just say this:

Testing the market for feedback on something like Voice Acting seems feasible at this point, so if they get that big a backlash, they'll try and do something about it.

I'm not worried about GGXrd's future installments because the series is far from over anyway.

BlazBlue's another matter though, and it would be sad for them not to include a dub after being consistent for so long.

And hey, it's not the end of the world... there is such a thing as adding a Dub post-release as a patch.

Just keep bugging ARCSys and Strangely Compelling (the guys who run ARC's PR media here in the U.S.) and something just might happen!

[Calamitus]

20 minutes ago, kosmos badgirl said:

I was expecting they could afford it because BB sells better than GG but maybe sales declined with the last BB games in NA?, or because this is the BB game with more lines of text is not longer profitable to dub it?.

They have to dub 90+ arcade stories plus the story mode with 33+ characters (that's without NPC). It sounds like a financial suicide for a niche company to me.

[Hero19]

44 minutes ago, Calamitus said:

They have to dub 90+ arcade stories plus the story mode with 33+ characters (that's without NPC). It sounds like a financial suicide for a niche company to me.

Even if that is true. Doing radio silence until when the game release to say that the dub isn't there without any reason at all explained to the fans is disrespectful to the fans. They got let off easy with Revelator because Guilty Gear is a series that never had a dub for a long time to the extent like Blazblue.  Blazblue has been going on for far too long for them to think people would be stupid to not notice if a dub may not be happening after all these years. They should say something at least to those fans  that have been supporting the series because of the dub over these past six years at least.  To continue to ignore those fans feedback despite being told about it is indeed a scumbag move for a company to do. I don't like being seen as a wallet that should take whatever I'm giving without no questions ask.

[Finuve]

I cancelled my exist archive preorder. Figured I might as well go all the way in not supporting english aksys/ASW. I'll import BBCF. I can't not play the game, but this would be absolutely devastating to my efforts to really put the time in, as I wouldnt even bother with story mode, and training sessions would blow hearing the awful JP noel instead of Cristina Vee

[Vulcan422]

Watch them finally come out and say something to this effect.

"There's no English dub for Central Fiction or Revelator because it fucks up the online play, adding significant frame delay."

If you guys remember, this actually did happen in Sign when it got released initially. If this really is the case, they still have no reason to do this because they patched Sign so that you couldn't hear the opponent's voice options. Only yours. And it still managed to function well.

Another potential reason there may not be a dub, and this one is extremely farfetched, is that the localization team is filled with sub purists who purposefully don't want the game to be dubbed. This also allows them to cut corners on actual localization and just directly translate stuff from the original Japanese text with minimal effort. Revelator's localization is evidence enough. That script is filled with all sorts of punctuation errors and unnatural dialogue.

[Luminos564]

In fairness, GG Xrd SIGN's dubbing was...not very good. It was filled with more hit-and-misses than your local baseball team. For every Sean Connery Slayer, we had a gravel-munching Sol. For every Elphelt we had a perma-raspy Venom. For every Zato we got monotone Ramlethal. Which isn't to say it was the VA's fault as chances are the direction is more to blame. For what it's worth, Revelator being Japanese language only at the least provides consistency. Am I sad to see English Elphelt gone? Or that I'll never get to hear Dizzy in English? You bet your Roman Cancel I am. But at the same time, it wasn't that big a deal since I grew up with Guilty Gear back when it had no dubbing done so it was a more easy thing to adjust to.

However, Blazblue is another story. That series started with dual audio in the localized versions. To not include it in what is the penultimate chapter for one of the characters is...well, a mighty fine disappointment. I'm sure the game will be great and everything but the story spanned some 7 years already. We've consistently had English dubbing 7 straight years. And now all of a sudden you stop? That's bound to raise a few vocal chords.

[Zazz]

30 minutes ago, Luminos564 said:

In fairness, GG Xrd SIGN's dubbing was...not very good. It was filled with more hit-and-misses than your local baseball team. For every Sean Connery Slayer, we had a gravel-munching Sol. For every Elphelt we had a perma-raspy Venom. For every Zato we got monotone Ramlethal. Which isn't to say it was the VA's fault as chances are the direction is more to blame. For what it's worth, Revelator being Japanese language only at the least provides consistency. Am I sad to see English Elphelt gone? Or that I'll never get to hear Dizzy in English? You bet your Roman Cancel I am. But at the same time, it wasn't that big a deal since I grew up with Guilty Gear back when it had no dubbing done so it was a more easy thing to adjust to.

I always thought Ram was supposed to be monotone. She doesn't get any sort of real emotions until the end when Elph gets stolen. Sol was a big miss, especially since he's the most important guy in the story. Oddly enough he was fine during the flashbacks as Fred.

Also we did hear Dizzy. It was that short bit, but it was good.

[Hero19]

24 minutes ago, Zazz said:

I always thought Ram was supposed to be monotone. She doesn't get any sort of real emotions until the end when Elph gets stolen. Sol was a big miss, especially since he's the most important guy in the story. Oddly enough he was fine during the flashbacks as Fred.

Also we did hear Dizzy. It was that short bit, but it was good.

Ram is suppose to monotone but slowly began to show emotions overtime. The problem is that how the performance may work in Japanese isn't going to translate well when work in English because of the Language Barrier , Vocal Directions, etc..

I think if given more time the dub could be even better but it's obvious that the dub was most likely rush. The fact their were some very good performances  despite that really goes to the talent of those Voice Actors.