Ehecatl Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I'm going by her arcade ending in which she states the same thing but in a very (don't really give a fuck about Ragna) kind of way. Again you're inferring based on a translation. And even so you know very well what she states and what she actually feels don't usually coincide. She's also known to withhold information and appear cold at a glance. She tends to save her more insecure or emotional moments for when in company she trusts Try not to jump to conclusions especially with Rachel. Things are never so simple.
floatwater Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 We're all aware about her insane love towards Ragna. hence the kill me so I can be with him.
Ehecatl Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 We're all aware about her insane love towards Ragna. hence the kill me so I can be with him. I am not entirely certain that is because of her love for him. In fact, I'd wager there's more to it than that.
Luminos564 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Alright CP, I need you first calm down and take your meds. You're clearly not your usual self. I mean, you were always on the edge of "WTH" but this is really pushing it. [End joke]. Anyway, Izanami not having "time" makes sense if you think about it. If "she" is an entity of death, then the concept of time passing (or being destroyed) is worthless to "her". Go figure. Haku-men's "time killer" boss-specific skill has a valid explanation for not working on the Imperator (well besides the obvious "We need her for BB4"). And I am most excited for "Beast" Ragna that unwillingly beat down Jin and Noel then disappeared (please tell me there is an image out the somewhere). Jin's beating was to be expected since he cannot spend one damn game without getting trounced by SOMEONE after he has his moment to shine. Noel though . Poor thing can catch a break (much like how Ragna cannot either).
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 So....Ragna is now just a mindless beast running around that either Jin or Tsubaki have to kill? Yo...Ragna...dude, I feel so sorry for you.
Luminos564 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 So....Ragna is now just a mindless beast running around that either Jin or Tsubaki have to kill? Yo...Ragna...dude, I feel so sorry for you. What's worse, according to Rachel, he's going to die soon anyway. So take your pick: >Death by sibling. >Death by sibling's possible love interest. >Death by your biological clock running out no matter what you do.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Its like no matter what he does, the world is determined to fuck him over.
Zedar90 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I tried to translate the dialog in the end between Izanami and Rachel: Izanami: Master unit Amaterasu, How many times do you have to repeat this stupid dream(nightmare) until you are satisfied... It's to bad that your destruction could not be made. The entertainment is over. Lets start the ceremony. Full fill your true roll ”Giant” The ”sin” that man created... make the giant that should be avoided into a yorishiro, and collect the old seithr(world), an become a vessel that give birth to the new seithr(world), Embryo(embryo of azure) Destructionday became God Return. Only the ”qualified ones” that was chosen by the Azure may stay. ”Tsukiyomi”, It is time for the decision. Full fill your roll. Rachel: Tsukiyomi Unit. Protect Master Unit. Izanami: Is that your decision Rachel: Isn't if obvious? As long as ”she” remains. The world can be reconstructed from her memories. To save ”her”, is the only left ”hope” for ”us” in this mad world. Izanami: Haven't given up even tough it have been repeated for so many times. Rachel: Even tough it is so boring and so very ugly, I ”love” this world. Izanami: An ”existence” like you to talking about ”love”... I cant even find the words to say. Well than, you can seek it as well, The embryo, the thing that give birth to Azure, The true Blazblue! Rachel: Don't worry, I will defeat you and get hold of it, Meiou Izanami. Izanami: Even I cant touch Amaterasu who is protected by Tsukiyomi. However if all the ”Qualified ones” disappears, It is my ”victory”. The Black Beast will consume all, and the world will return to nothingness. That is my desire, ”Nothingness” that will end all. Rachel Alucard, I will for sure give you ”death” Rachel: And i will give you ”life” as a present. And you will end. Izanami: Is that so, I look forward to it. Well then, lets start the demise.
floatwater Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 It feels like we're traveling to Persona 4 territory with the Izanami thing
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Something funny how the main conflict is between two little girls.
Ehecatl Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 That exchange is going to be badass when the game comes out here in the states.
Kishido Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 First of all Hi at all... I'm new here around. Reading this thread I seriously got some headache... So confusing... But somehow awesome as well. But could someone answer me what Hazama and/or Terumi are doing in this one... Are they seperate beings/bodies as it seems in one of the endings or are they really oen and the same person in this game... Cuz even if Hakumen killed Terumi... There still would be Hazama around. Thank you in advance
Myoro Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 It feels like we're traveling to Persona 4 territory with the Izanami thing Naw man, it's just reccuring names in Japanese mythos. For instance, "Takemikatsuchi" is the name of the Gigant and Kanji's persona, because it was a giant in Japanese mythos. "The Susano'O" was the world's mightiest warrior and a servant of "Amaterasu" the sun god. "Izanami" was the godess of death and is essentially portrayed as such in BB and P4. "Kusanagi" and I believe "Murakumo" are god slaying blades, you can also get blades of these names in disgaea 1. I think "Tsukiyomi" is the shield that the Susano'O used that could block anything.
Myoro Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 First of all Hi at all... I'm new here around. Reading this thread I seriously got some headache... So confusing... But somehow awesome as well. But could someone answer me what Hazama and/or Terumi are doing in this one... Are they seperate beings/bodies as it seems in one of the endings or are they really oen and the same person in this game... Cuz even if Hakumen killed Terumi... There still would be Hazama around. Thank you in advance There's alot of confusion on this point. All I personally know is that in Terumi's arcade end he's confronted by Trinity, who materializes what looks like Hazama in his old suit, and for some reason that makes him mortal... I'm wondering if the person she summons is Kazuma, (the person hazama was before Terumi possessed the body he currently inhabits.) but it does not seem to be that way. (though that'd be a really cool plot twist.)
Kishido Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Yeah would be cool... But still so confusing... Just think about an other BlazBlue without master troll Hazama
TPPR10 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 We have a seprate thread for spectulations. Bring them there, not here.
cr1ms0n Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I nearly forgot about Homura. What happens to him anyways?
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 And on that note, Bang as well. Haven't heard much about him either.
raziel12 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 i dont know why but the ending kinda pissed me off for some reason now we wait for the state verison and 2 to 3 years for a sequel lol
Zedar90 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I nearly forgot about Homura. What happens to him anyways? Before Izanami summouns the Master Unit, she turns up at the place where Kagura, Jin and Homura is and announces to the entire world that Homura is the new Impertrator. And on that note, Bang as well. Haven't heard much about him either. During the time Jin, Ragna and Noel fights Take-mikazuchi Bang, Makot and Tsubaki fight against Relius, Litchi and Carl. Bang is trying to activate the Lynchpin with Retenjou but Relius tries to stop him. Bang is able to get ontop the lynchpin and he and the lynchpin is transformed above the monolith. Bang takes his Retenjou hamers it in to the Lynchpin to activate it.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 And this is all during the True Ending right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
SolxBaiken Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 >Jin vs Hakumen >>Blood Pain plays >>>! They finally did it~
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 >Jin vs Hakumen >>Blood Pain plays >>>! They finally did it~ Lol I know right. And oh my gerd, Black & White is SO much better without the fucking childish laughter.
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