Chrono Phantasma Speculations/Theories [rules updated 10/14]

[Chaoschao222]

Stop double posting.

[Toxin45]

okay

[Shinhwa]

While I can see this happening, I get the feeling that will be Izanagi with his sword vs Izanami with her sword....which mean Ragna and Noel vs Izanami and Nu. To be honest I hope i'm wrong on this.

Then again, I wouldn't mind if Nu become good.

Easy to say "destroy her" but is really the right thing to do?

Just think about the story that Rachel has told them and what the hero has always did.

Also there is that scene when Ragna attacked Izanami and Saya words, not to mention of what Izanami said after that.( I remember someone translated this part)......what I mean is: I get the feeling that Saya (and maybe Izanami) is that girl.

Anyway , sorry for my bad english, I'm still learning.

For some weird reason, Nu seems to have the title Izanagi no Tsurugi in some texts, although it is not known if this was on purpose or a text error. The seiyuus all say Izanami no Tsurugi but some texts show Izanagi no Tsurugi for some reason.

And Nu needs to become good as an individual instead of being used as a sacrifice fodder =A=;; It's the right course of action to please the fans and to actually bring peace and salvation for her...

And Noel can't be Izanagi no Tsurugi... she is Kusanagi =w=;;

One thing to think about Izanami/Saya is that she sure is emotional for being "death". She seems to take insults very personally (like when Jin said she was of no worth since she is death), calling Noel garbage, and wants Ragna by her side.

It could be like Terumi said in the prologue, Izanami could be to much fused with Saya, thus being effected by Saya.

Hmmm I wonder why. :I

Edited December 11, 2013 by Shinhwa

[Calamitus]

One thing to think about Izanami/Saya is that she sure is emotional for being "death". She seems to take insults very personally (like when Jin said she was of no worth since she is death), calling Noel garbage, and wants Ragna by her side.

It could be like Terumi said in the prologue, Izanami could be to much fused with Saya, thus being effected by Saya.

Imperator: No problem. If there is anything it is that your voice is hurting my ears.

Hazama: Oh, how stern of you as always. Even I would feel hurt by those words?

Imperator: My "vessel" was once "broken" by you, It can be helped if there is some rejections toward you.

Hazama: With only that? I only showed her "her own Memories". With the exact details. I even "reproduced" all the "senses".

Imperator: You are no good with woman... Well, soon this Vessel will completely be my own. Forgive me til then.

If this translation was accurate, she confirms it herself. Though it's hard to call it fusion.

[raziel12]

makes you wonder wat memories he showed o_o

[Shinhwa]

makes you wonder wat memories he showed o_o

Probably something about her origin or something. May be revealed next game. And the word "broken" really sounds wrong if you think of it another way > >;;

[Master Of Chaos]

Considering this is Terumi we're talking about...Yeah it probably wasn't anything good.

[Shinhwa]

Considering this is Terumi we're talking about...Yeah it probably wasn't anything good.

O god don't make me imagine it D:....

Or else Terumi will become a pedophile =w=

[Toxin45]

Yeah but still Izanami is still having Difficultly controlling Saya could be because Terumi trying to make Saya submit to Izanami.

Well it seems that after CP Izanami seems to be in direct control of Saya after taking Ragna as she and Phantom escape.

Although I will be quite mad that Ragna would lose his main character status in the next game if that happens

Edited December 20, 2013 by Toxin45

[Shinhwa]

It would be weird that he suddenly loses that status. I mean for 3 games straight he was the main character, so he should stay that way. All the development he received from CP would go to waste if he did lose it. However I am at least expecting at the worst scenario that he will be an enemy for maybe about the first half of the story or so due to his current berserk state. In the worst case, he might be an enemy up to like 70% of the entire story just like how Tsubaki was an enemy till Episode 14.

[Toxin45]

It would be weird that he suddenly loses that status. I mean for 3 games straight he was the main character, so he should stay that way. All the development he received from CP would go to waste if he did lose it. However I am at least expecting at the worst scenario that he will be an enemy for maybe about the first half of the story or so due to his current berserk state. In the worst case, he might be an enemy up to like 70% of the entire story just like how Tsubaki was an enemy till Episode 14.

But Mori originally wanted to demoted Ragna in CS and I hope he doesn't plan on that. Maybe The Black Beast is a creation of Izanami's will so The Beast might seprate from Ragna to find a new host like Venom.

[Shinhwa]

As shown in XBlaze, Black Beast actually existed for a long time as the avatar of destruction and Amanohokosaka clan had like put it under control for some time.

[Toxin45]

As shown in XBlaze, Black Beast actually existed for a long time as the avatar of destruction and Amanohokosaka clan had like put it under control for some time.

Your Right and In the fourth the black beast must be playable in human form but not Ragna's forms in a dragon human form.

Also I want Toya and Es to be playable in the fourth game with Izanami's true form

[Shinhwa]

Toya and Es.... that's highly unlikely sadly. I would say Mai coming into the story is more likely, knowing her fighting skill. We can't really have Remix Heart tossed aside from the story when she was mentioned (well along with Taro) in the game. Also the fact her ability needs to be considered.

[kylehyde]

Toya and Es.... that's highly unlikely sadly. I would say Mai coming into the story is more likely, knowing her fighting skill. We can't really have Remix Heart tossed aside from the story when she was mentioned (well along with Taro) in the game. Also the fact her ability needs to be considered.

I feel like Remix Heart is too irrelevant to the BB story, and that those names where just tossed in there for fans of the manga. But then again you never know, I for one didn't forsee Celica appearing back when I played CS.

[Fenris]

^{I guess I'll just ask about this in here, as it may engender speculative claims...}

Who or what exactly IS Platinum anyway? As in, the little girl; not the souls within. Any info on her?

[Master Of Chaos]

O god don't make me imagine it D:....

Or else Terumi will become a pedophile =w=

Are you saying he wasn't one already?

@Fenris: I don't believe the exact nature of Platinum has ever been really explained. The best that I can remember is that Jubei found Trinity's soul and put her in Platinum's body. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, it's been a long time since I've heard Platinum's backstory).

[Shinhwa]

Are you saying he wasn't one already?

Uh.......... uh......... I.... don't know....

[Zedar90]

I feel like Remix Heart is too irrelevant to the BB story, and that those names where just tossed in there for fans of the manga. But then again you never know, I for one didn't forsee Celica appearing back when I played CS.

Mai has a big chance of appearing in BB4 since Kagura specifically mentioned that he hasn't yet been able to get the Kisaragi, Yayoi and Hazuki families on his side yet.

[Shinhwa]

Mai has a big chance of appearing in BB4 since Kagura specifically mentioned that he hasn't yet been able to get the Kisaragi, Yayoi and Hazuki families on his side yet.

Which means Jin, Tsubaki and Mai will join in by representing their family pretty much lol.

But seriously speaking, considering Mai's Grimoire ability and her combat prowess, I think she is a great candidate to become a playable player and join in the story after.

[churchblue]

Mai would a playable character in the CP extension first before BB4. Though, I don't what power she would use or what her Astral Finish would look like.

[Tokkan]

Mai would a playable character in the CP extension first before BB4.

No. Mai doesn't actually show up in CP, is only mentioned. Characters added are usually ones currently involved in the story, which means the only possibly added playable characters in a CP2 or whatever would be Celica, Hibiki, Phantom/Nine and/or Jubei.

[Chaoschao222]

Since this has come up a fair amount of times for whatever reason; I'd like to point out that the BBCP speculations and theories thread is completely plot-related. This is not the place to guess/wish/assume which characters will be playable in the future, especially given how random the BB series is at that subject.

It's offtopic, and the only 'discussion' that comes from it is someone else coming along and informing others why their ideas are unlikely.

Unfortunately, I can't really tell you a place to go if you wanna wishlist/theorize future playable characters; it's hardly relevant to any part of the site.

[Shinhwa]

Since this has come up a fair amount of times for whatever reason; I'd like to point out that the BBCP speculations and theories thread is completely plot-related. This is not the place to guess/wish/assume which characters will be playable in the future, especially given how random the BB series is at that subject.

It's offtopic, and the only 'discussion' that comes from it is someone else coming along and informing others why their ideas are unlikely.

Unfortunately, I can't really tell you a place to go if you wanna wishlist/theorize future playable characters; it's hardly relevant to any part of the site.

Q___Q Then do something for us please D: (But I was speculating story-wise and not playable character-wise QwQ)

[Toxin45]

So Noel is actually Mu with Saya's other half of Soul and technically Noel is the Saya persona.