Shinhwa Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 And not only Rachel, but even Hazama had said that Carl is useless right now but he will have a great role to fulfill in the future.
Toxin45 Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) And not only Rachel, but even Hazama had said that Carl is useless right now but he will have a great role to fulfill in the future. Wow.... But on the serious Topic The Black Beast I don't think it was always a fusion between an Azure Grimore and Murakumo unit it could be a clone of the original Black Beast which died and later became a DNA sample by scientists. Edited January 18, 2014 by Toxin45
Shinhwa Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Let's not start up random crack guesses with no basis again shall we...? Black Beast is known to be a power from the Boundary itself, and was also known to be an avatar of destruction in the past. And it is explained that the current Black Beast is a failed product of the Kusanagi, where the Azure Grimoire and the Murakumo failed to fuse.
Toxin45 Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Let's not start up random crack guesses with no basis again shall we...? Black Beast is known to be a power from the Boundary itself, and was also known to be an avatar of destruction in the past. And it is explained that the current Black Beast is a failed product of the Kusanagi, where the Azure Grimoire and the Murakumo failed to fuse. Kay.
Shinhwa Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Carl having the qualities to become an observer might be a reason why Amane is chasing after him.
kagaribito Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 about the possibility of Saya(Izanami) being that Girl(Monster). Maybe that "devours the world" bit should be taken in metaphorical sense, meaning that Izanami wants to destroy the world - create the World of Death? How "Monster that devours the world" is written in Japanese?
Zedar90 Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 about the possibility of Saya(Izanami) being that Girl(Monster). Maybe that "devours the world" bit should be taken in metaphorical sense, meaning that Izanami wants to destroy the world - create the World of Death? How "Monster that devours the world" is written in Japanese? It's written exactly like that, "世界を喰らい尽す「怪物」に" (by the "monster" that consume the entire world). Izanami isn't a goddess or a monster, she is the materialization of the World's death (世界の死の具現化). You can think of it like this, The world is dead or dying and Amaterasu is inside the Amaterasu Unit to prevent the death, i.e. cheating death. In order to stop Amaterasu, Izanami exist and her goal is to make the world it's true form, a world of death.
Toxin45 Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 It's written exactly like that, "世界を喰らい尽す「怪物」に" (by the "monster" that consume the entire world). Izanami isn't a goddess or a monster, she is the materialization of the World's death (世界の死の具現化). You can think of it like this, The world is dead or dying and Amaterasu is inside the Amaterasu Unit to prevent the death, i.e. cheating death. In order to stop Amaterasu, Izanami exist and her goal is to make the world it's true form, a world of death. Well she did mention Izanagi so she is an actual goddess and it leans towards Nu what with the Black beast and all.The Imprison girl would most likely be the Amateratsu since the boundary or the master unit itself could be imprisonment or both.
Shinhwa Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Even though she is known as Mei-ou and such we can't exactly say she is a "god", even if she is named after the goddess.
Toxin45 Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Even though she is known as Mei-ou and such we can't exactly say she is a "god", even if she is named after the goddess. Okay is the new novel out yet?
Tokkan Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Okay is the new novel out yet? The second of the CS adaptation? Yes, since yesterday. Edit: Reading up on it from the BBS, looks like it played out similarly to the anime. One thing that caught my eye, apparently "No. 11"'s soul belonged to "No.12"... what? Not No.13? Edited January 18, 2014 by Tokkan
Toxin45 Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 The second of the CS adaptation? Yes, since yesterday. Edit: Reading up on it from the BBS, looks like it played out similarly to the anime. One thing that caught my eye, apparently "No. 11"'s soul belonged to "No.12"... what? Not No.13? Must be a Typo and can you give me a summary.It would be helpful.
Shinhwa Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Yeah, the fact is, the Lambda x Ragna thing was a mandatory yet, they just didn't add that in the games, where ArcSys probably realized later on that they should have added that in to make more sense for Lambda saving Ragna in CS. The second of the CS adaptation? Yes, since yesterday. Edit: Reading up on it from the BBS, looks like it played out similarly to the anime. One thing that caught my eye, apparently "No. 11"'s soul belonged to "No.12"... what? Not No.13? Mind giving me link to where that is? And probably a typo.
Toxin45 Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Yeah, the fact is, the Lambda x Ragna thing was a mandatory yet, they just didn't add that in the games, where ArcSys probably realized later on that they should have added that in to make more sense for Lambda saving Ragna in CS. Mind giving me link to where that is? And probably a typo. Well what's the summary?
Shinhwa Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 No idea. I need to read the novel or see that BBS or whatever.
Toxin45 Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 No idea. I need to read the novel or see that BBS or whatever. Well I saw the cover.
Shinhwa Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Well I saw the cover. Cover was available long time ago.
Toxin45 Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Cover was available long time ago. Yeah but did anyone get the summary?
Shinhwa Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Hey Zedar, I have a question. In Episode 10, Kagura mentioned that he used something that he really wanted to avoid using in order to repel Hazama from coming to the Colosseum. Any idea on what he used to repel Hazama from coming? At first I thought it would be Celica, but that doesn't seem to be it. Tager isn't either as he was just used to repel Izanami's Dimensional Interferences. Could it be Homura? I mean he was at the Colosseum in Episode 14, so although his current power is unknown (probably similar to Mei), it is possible he was the reason Hazama couldn't come. I mean Kagura did not want to use the method if possible.
kagaribito Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 I have a theory (now I'm serious) about Saya's behavior before the tragedy, where she wasn't acting like herself. Maybe that was because of Yukianesa's influence? I'm seeing it like that: Saya found Yukianesa somewhere in church (if there was remains of Black Beast, why there can't be a Nox?), or maybe somewhere in the forest (maybe Terumi left it there, knowing that she'll pick it up later), and she fell under it's influence. Later, to get rid of sword that messed with her head, she gave it to the brother who's been bullying her - Jin.
Toxin45 Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 I have a theory (now I'm serious) about Saya's behavior before the tragedy, where she wasn't acting like herself. Maybe that was because of Yukianesa's influence? I'm seeing it like that: Saya found Yukianesa somewhere in church (if there was remains of Black Beast, why there can't be a Nox?), or maybe somewhere in the forest (maybe Terumi left it there, knowing that she'll pick it up later), and she fell under it's influence. Later, to get rid of sword that messed with her head, she gave it to the brother who's been bullying her - Jin. But that doesn't explain how she got sick even before yukianasa came along.
kagaribito Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 that post was about how she acted before the tragedy. I never mentioned her sickness.
Toxin45 Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 that post was about how she acted before the tragedy. I never mentioned her sickness. Err I don't think the sword had anything to do with it i mean she had a high ars armus and I think this was before she got Yukianasa.Say I got a question who made the barrier?
Shinhwa Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) In case you guys forgot, Yukianesa was in Seven's possession before. Also Yukianesa never appeared within the church's territory until the day of the tragedy. Edited January 22, 2014 by Shinhwa
Zedar90 Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Hey Zedar, I have a question. In Episode 10, Kagura mentioned that he used something that he really wanted to avoid using in order to repel Hazama from coming to the Colosseum. Any idea on what he used to repel Hazama from coming? At first I thought it would be Celica, but that doesn't seem to be it. Tager isn't either as he was just used to repel Izanami's Dimensional Interferences. Could it be Homura? I mean he was at the Colosseum in Episode 14, so although his current power is unknown (probably similar to Mei), it is possible he was the reason Hazama couldn't come. I mean Kagura did not want to use the method if possible. I don't know, It might be Celica, he said after all (did the "charm"(お守り) work after all?), since they have Celica around Ragna so that Ragna can't be seen with "observation". But why didn't he want to use this method? One other possibility would be that they wanted Hazama to be concentrated on Homura, he did show Homura to Bang the night before. Or it might have to do with the whole "the world's eyes" that they collected during the Tournament. But he was surprised when Kokonoe said she couldn't detect any "Green" at all in the area. I only made a quick look since I don't remember to well, might soon replay it again and look closer after hints.
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