Accent Core : Zappa

[Oiboi]

Yep, May 31. Slashbacking Unblockables suddenly made this game a lot crazier, I think... Hard to say if it's gonna work right or just break the game. Either way, this gives everyone a lot more options.

[Zeero]

Didnt he say that we cant slashback on wakeup so wakeup biteloop is still ok?? Actually this is kinda nice... at least it wont be rigged... then again eddie is hax -_-

[Cyringohn]

Yep, May 31. Slashbacking Unblockables suddenly made this game a lot crazier, I think... Hard to say if it's gonna work right or just break the game.

Not likely. Slashback requires that you, you know, don't mess up. Or you eat a combo.

[Zeero]

Its kind of easy to see Zappa's 2D coming... considering how the dog takes a while to open up its huge mouth, and also a while to chomp on its meal... However, the 2D unblockable is different from the 4DD 2K unblockable (even tho nobody does this)... does SB actually block that unblockable too?

[Zerite]

How could it possibly break the game? It just reduces the powerlevel of unblockables and all those other things you can easily see coming.

[Zoogstin]

Its kind of easy to see Zappa's 2D coming... considering how the dog takes a while to open up its huge mouth, and also a while to chomp on its meal...

However, the 2D unblockable is different from the 4DD 2K unblockable (even tho nobody does this)... does SB actually block that unblockable too?

No. You would have to slash back both attacks and I doubt anyone could slash back twice in just 2 or so frames. =/

[Zoogstin]

ZAPPA IS B-!!! Assuming that the scores for the rankings are correct.... =/ Theres a bit of controversy

:ZA:

[Dangief]

ZA|4.5|5.0|6.0|4.5|4.0|4.5|5.0|5.0|4.5|5.0|5.5|4.5 |5.0|5.0|4.0|5.0|5.0|6.0|-.-|4.5|6.0|5.5|4.5|　108.5 (-01.5) Zappa I don't remember which matchups are which, but this is Zappa row from the matchup chart... and HE HAS FAVORABLE MATCHUPS!!!! In fact, overall he just below being even. That is fantastic. It means that whatever it was that he got in AC, it made him an all-around solid character at last. Zappa once again owns souls for free!

[Zoogstin]

Seriously. I think that was the whole point of Zappa when the developers made him, its just that something went horribly wrong and he kind of sucked. But now its on!!!!! He had so many bad matchups and, like you said, now he's almost even. I partly believe its the fact that all of his summons got a boost and the nerfs that the other characters got. Zappa got very few nerfs. :grin: He just looks so fun to play its ridiculous.

[lasttyrant]

I'm so happy right now :D It seems that Zappa has finally got the improvements I was longing for ever since I accidentally made him my main character and decided to stick to him. Still, he will have to struggle with bullshit like having virtually no wakeup move (excluding Last Edguy or backdash maybe?) or inability to deal sick damage (excluding Raoh), but now he has got a poke to be feared, which is his unsummon fS, and a new ways to mix up the opponent and summon Raoh quicker, thanks to his FB. As for his summons, while not much can be said about the Dog having only seen lots of match videos, and triplet seems to be more or less the same (with the addition of a new ghost toss which apparently makes a solid meaty attack), the sword is way better. It seems to deal more consistent damage with the new 63214H, and I just can't wait to try out the aerial special and 236S FRC. Well, and Raoh doesn't seem to be nerfed at all - more new combos instead of the old Raoh combo, sick jH properties and even better zoning thanks to the new Dark Anthems. Zappa, you've certainly come a long way. But maybe I should say that after I've actually played Ac for some time lol Oh and yeah, his sweep has now 12F startup (in / it was 13F). This is why 2D can combo after 2K now even on standing opponent.

[Cyringohn]

Seriously. I think that was the whole point of Zappa when the developers made him, its just that something went horribly wrong and he kind of sucked. But now its on!!!!!

He had so many bad matchups and, like you said, now he's almost even. I partly believe its the fact that all of his summons got a boost and the nerfs that the other characters got. Zappa got very few nerfs. :grin:

He just looks so fun to play its ridiculous.

That's because he can actually combo now. In Guilty Gear XX, he barely had any decent combos or pressure strings to speak off. The Sword was worthless and Triplet was very limited; Dog's infinites are the only bright side of Zappa back then.

Fuck, 2K into 2D is an enormous improvement, in general.

[Pezzuti]

Hey guys, I've noticed something that seems new... Sword's j.HS now has a FRC! Did you see that?

[amishrolf]

Hey guys, I've noticed something that seems new... Sword's j.HS now has a FRC! Did you see that?

that's been around since Slash i believe. i dont recall it being in Reload, but it isnt new

[Zoogstin]

It first premiered in Slash. But the difference between it and AC is that the FRC is sooner now so you can actually combo off of it. In slash the FRC point was too late in the attack to be worth anything besides canceling the recovery. In AC I've seen it used for ji combos and crossups.

[amishrolf]

how soon are we talking about? and on a side note, i agree with your sig. Raou is love. and pain.

[Zoogstin]

Thanks :grin: I can't really give specifics but its right after the sword hits. A combo I saw involved a jHS->FRC->jc.S into the rest of the combo. I don't think that is possible in Slash at all.

[Dangief]

Seriosly, I'm so happy that you can 2k into sweep. It was such a pain to not be able to to combo into sweep then summon without a hit that made the pushback to much to do anything. And a for real jH Sword FRC is butter.

[Zoogstin]

has some BB's now yay!!! And yeah I would say that 2k into sweep is perhaps 's best improvement.

[Cyringohn]

Definitely. 2K -> 2D is a fuckin' miracle. That, and with how pimp his f.5S is now, it's almost like playing a whole new character.

[Pezzuti]

Zappa's 6P has some invulnerability, but it's kinda hard to use it, I believe. I tried to use it as an anti-air a few times, and all of them were frustated. One good "not linked" combo (don't know if that's what you guys call a STRING) I've noticed in one of ABE's matches: ©.S, 2HS, 6P, (f).S It was a corner pression, after dog's double attack. That kind of bought time for the dog to recover and keep the pression on. Very good indeed, and I don't know if that's possible in / 'cause in AC (f).S is bigger right?

[Zoogstin]

It works in slash as well. I would recommend using it to provide time for the dog to recover from its huge knock backs from 6D and 4D D.

[Cyringohn]

Zappa, apparently, has one of the best 6P in the game, but his odd height and positioning makes it hard to figure out. There's a list somewhere around here that details all the surprising things that Zappa's 6P can defeat.

[Dangief]

Zappa's 6P rules. Seriously, it's difficult to use as an AA (but unbeatable if you do) but that thing will just go right through so many other good pokes that it isn't even right. And with KD on CH, you get a 2HS into orbs or big damage. Zappa's hit-box is way back at his knees, and that hand leads it by a mile. Once inv. frames kick in that thing almost always wins.

[Zoogstin]

If you've seen one of the recent Zappa combo videos 6Pxx632146HS makes Zappa S-tier for 3 seconds (WOW!!!! A whole Darkness Angel goes right through him!!!). :grin: My only gripe with 6P however, is that the invincibility doesn't come until a bit after the move starts. its not immediate. This sucks for when he's facing characters who have a good block string going that has frame traps in them. :blue:

[axel]

The most recent a-cho match video featuring TOMOI's Zappa: The dog actually dive from midscreen straight to the corner on hit! 2P, 2K, 5D, 2K, c.S, 2HS, 6D+6HS, 6D while the dog is flipping backwards, straight to the corner for more pressure game! Inu no TOMOI indeed!