Chrono Phantasma Speculations/Theories [rules updated 10/14]

[Chaoschao222]

No, not that. A crack theory is treading thin enough, but don't followup a crack theory with fan art of a context-less official image. Speculations, not wild guesses.

I'm sure there are plenty of other wild guesses in this thread, but I admit I rarely look at this thread anymore

[Shinhwa]

I had to deal with so much unintelligent posts made by a certain individual... =___=;;

One more thing,

Rachel said that Ragna is an individual who is "needed" for this world, so I doubt he will get killed or anything next game just because he went berserk because of Izanami.

First thing that will probably happen in the next story is the protagonists saving Ragna from his current state, they then continue to go after Izanami.

As for Nu... until it is revealed what happened to her in Episode 18... I can't make any speculations on her... Only thing I can wish is for her to become free from all evil...

If she went with Izanami and Phantom in the end, then she will likely get in the protagonists' way again as Izanami no Tsurugi. If not and she went on her own, then it is likely that she will be traveling around alone, but considering her programming, it is highly likely that she went back to Izanami. If she went solo, I really don't know what she would be doing alone. I am more wondering if the synchronization with Noel would affect her in terms of soul, mind and personality somehow (instead of just copying the way she speaks), but that kind of thing will have to wait till next game if such theory can apply to her.

Nine will likely be freed from Izanami. INB4 Kokonoe gets punished by Nine o3o

I seriously can't tell whether Terumi/Hazama will appear next game. If at least Hazama is alive, it is possible that he will repent his evil ways (I mean Kazuma was not evil before.), but............... if he really died in Episode 18 then good bye Terumi/Hazama FOREVER (Good for me since I hate Terumi. Hazama's normal personality is good though). More like whether Terumi/Hazama is alive, they can't side with Izanami anymore, so Hazama is pretty much solo now even if he is alive. Not like he can go to Relius either since Relius is broken. I more see Relius getting influenced by Carl and Litchi kind of and repent his evil ways too. Although Carl says his father will pay for what he has done before, from the scene with Nirvana and Ignis, I started to see some hope that they will return to being a whole good family.

Litchi and Arakune I seriously have no idea what will happen to them. If things go good, then both will be saved. I mean they barely had much relevancy towards the main plot that I don't know how things will roll for them =w=;

I also doubt Platinum died (I mean come on, she is a loli... Children shouldn't die x_x), but I would say it is highly likely that Trinity herself really may have died.

Jin and Hakumen...... I don't know about Jin, but Hakumen for sure will likely try to kill Ragna saying it is too late for him and saying "In the end, The Dark One must be Destroyed".

This is just a personal wish, but I wish there was a Gag Reel in the next game where Izanami is involved 8D.

Wish there was another Gag Reel where Nu was involved too... I wish she becomes Litchi's fashion/cosplay victim if she does... TwT

Current cosplay victims are: Noel, Tsubaki, and Bullet, so...

I hope the next victim is Nu QwQ

If Mai does comes out in the next game though, it is more possible she will become the victim =w=;

I also hope that in the next game, if there is another Spectacles of Eros gag reel, I hope it can affect girls who already have strong feelings towards Ragna :p

If it does then we would see how Rachel would act if she was totally infatuated towards Ragna :p

Edited January 16, 2014 by Shinhwa

[Zedar90]

I personally believe the hunt for Ragna won't happen until the second act of BB4, the first act will be Kagura trying to keep the remaining NOL together. There might be two factions, those the sees Homura as the New Imperator and does that sees the age of following the Imperator is over.

Then there is the whole thing with Seven and Kisaragi. I the end of Phase shift it was Seven that had the Yukianesa and wanted it to be reintroduced to the Kisaragi family. He could very well had made a deal with Terumi. Seven lends Yukianesa to Terumi, and in return Terumi gives Seven a Heir with Yukianesa (Jin). And if that is the truth, what else kind of shit has Seven left behind that could bite our heroes in the back.

Ragna I don't know how he will be. I think he might not be berserk all the time, it's only that he don't know when it will happen so he is in hiding. After all, if he went on a rampage all the time he would be easy to find which I didn't get the feeling he was in the epilogue.

I believe that Hazama will return, but unlike Terumi whose all actions had reason for them, Hazama will only cause suffering and problems for others since he thinks those things are funny. In a way, he would be worse than Terumi.

Also for Phantom, I think she will die. After all, she is only a vessel made by Relius with Izanami binding Nine's soul to. The best would maybe Kokonoe and Jubei tag-teaming to kill her so that Nine's soul can finally rest in peace, maybe Jubei will die here as well.

No way that Platinum will be gone, her past is to much of a mystery. I could think that maybe Trinity somehow sacrificed her soul to protect Luna and Sena from Hazama's attack.

[Toxin45]

I had to deal with so much unintelligent posts made by a certain individual... =___=;;

One more thing,

Rachel said that Ragna is an individual who is "needed" for this world, so I doubt he will get killed or anything next game just because he went berserk because of Izanami.

First thing that will probably happen in the next story is the protagonists saving Ragna from his current state, they then continue to go after Izanami.

As for Nu... until it is revealed what happened to her in Episode 18... I can't make any speculations on her... Only thing I can wish is for her to become free from all evil...

If she went with Izanami and Phantom in the end, then she will likely get in the protagonists' way again as Izanami no Tsurugi. If not and she went on her own, then it is likely that she will be traveling around alone, but considering her programming, it is highly likely that she went back to Izanami. If she went solo, I really don't know what she would be doing alone. I am more wondering if the synchronization with Noel would affect her in terms of soul, mind and personality somehow (instead of just copying the way she speaks), but that kind of thing will have to wait till next game if such theory can apply to her.

Nine will likely be freed from Izanami. INB4 Kokonoe gets punished by Nine o3o

I seriously can't tell whether Terumi/Hazama will appear next game. If at least Hazama is alive, it is possible that he will repent his evil ways (I mean Kazuma was not evil before.), but............... if he really died in Episode 18 then good bye Terumi/Hazama FOREVER (Good for me since I hate Terumi. Hazama's normal personality is good though). More like whether Terumi/Hazama is alive, they can't side with Izanami anymore, so Hazama is pretty much solo now even if he is alive. Not like he can go to Relius either since Relius is broken. I more see Relius getting influenced by Carl and Litchi kind of and repent his evil ways too. Although Carl says his father will pay for what he has done before, from the scene with Nirvana and Ignis, I started to see some hope that they will return to being a whole good family.

Litchi and Arakune I seriously have no idea what will happen to them. If things go good, then both will be saved. I mean they barely had much relevancy towards the main plot that I don't know how things will roll for them =w=;

I also doubt Platinum died (I mean come on, she is a loli... Children shouldn't die x_x), but I would say it is highly likely that Trinity herself really may have died.

Jin and Hakumen...... I don't know about Jin, but Hakumen for sure will likely try to kill Ragna saying it is too late for him and saying "In the end, The Dark One must be Destroyed".

This is just a personal wish, but I wish there was a Gag Reel in the next game where Izanami is involved 8D.

Wish there was another Gag Reel where Nu was involved too... I wish she becomes Litchi's fashion/cosplay victim if she does... TwT

Current cosplay victims are: Noel, Tsubaki, and Bullet, so...

I hope the next victim is Nu QwQ

If Mai does comes out in the next game though, it is more possible she will become the victim =w=;

I also hope that in the next game, if there is another Spectacles of Eros gag reel, I hope it can affect girls who already have strong feelings towards Ragna :p

If it does then we would see how Rachel would act if she was totally infatuated towards Ragna :p

Given the way she acts she'll most likely be a knight of cerbeus in a gag reel and I hope specticules of Eros would be worn by a girl instead because you know what would happen if guys react to that.Also I hope your right on the next game

[Toxin45]

I personally believe the hunt for Ragna won't happen until the second act of BB4, the first act will be Kagura trying to keep the remaining NOL together. There might be two factions, those the sees Homura as the New Imperator and does that sees the age of following the Imperator is over.

Then there is the whole thing with Seven and Kisaragi. I the end of Phase shift it was Seven that had the Yukianesa and wanted it to be reintroduced to the Kisaragi family. He could very well had made a deal with Terumi. Seven lends Yukianesa to Terumi, and in return Terumi gives Seven a Heir with Yukianesa (Jin). And if that is the truth, what else kind of shit has Seven left behind that could bite our heroes in the back.

Ragna I don't know how he will be. I think he might not be berserk all the time, it's only that he don't know when it will happen so he is in hiding. After all, if he went on a rampage all the time he would be easy to find which I didn't get the feeling he was in the epilogue.

I believe that Hazama will return, but unlike Terumi whose all actions had reason for them, Hazama will only cause suffering and problems for others since he thinks those things are funny. In a way, he would be worse than Terumi.

Also for Phantom, I think she will die. After all, she is only a vessel made by Relius with Izanami binding Nine's soul to. The best would maybe Kokonoe and Jubei tag-teaming to kill her so that Nine's soul can finally rest in peace, maybe Jubei will die here as well.

No way that Platinum will be gone, her past is to much of a mystery. I could think that maybe Trinity somehow sacrificed her soul to protect Luna and Sena from Hazama's attack.

Okay but still ragna would saved

[Shinhwa]

I personally believe the hunt for Ragna won't happen until the second act of BB4, the first act will be Kagura trying to keep the remaining NOL together. There might be two factions, those the sees Homura as the New Imperator and does that sees the age of following the Imperator is over.

Then there is the whole thing with Seven and Kisaragi. I the end of Phase shift it was Seven that had the Yukianesa and wanted it to be reintroduced to the Kisaragi family. He could very well had made a deal with Terumi. Seven lends Yukianesa to Terumi, and in return Terumi gives Seven a Heir with Yukianesa (Jin). And if that is the truth, what else kind of shit has Seven left behind that could bite our heroes in the back.

Ragna I don't know how he will be. I think he might not be berserk all the time, it's only that he don't know when it will happen so he is in hiding. After all, if he went on a rampage all the time he would be easy to find which I didn't get the feeling he was in the epilogue.

I believe that Hazama will return, but unlike Terumi whose all actions had reason for them, Hazama will only cause suffering and problems for others since he thinks those things are funny. In a way, he would be worse than Terumi.

Also for Phantom, I think she will die. After all, she is only a vessel made by Relius with Izanami binding Nine's soul to. The best would maybe Kokonoe and Jubei tag-teaming to kill her so that Nine's soul can finally rest in peace, maybe Jubei will die here as well.

No way that Platinum will be gone, her past is to much of a mystery. I could think that maybe Trinity somehow sacrificed her soul to protect Luna and Sena from Hazama's attack.

O right, yeah, now that I think about it, how did Yukianesa which was in Seven's hand get into Saya's hands? The fact revealed in Volume 1 of CT novel was that Ragna and Celica never even saw Yukianesa until Jin had it. Saya gave it to him. There was a barrier around the church, and as explained at the time, Terumi did not have a physical body, where even though he did have Uroboros, as a spiritual body, he could not go into that barrier. However, Saya gave Jin the Yukianesa, then Jin destroyed the Barrier from the inside, where thanks to that, Terumi was able to enter the area.

The mystery behind the attack is getting more mysterious.

[Toxin45]

O right, yeah, now that I think about it, how did Yukianesa which was in Seven's hand get into Saya's hands? The fact revealed in Volume 1 of CT novel was that Ragna and Celica never even saw Yukianesa until Jin had it. Saya gave it to him. There was a barrier around the church, and as explained at the time, Terumi did not have a physical body, where even though he did have Uroboros, as a spiritual body, he could not go into that barrier. However, Saya gave Jin the Yukianesa, then Jin destroyed the Barrier from the inside, where thanks to that, Terumi was able to enter the area.

The mystery behind the attack is getting more mysterious.

Izanami she is a goddess it only works for Terumi but Izanami being goddess of death can apparently over come it by using Saya as a vessel as a disguise.

Edited January 16, 2014 by Toxin45

[Shinhwa]

Izanami she is a goddess it only works for Terumi but Izanami being goddess of death can apparently over come it by using Saya as a vessel as a disguise.

*facepalm* That's not the topic we are talking about here... We are talking about Yukianesa =_=

[Calamitus]

Wish there was another Gag Reel where Nu was involved too... I wish she becomes Litchi's fashion/cosplay victim if she does...

Next victim is Izanami for sure. She will pay for her crimes.

I also hope that in the next game, if there is another Spectacles of Eros gag reel, I hope it can affect girls who already have strong feelings towards Ragna :p

If it does then we would see how Rachel would act if she was totally infatuated towards Ragna :p

Ragna, Ragna, Ragna... Other characters deserve some love too.

No way that Platinum will be gone, her past is to much of a mystery. I could think that maybe Trinity somehow sacrificed her soul to protect Luna and Sena from Hazama's attack.

Actually we dont know much about Terumi but he was sent to rest already. He did not even had opportunity to speak with Amaterasu in person.

More like whether Terumi/Hazama is alive, they can't side with Izanami anymore

I thought that Izanami fired Hazama exactly, so maybe Terumi still has a chance if he will return. They both need "True BlazBlue" after all.

[Toxin45]

*facepalm* That's not the topic we are talking about here... We are talking about Yukianesa =_=

That's what I meant Terumi gave Izanami yukianasa and managed to bypass the barrier somehow and possessed Saya.Later izanami as Saya gave Jin yukianasa and thus the barrier was destroyed and if Terumi killed Celica then how he do it without being nullified?

[Shinhwa]

Next victim is Izanami for sure. She will pay for her crimes.

I would love to see that too 8D

Ragna, Ragna, Ragna... Other characters deserve some love too.

Ragna is the only one who actually has a harem =w=; (Including BL)

Actually we dont know much about Terumi but he was sent to rest already. He did not even had opportunity to speak with Amaterasu in person.

Actually considering he has met Amaterasu before somehow, we don't know.

I thought that Izanami fired Hazama exactly, so maybe Terumi still has a chance if he will return. They both need "True BlazBlue" after all.

Nope. She considers them the same.

[Calamitus]

Ragna is the only one who actually has a harem =w=; (Including BL)

I rather want to see how someone like Azrael, Tager, Arakune, Hakumen or Terumi will express love to any female character.

Actually considering he has met Amaterasu before somehow, we don't know.

I meant their "family reunion". Poor guy made various plots 3 games in row just to destroy (i dont think he will skip opportunity to taunt in person before destroying) lovely Amaterasu but instead he was killed by talking white tincan. No revelations, nothing.

Nope. She considers them the same.

Hm. How short-sighted for Goddess of Death.

[kylehyde]

Finding Ragna shouldn't be that hard considering Rachel knows where he is at all times. If she wanted she could just teleport Jin or Tsubaki right to Ragna so they could finish him. That is assuming she still has enough power to use teleportation at all.

Regardless I agree that the Blazblue is not something simply black and white. There is a hidden power that only Ragna can use most likely. At least that's what I think since it being fake doesn't take away from its importance in Rachel's eyes. And yeah the whole Protector of Azure thing still needs to be explained. Jubei certainly didn't know if Ragna would choose that path or that of the Destroyer.

[Master Of Chaos]

If they wanted us to think Hazama was dead, they would've made the death less ambiguous. "Fell into a lake and body not recovered," is way too suspicious, fucker's alive for sure. The question is what exactly Terumi's permaban did to him when he stabbed Platinum, how it will affect him now that Terumi's influence is gone (As in go back to how he was before they merged, similar to Kazama, or if he'll still be evil and take Terumi's place), and what he'll do now.

Terumi may or may not be brought back, hard to say at this point. There's still a lot about him shrouded in mystery, and now that we have another question that needs to be answered (Namely, who the fuck is Yuuki Terumi?) it probably boils down to whether or not these questions can be answered through Hazama or something else without him around. I'm personally inclined to think Terumi's very very dead and not coming back, Hakuwin killing him was way too hardcore to be undone so easily, and I'm pretty sure getting your time erased, whatever that entails, is not something you can walk off. But considering what this series is capable of, it wouldn't be too surprising to see him make a return somehow.

Ragna's gotta survive man, he's not gonna give up so easily, that's not how he rolls. He didn't go through all that character development for nothin, and now that he's finally coming to be more heroic and actually has someone that's actually emotionally supportive of him and doesn't treat him like shit, it'd be cruel to see that yanked away from him. Poor bastard needs a freakin break after all the shit he's had to go through. At the very least, he'll survive up until the end where he goes out doing an epic heroic sacrifice to save the BlazBlue world. If he ends up dying like a dog than fuck this shit see you all at Guilty Gear 700 or whatever.

I'm so calling this now, Relius is going to start being a somewhat competent father to Carl and gain back some of his humanity, then sacrifice himself to save Carl and Ada in a life or death situation. ASW is in on the Father of the Decade joke, now they have to validate us lol.

Trinity's fucked. I hate to say it, but it's all but confirmed she's gone for good. More then likely, we're going to end up stuck with the two brats who will contribute nothing other than being an annoyance. Hey, maybe THEY died and Trinity survived? Is it too much to hope?

Gonna put aside my vendetta for Nu for a minute and be real here, I don't see her getting a good ending out of all this. All her life, it's been about her trying to wipe out the world and merge and/or sexually kill Ragna, even before all the programming and soul transfer stuff. And with recent developments, things are not looking up. Can't say for sure if it was Izanami, or her own will, but she's already lost one chance to be saved, and I doubt she'll get another one with the current situation. Even if she does survive, what will happen to her then? I don't see her trying to blend in with the new world, I just can't picture it at all. Maybe she'll die and reincarnate into a life that isn't shit, dunno. But I think our favorite Yandere has reached the end of her rope...

Edited January 16, 2014 by Master Of Chaos

[cr1ms0n]

For once, I want to see a perfectly good ending to BlazBlue because:

Calamity Trigger - Ragna saved by Noel. / Terumi arrives and trolls him.

Continuum Shift - Ragna saves Noel. / "Saya" is revealed to be the Imperator.

Chrono Phantasma - Clear the world of seithr. / Ragna turning into a beast.

XBlaze Code: Embryo - Stops T-System and Sechs/ Loses Es.

I hope they end the series with something good for everyone, maybe even Izanami.

[heavymetalmixer]

If they wanted us to think Hazama was dead, they would've made the death less ambiguous. "Fell into a lake and body not recovered," is way too suspicious, fucker's alive for sure. The question is what exactly Terumi's permaban did to him when he stabbed Platinum, how it will affect him now that Terumi's influence is gone (As in go back to how he was before they merged, similar to Kazama, or if he'll still be evil and take Terumi's place), and what he'll do now.

Terumi may or may not be brought back, hard to say at this point. There's still a lot about him shrouded in mystery, and now that we have another question that needs to be answered (Namely, who the fuck is Yuuki Terumi?) it probably boils down to whether or not these questions can be answered through Hazama or something else without him around. I'm personally inclined to think Terumi's very very dead and not coming back, Hakuwin killing him was way too hardcore to be undone so easily, and I'm pretty sure getting your time erased, whatever that entails, is not something you can walk off. But considering what this series is capable of, it wouldn't be too surprising to see him make a return somehow.

Ragna's gotta survive man, he's not gonna give up so easily, that's not how he rolls. He didn't go through all that character development for nothin, and now that he's finally coming to be more heroic and actually has someone that's actually emotionally supportive of him and doesn't treat him like shit, it'd be cruel to see that yanked away from him. Poor bastard needs a freakin break after all the shit he's had to go through. At the very least, he'll survive up until the end where he goes out doing an epic heroic sacrifice to save the BlazBlue world. If he ends up dying like a dog than fuck this shit see you all at Guilty Gear 700 or whatever.

I'm so calling this now, Relius is going to start being a somewhat competent father to Carl and gain back some of his humanity, then sacrifice himself to save Carl and Ada in a life or death situation. ASW is in on the Father of the Decade joke, now they have to validate us lol.

Trinity's fucked. I hate to say it, but it's all but confirmed she's gone for good. More then likely, we're going to end up stuck with the two brats who will contribute nothing other than being an annoyance. Hey, maybe THEY died and Trinity survived? Is it too much to hope?

Gonna put aside my vendetta for Nu for a minute and be real here, I don't see her getting a good ending out of all this. All her life, it's been about her trying to wipe out the world and merge and/or sexually kill Ragna, even before all the programming and soul transfer stuff. And with recent developments, things are not looking up. Can't say for sure if it was Izanami, or her own will, but she's already lost one chance to be saved, and I doubt she'll get another one with the current situation. Even if she does survive, what will happen to her then? I don't see her trying to blend in with the new world, I just can't picture it at all. Maybe she'll die and reincarnate into a life that isn't shit, dunno. But I think our favorite Yandere has reached the end of her rope...

She hates the current world, if Ragna "destroys" it, and the world is rebuilt into a better one who knows, maybe she'll stop being like that.

[Toxin45]

Anyone wonders what would Xblaze 2 start out?

[Shinhwa]

Finding Ragna shouldn't be that hard considering Rachel knows where he is at all times. If she wanted she could just teleport Jin or Tsubaki right to Ragna so they could finish him. That is assuming she still has enough power to use teleportation at all.

Regardless I agree that the Blazblue is not something simply black and white. There is a hidden power that only Ragna can use most likely. At least that's what I think since it being fake doesn't take away from its importance in Rachel's eyes. And yeah the whole Protector of Azure thing still needs to be explained. Jubei certainly didn't know if Ragna would choose that path or that of the Destroyer.

Rachel lost the powers as an observer due to "joining up the stage", where she even lost the ability to use Teleportation magic at all pretty much.

I think that the Guardian of the Azure is a mandatory required being that is needed in the world, it's just that the one to become it needs to go through several stages of trials or meet a certain condition to become it. I also think that the one that Amaterasu has been looking for is the Guardian of the Azure, just that none showed up in all of her time loops.

If they wanted us to think Hazama was dead, they would've made the death less ambiguous. "Fell into a lake and body not recovered," is way too suspicious, fucker's alive for sure. The question is what exactly Terumi's permaban did to him when he stabbed Platinum, how it will affect him now that Terumi's influence is gone (As in go back to how he was before they merged, similar to Kazama, or if he'll still be evil and take Terumi's place), and what he'll do now.

Terumi may or may not be brought back, hard to say at this point. There's still a lot about him shrouded in mystery, and now that we have another question that needs to be answered (Namely, who the fuck is Yuuki Terumi?) it probably boils down to whether or not these questions can be answered through Hazama or something else without him around. I'm personally inclined to think Terumi's very very dead and not coming back, Hakuwin killing him was way too hardcore to be undone so easily, and I'm pretty sure getting your time erased, whatever that entails, is not something you can walk off. But considering what this series is capable of, it wouldn't be too surprising to see him make a return somehow.

Ragna's gotta survive man, he's not gonna give up so easily, that's not how he rolls. He didn't go through all that character development for nothin, and now that he's finally coming to be more heroic and actually has someone that's actually emotionally supportive of him and doesn't treat him like shit, it'd be cruel to see that yanked away from him. Poor bastard needs a freakin break after all the shit he's had to go through. At the very least, he'll survive up until the end where he goes out doing an epic heroic sacrifice to save the BlazBlue world. If he ends up dying like a dog than fuck this shit see you all at Guilty Gear 700 or whatever.

I'm so calling this now, Relius is going to start being a somewhat competent father to Carl and gain back some of his humanity, then sacrifice himself to save Carl and Ada in a life or death situation. ASW is in on the Father of the Decade joke, now they have to validate us lol.

Trinity's fucked. I hate to say it, but it's all but confirmed she's gone for good. More then likely, we're going to end up stuck with the two brats who will contribute nothing other than being an annoyance. Hey, maybe THEY died and Trinity survived? Is it too much to hope?

Gonna put aside my vendetta for Nu for a minute and be real here, I don't see her getting a good ending out of all this. All her life, it's been about her trying to wipe out the world and merge and/or sexually kill Ragna, even before all the programming and soul transfer stuff. And with recent developments, things are not looking up. Can't say for sure if it was Izanami, or her own will, but she's already lost one chance to be saved, and I doubt she'll get another one with the current situation. Even if she does survive, what will happen to her then? I don't see her trying to blend in with the new world, I just can't picture it at all. Maybe she'll die and reincarnate into a life that isn't shit, dunno. But I think our favorite Yandere has reached the end of her rope...

Terumi is dead for sure. Hazama however, I doubt he died just stabbing each other with Platinum was way too vague of a death. I am not too sure if Izanami can observe what Hazama and Relius are doing, but if I saw this right, considering Izanami said "Hazama and Relius aren't coming huh... Well it's fine. Their contract with me was to end by the banquet's end. But there is the truth that they did serve me. So next time we meet, I shall give them a good death." I think it depicts that Hazama may still be alive. But considering the mystery behind Terumi trying to become a Black Beast, that needs to be covered. But I am not too sure how that will be explained if Terumi is dead. Rachel might be a source to know about it. There is the Life Link between Hazama and Noel still, although I am not too sure if it still exists between them.

As I have been saying, the only one that has the qualifications to become the Guardian of the Azure is Ragna. Jin and Hakumen are not qualified as they are "Eiyuu" and Power of Order, and as told by Rachel's story, Eiyuus were always the one who brought ruin towards Amaterasu's story by killing the "Girl (Monster)".

Instead of trying to save her. Rachel said Ragna is needed for this world and he hasn't really done much to save the world from its current corrupt system just yet. He still has more roles to fulfill to free the world from the current system. But to do that he needs to fight Jin as he is the anti-body of the current world. I don't think that can be avoided.

I am hoping that Carl and Relius become family again while Ada and Ignis become human again instead of dolls. I can see some hope where this does happen.

Trinity... I know she is a soul bound to the Nox and all, but... yeah she is a goner for sure... But it would be sad as she did love Kazuma (If it wasn't for Terumi, there was the possibility that Kazuma would walk the path of good)... I would love to see her love being fulfilled in the end but from the current situation, I am seriously not too sure...

I hate to say this as a Nu fan, but yeah Nu has barely gotten any development at all. When she was Lambda, she showed some hope but that became pointless Lambda died and after the soul went back to her original body, she went back being yandere. But for sure as seen by her personality while being in Lambda, she isn't really that evil. It's just that she was a victim of torture done by the true evil, which were Relius, Hazama. Izanami probably took part as well. As for that stabbing at the end, I was sure that was Izanami's doing instead of Nu doing it on her own will kind of.

Actually before all the programming and such, she didn't want to go killing each other with Ragna... She was longing for Ragna while crying...

From my view, I think that saving Nu isn't that easy. She was programmed, tuned and adjusted to be corrupt and such, where if she is gonna be saved, she has to become freed from all that. Being in Lambda's body proved it, as Lambda's body wasn't programmed and made like how Nu was, where instead of a Yandere personality, Nu showed a kind personality as Lambda. If Ragna is going to save Nu, this is going to be more difficult than how Jin, Noel, and Makoto saved Tsubaki as for Tsubaki, she was only affected by Mind Eater and was only about half taken in. However for Nu, she went through 5 years of torture, experiments, adjustments, tuning, and programming, that she despises the world (Which was Hazama and Relius' aim as they must make the Murakumo Unit hate the world in order for them to destroy Amaterasu). I still see hope in her becoming saved, but that will depend on how the story flows. If she stays as Izanami no Tsurugi till the end, then she is bound to die one way or another. If Ragna faces Nu and does something similar to what Jin, Noel and Makoto did for Tsubaki, she might become able to be saved.

For once, I want to see a perfectly good ending to BlazBlue because:

Calamity Trigger - Ragna saved by Noel. / Terumi arrives and trolls him.

Continuum Shift - Ragna saves Noel. / "Saya" is revealed to be the Imperator.

Chrono Phantasma - Clear the world of seithr. / Ragna turning into a beast.

XBlaze Code: Embryo - Stops T-System and Sechs/ Loses Es.

I hope they end the series with something good for everyone, maybe even Izanami.

I am not too sure about sacrifices, but the story Amaterasu is aiming for is where people are "saved" instead of "perishing", so the final story will probably have a good end.

She hates the current world, if Ragna "destroys" it, and the world is rebuilt into a better one who knows, maybe she'll stop being like that.

Before rebuilding the world, she needs to become freed from all the experiments, programming and adjustments done to her so her true personality can come out.

[kylehyde]

Well certainly all the talk with Celica about how Ragna was a different kind of hero does some foreshadowing of some kind.

Does It make sense if Saya/Izanami is the girl in the book? I mean Saya is the girl and Izanami is the monster. If you kill the monster your basically killing the girl at the same time. Although obviously Saya is not inside Amaterasu so there is that too.

[Toxin45]

Rachel lost the powers as an observer due to "joining up the stage", where she even lost the ability to use Teleportation magic at all pretty much.

I think that the Guardian of the Azure is a mandatory required being that is needed in the world, it's just that the one to become it needs to go through several stages of trials or meet a certain condition to become it. I also think that the one that Amaterasu has been looking for is the Guardian of the Azure, just that none showed up in all of her time loops.

Terumi is dead for sure. Hazama however, I doubt he died just stabbing each other with Platinum was way too vague of a death. I am not too sure if Izanami can observe what Hazama and Relius are doing, but if I saw this right, considering Izanami said "Hazama and Relius aren't coming huh... Well it's fine. Their contract with me was to end by the banquet's end. But there is the truth that they did serve me. So next time we meet, I shall give them a good death." I think it depicts that Hazama may still be alive. But considering the mystery behind Terumi trying to become a Black Beast, that needs to be covered. But I am not too sure how that will be explained if Terumi is dead. Rachel might be a source to know about it. There is the Life Link between Hazama and Noel still, although I am not too sure if it still exists between them.

As I have been saying, the only one that has the qualifications to become the Guardian of the Azure is Ragna. Jin and Hakumen are not qualified as they are "Eiyuu" and Power of Order, and as told by Rachel's story, Eiyuus were always the one who brought ruin towards Amaterasu's story by killing the "Girl (Monster)".

Instead of trying to save her. Rachel said Ragna is needed for this world and he hasn't really done much to save the world from its current corrupt system just yet. He still has more roles to fulfill to free the world from the current system. But to do that he needs to fight Jin as he is the anti-body of the current world. I don't think that can be avoided.

I am hoping that Carl and Relius become family again while Ada and Ignis become human again instead of dolls. I can see some hope where this does happen.

Trinity... I know she is a soul bound to the Nox and all, but... yeah she is a goner for sure... But it would be sad as she did love Kazuma (If it wasn't for Terumi, there was the possibility that Kazuma would walk the path of good)... I would love to see her love being fulfilled in the end but from the current situation, I am seriously not too sure...

I hate to say this as a Nu fan, but yeah Nu has barely gotten any development at all. When she was Lambda, she showed some hope but that became pointless Lambda died and after the soul went back to her original body, she went back being yandere. But for sure as seen by her personality while being in Lambda, she isn't really that evil. It's just that she was a victim of torture done by the true evil, which were Relius, Hazama. Izanami probably took part as well. As for that stabbing at the end, I was sure that was Izanami's doing instead of Nu doing it on her own will kind of.

Actually before all the programming and such, she didn't want to go killing each other with Ragna... She was longing for Ragna while crying...

From my view, I think that saving Nu isn't that easy. She was programmed, tuned and adjusted to be corrupt and such, where if she is gonna be saved, she has to become freed from all that. Being in Lambda's body proved it, as Lambda's body wasn't programmed and made like how Nu was, where instead of a Yandere personality, Nu showed a kind personality as Lambda. If Ragna is going to save Nu, this is going to be more difficult than how Jin, Noel, and Makoto saved Tsubaki as for Tsubaki, she was only affected by Mind Eater and was only about half taken in. However for Nu, she went through 5 years of torture, experiments, adjustments, tuning, and programming, that she despises the world (Which was Hazama and Relius' aim as they must make the Murakumo Unit hate the world in order for them to destroy Amaterasu). I still see hope in her becoming saved, but that will depend on how the story flows. If she stays as Izanami no Tsurugi till the end, then she is bound to die one way or another. If Ragna faces Nu and does something similar to what Jin, Noel and Makoto did for Tsubaki, she might become able to be saved.

I am not too sure about sacrifices, but the story Amaterasu is aiming for is where people are "saved" instead of "perishing", so the final story will probably have a good end.

Before rebuilding the world, she needs to become freed from all the experiments, programming and adjustments done to her so her true personality can come out.

So Hazama would come back and Platinum but without Terumi or Trinity although would hilarious if Sena was inside and controlling Hazama hahaha.

Also i think the girl Amateratsu is her plans for Ragna getting ruined by the Six heroes so ragna winning against Jin/Hakumen would solve that.Maybe Ragna would get a "true form" and probably use Tsukiyomi somehow.

Relius being a tool for Litchi and Carl would probably make him a good person like you said.

Nu would be free as a good girl but the library mode impiles that Nu at least carries some pieces of Saya's memories so I don't know how that would work out but whatever.

Edited January 17, 2014 by Toxin45

[Toxin45]

Well certainly all the talk with Celica about how Ragna was a different kind of hero does some foreshadowing of some kind.

Does It make sense if Saya/Izanami is the girl in the book? I mean Saya is the girl and Izanami is the monster. If you kill the monster your basically killing the girl at the same time. Although obviously Saya is not inside Amaterasu so there is that too.

Well true but the implications of Saya being Noel still stands and that Izanami is possessing her original body with some memories of her.

Amatertasu most likely she is the one causing the time loops for awaiting the hero specifically the soul inhabiting Ragna it seems that she is bent on bringing him out of there but has to deal with Jin/Hakumen the protector of the current order.

[Shinhwa]

Stop double posting...

And what's up with all the unintelligent and crack theory posts...?

Well certainly all the talk with Celica about how Ragna was a different kind of hero does some foreshadowing of some kind.

Does It make sense if Saya/Izanami is the girl in the book? I mean Saya is the girl and Izanami is the monster. If you kill the monster your basically killing the girl at the same time. Although obviously Saya is not inside Amaterasu so there is that too.

The detailed name of the monster is "The monster that devours the world", which is doesn't really match how Izanami is :/

It pertains more towards The Black Beast as it is known as the monster that devours the world.

[Toxin45]

Stop double posting...

And what's up with all the unintelligent and crack theory posts...?

Don't call them crack..........Shinhwa and the black beast yeah I agree

The detailed name of the monster is "The monster that devours the world", which is doesn't really match how Izanami is :/

It pertains more towards The Black Beast as it is known as the monster that devours the world.

don't call them unintelligible and crack shinwa.....Also the black beast yeah that makes much more sense.But the master unit might have gone a bit too far with the loops

[Chaoschao222]

Do stop double posting though. It's fine when a thread's been dead for a few days, not for a few minutes.

And again, I don't come here often anymore, but I trust Shinhwa's judgment on the matter of unintelligent/crack theory posts, especially when I see theories that are just guesses with no backing or reason :x

[Toxin45]

Do stop double posting though. It's fine when a thread's been dead for a few days, not for a few minutes.

And again, I don't come here often anymore, but I trust Shinhwa's judgment on the matter of unintelligent/crack theory posts, especially when I see theories that are just guesses with no backing or reason :x

What? Ragna getting second form from the soul inhabiting his body and nu carring a piece of saya's soul was hinted in the library mode. I think ammy here wanted what was in rags to come out but has to deal with him and izanami being able to pissed says when she was young and getting yukianasa is more sense as she is a goddes and all so she used Jin to get out.Saya wasn't her usual self on the day the cruch burned implies that Izanami already possessed her.