Chrono Phantasma Speculations/Theories [rules updated 10/14]

[Yazumatto]

Everyone in BB is criminal scum. Even the people in the "government organizations" are criminal scum. It's kinda funny when you think about it.

[Shinhwa]

at least Hazama and relius get wrecked.

Relius still has a chance to redeem himself for what he has done. Hazama is MIA. Some people say he is dead, some say it's not possible due to the Life Link with Noel. I don't know. Mori's choice whether he wants to keep him alive or not (well he is the most popular male character in BB right now...)

[Toxin45]

Relius still has a chance to redeem himself for what he has done. Hazama is MIA. Some people say he is dead, some say it's not possible due to the Life Link with Noel. I don't know. Mori's choice whether he wants to keep him alive or not (well he is the most popular male character in BB right now...)

but doesn't Okami kill immortals and Izayoi is designed to kill observers with their technique of Immortal breaker and Time Killer wouldn't that mean that it would also sever life links?

[Master Of Chaos]

It doesn't. That's why they had to separate Hazama and Terumi in the story, cause they couldn't kill Terumi while he was inside Hazzie and Hazzie had the life link. That's how it went, I think...

[Shinhwa]

As Zedar said before, it was Hazama who had life link with Noel and not Terumi. Ookami and Sealed Weapon Izayoi can kill immortals and can bypass Life Link's effect pretty much.

[Toxin45]

Izanami using Terumi and Relius as pawns are similiar to person 4's Izaznami and her pawns.

[Master Of Chaos]

As Zedar said before, it was Hazama who had life link with Noel and not Terumi.

I know that. I've been saying that. I have not said anything to the contrary. Hazama has the life link. It protects him. It doesn't protect Terumi. That's why Platinum had to switch them around, right? Because Hazama was the "outer" and the one they could reach. They couldn't reach Terumi, who was the "inner", because Hazama was in the way. Is this not correct?

Ookami and Sealed Weapon Izayoi can kill immortals and can bypass Life Link's effect pretty much.

To my understanding you are right about Ookami being able to kill mortals, but where does it say that it can bypass Life Link effects? Didn't Hazama fight Hakumen in Six Heroes, get beaten down, and got right back up because the life link reversed the lethal damage?

[Shinhwa]

I meant that the user has to use the respective ability such as Time Killer and Immortal breaker...

[churchblue]

It would cool if Tsubaki use Ookami with Izayoi. Can't wait for the CP extension next year. I wonder how many they're going to make. Really looking forward to seeing how Mai is doing in the present.

[Alpha to Omega]

I meant that the user has to use the respective ability such as Time Killer and Immortal breaker...

Isn't Time Killer from the Susano'o Unit and not Ookami? AFAIK Ookami doesn't have any powers aside from negating Ars Magus since the core was removed.

[Shinhwa]

Isn't Time Killer from the Susano'o Unit and not Ookami? AFAIK Ookami doesn't have any powers aside from negating Ars Magus since the core was removed.

I don't know, they said it is a sword that cuts time... even Izanami said that. @_@

[Zedar90]

I don't know, they said it is a sword that cuts time... even Izanami said that. @_@

Time killer that Hakumen uses is a skill.

郷間滅殺(Gouma messatsu, World-destroying Demon annihilation) 虚空陣奥義(Kokuujin Ougi, Void Formation Secret Skill) 刻殺(Toki Goroshi, Time Killer)

[Shinhwa]

Yeah I know it is a skill but what's up with Izanami saying it is a sword that kills time? =w=;;

[Zedar90]

Yeah I know it is a skill but what's up with Izanami saying it is a sword that kills time? =w=;;

Isn't it because Susanoo Unit is Amaterasus "sword" like tsukiyomi Unit is her "shield"?

[Shinhwa]

Isn't it because Susanoo Unit is Amaterasus "sword" like tsukiyomi Unit is her "shield"?

I... guess? I know Susano'o unit is mainly the one that cuts time. Izanami's way of saying was confusing kind of lol.

When she said that after Hakumen tried to kill her, even I was like "huh? I thought Susano'o unit was the one that kills time. Not Ookami O_o"

[Zedar90]

I... guess? I know Susano'o unit is mainly the one that cuts time. Izanami's way of saying was confusing kind of lol.

When she said that after Hakumen tried to kill her, even I was like "huh? I thought Susano'o unit was the one that kills time. Not Ookami O_o"

I just thought that "sword that kills time" is a title for Susanoo Unit.

Almost the same as Nu's title is "Sword of Izanami" and Noel's(Mu) title is "Sword of MURAKUMO".

[Shinhwa]

I just thought that "sword that kills time" is a title for Susanoo Unit.

Almost the same as Nu's title is "Sword of Izanami" and Noel's(Mu) title is "Sword of MURAKUMO".

Kami Goroshi no Tsurugi yeah lol

But why is Nu Sword of Izanami in the first place...? =_=;; What even had her earn that title?

Actually if you put it that way, I guess it makes sense.

[Zedar90]

Kami Goroshi no Tsurugi yeah lol

But why is Nu Sword of Izanami in the first place...? =_=;; What even had her earn that title?

Actually if you put it that way, I guess it makes sense.

Because she was tuned to fit Izanami's needs? Izanami even said "So, my sword has come" when Nu arrived to the top of the Monolith.

[Shinhwa]

Because she was tuned to fit Izanami's needs? Izanami even said "So, my sword has come" when Nu arrived to the top of the Monolith.

Yeah... it's just that... unlike Noel/Mu-12 who earned the title because of her abilities, Nu just got that title when she doesn't have a special ability like Mu-12 =w=; Nu needs to stop being her sword though D:

How about she becomes Bloodedge no Tsurugi instead? XD

[Zedar90]

Yeah... it's just that... unlike Noel/Mu-12 who earned the title because of her abilities, Nu just got that title when she doesn't have a special ability like Mu-12 =w=; Nu needs to stop being her sword though D:

How about she becomes Bloodedge no Tsurugi instead? XD

Wouldn't be strange if she would become "good" in Blazblue 4 and change name to "Izanagi no Tsurugi"

[churchblue]

Noel/Mu-12 is the God Slayer. So she is able to destroy Izanami.

[NeoSkeith]

Wouldn't be strange if she would become "good" in Blazblue 4 and change name to "Izanagi no Tsurugi"

While I can see this happening, I get the feeling that will be Izanagi with his sword vs Izanami with her sword....which mean Ragna and Noel vs Izanami and Nu. To be honest I hope i'm wrong on this.

Then again, I wouldn't mind if Nu become good.

Noel/Mu-12 is the God Slayer. So she is able to destroy Izanami.

Easy to say "destroy her" but is really the right thing to do?

Just think about the story that Rachel has told them and what the hero has always did.

Also there is that scene when Ragna attacked Izanami and Saya words, not to mention of what Izanami said after that.( I remember someone translated this part)......what I mean is: I get the feeling that Saya (and maybe Izanami) is that girl.

Anyway , sorry for my bad english, I'm still learning.

[Zedar90]

One thing to think about Izanami/Saya is that she sure is emotional for being "death". She seems to take insults very personally (like when Jin said she was of no worth since she is death), calling Noel garbage, and wants Ragna by her side.

It could be like Terumi said in the prologue, Izanami could be to much fused with Saya, thus being effected by Saya.

[Toxin45]

Noel/Mu-12 is the God Slayer. So she is able to destroy Izanami.

Izanami is death dude.

[Toxin45]

One thing to think about Izanami/Saya is that she sure is emotional for being "death". She seems to take insults very personally (like when Jin said she was of no worth since she is death), calling Noel garbage, and wants Ragna by her side.

It could be like Terumi said in the prologue, Izanami could be to much fused with Saya, thus being effected by Saya.

Well Yeah But Izanami still the dominant one