Shinhwa Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Argh, one more day till Continuum Shift novel release. I hope it covers some more details on stuff that were missing in the game. For example, I hope the novel covers a more detailed story on about Jin's story about him receiving Yukianesa. Also about what Ragna meant by "DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT! Is that how it was? So that's how it was Saya?!" Right now it's a theory and hypothesis that Ragna was concluding that Saya was indeed not acting herself before the tragedy, but I hope the novel turns that into a fact by covering more details. I am more wondering if even the novel will use that "Noel feels pain after seeing Izanami" part that was in the anime. If it does, I hope it explains something about it, and if not, I hope that can be covered in the CP novel in the future. I hope the novel also has more Ragna x Lambda QwQ Looking by Lambda being in her cape and such XP Gotta wait for the official novel release and gotta wait for someone to scan or summarize it... T__T What? Ragna getting second form from the soul inhabiting his body and nu carring a piece of saya's soul was hinted in the library mode. I think ammy here wanted what was in rags to come out but has to deal with him and izanami being able to pissed says when she was young and getting yukianasa is more sense as she is a goddes and all so she used Jin to get out.Saya wasn't her usual self on the day the cruch burned implies that Izanami already possessed her. Stop it... just stop it... Ragna getting a 2nd form? WHAT? From the soul what? PROOF? There was no such thing ever being depicted or shown EVER. No no no, It's not that Nu "carries" a part of Saya's soul. It's just that she was influenced by it when she was cloned. That's it. Get your fact straight already. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT'S EVEN INSIDE RAGNA OR KNOW ANY BASIS ON IF THERE IS EVEN ANYTHING "SPECIAL" INSIDE. NOTHING WAS SHOWN AT ALL. IZANAMI BEING A GODDESS DOESN'T EVEN LINK TOWARDS HOW JIN OBTAINED YUKIANESA........................ THERE IS NO PROOF OF HOW AND WHEN IZANAMI POSSESSED SAYA SO STOP WITH THE WHOLE THING. This is why we are saying you are only spewing up crack and unintelligent theories. DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND JAPANESE? HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ALL THE OFFICIAL SOURCES? tvtropes and fan-made sites aren't a place where you get your information to base things off. The way you talk doesn't seem like you have even looked at the entire Chronophantasma Story Mode at all or even understood what the characters even said in there, and are just basing things off short summaries made by fans in tvtropes and some fan-made websites... And speak proper English already. Edited January 17, 2014 by Shinhwa
mAc Chaos Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Argh, one more day till Continuum Shift novel release. I hope it covers some more details on stuff that were missing in the game. For example, I hope the novel covers a more detailed story on about Jin's story about him receiving Yukianesa. Also about what Ragna meant by "DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT! Is that how it was? So that's how it was Saya?!" Right now it's a theory and hypothesis that Ragna was concluding that Saya was indeed not acting herself before the tragedy, but I hope the novel turns that into a fact by covering more details. I am more wondering if even the novel will use that "Noel feels pain after seeing Izanami" part that was in the anime. If it does, I hope it explains something about it, and if not, I hope that can be covered in the CP novel in the future. I hope the novel also has more Ragna x Lambda QwQ Looking by Lambda being in her cape and such XP Gotta wait for the official novel release and gotta wait for someone to scan or summarize it... T__T It probably means she was behind the church fire this whole time. No wonder Jin hates her and always talks about her stealing Ragna.
Shinhwa Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 It probably means she was behind the church fire this whole time. No wonder Jin hates her and always talks about her stealing Ragna. Yeah it really leads towards her being the main suspect but I want more detail on it. We know that out of jealousy, Jin was going to kill Saya, then she just gave him the Yukianesa. That's all we know right now. I wanted more detail on that. Usually in a novel, writers sometimes write down the character remembering the past in detail when they go emotional or betrayed about a certain character because he/she was acting weirdly at the time, so I hope that happens. For example, I hope the novel will say after Ragna says the "DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT!", where it says like for example, "Ragna remembered... Before that hellish attack... that Saya was totally not herself at the time and she had a certain face looking at him at the time..." Something like this for example really. I was wondering if the novel could just provide more details on things that ended really vaguely in the game.
Toxin45 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Argh, one more day till Continuum Shift novel release. I hope it covers some more details on stuff that were missing in the game. For example, I hope the novel covers a more detailed story on about Jin's story about him receiving Yukianesa. Also about what Ragna meant by "DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT DAMN IT! Is that how it was? So that's how it was Saya?!" Right now it's a theory and hypothesis that Ragna was concluding that Saya was indeed not acting herself before the tragedy, but I hope the novel turns that into a fact by covering more details. I am more wondering if even the novel will use that "Noel feels pain after seeing Izanami" part that was in the anime. If it does, I hope it explains something about it, and if not, I hope that can be covered in the CP novel in the future. I hope the novel also has more Ragna x Lambda QwQ Looking by Lambda being in her cape and such XP Gotta wait for the official novel release and gotta wait for someone to scan or summarize it... T__T Stop it... just stop it... Ragna getting a 2nd form? WHAT? From the soul what? PROOF? There was no such thing ever being depicted or shown EVER. No no no, It's not that Nu "carries" a part of Saya's soul. It's just that she was influenced by it when she was cloned. That's it. Get your fact straight already. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT'S EVEN INSIDE RAGNA OR KNOW ANY BASIS ON IF THERE IS EVEN ANYTHING "SPECIAL" INSIDE. NOTHING WAS SHOWN AT ALL. IZANAMI BEING A GODDESS DOESN'T EVEN LINK TOWARDS HOW JIN OBTAINED YUKIANESA........................ THERE IS NO PROOF OF HOW AND WHEN IZANAMI POSSESSED SAYA SO STOP WITH THE WHOLE THING. This is why we are saying you are only spewing up crack and unintelligent theories. DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND JAPANESE? HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ALL THE OFFICIAL SOURCES? tvtropes and fan-made sites aren't a place where you get your information to base things off. The way you talk doesn't seem like you have even looked at the entire Chronophantasma Story Mode at all or even understood what the characters even said in there, and are just basing things off short summaries made by fans in tvtropes and some fan-made websites. Well actually a little I do get some information and terumi might have given Saya yukianasa also anyone notice how Saya's eyes weren't shown? during the flashbacks? I mean the manga does gives us that Saya did had green eyes but it was from noel and it was non canon. Nu's soul and memories are really a piece of Saya's soul influence is the same thing. Saya as you said wasn't acting like herself as stated in the novels and Noel feeling pain seeing Izanami pretty sure that was a hint that Izanami was possessing Saya. Saya wasn't acting like herself and the fire was impiled to be Saya as Mac Chaos said
Shinhwa Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Toxin to my ignore list. I had it with his fail theories with no basis at all where it's not even referenced from the official sources. Terumi gave Saya Yukianesa? I ALREADY SAID THIS BUT TERUMI COULD NOT ENTER THE CHURCH'S AREA AT ALL DUE TO HIM BEING A SPIRITUAL BODY HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS. Forget it. Had it with your fail posts. Bye.
Toxin45 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Toxin to my ignore list. I had it with his fail theories with no basis at all where it's not even referenced from the official sources. Terumi gave Saya Yukianesa? I ALREADY SAID THIS BUT TERUMI COULD NOT ENTER THE CHURCH'S AREA AT ALL DUE TO HIM BEING A SPIRITUAL BODY HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS. Forget it. Had it with your fail posts. Bye. What serious?*sigh* Well he could have given though it by mailing it.
Lucalibur Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Yeah. Send a sword by mail to a church in the middle of nowhere and don't expect the rest of the receiver's family to know. Ain't like he would have to sign up his name in it for the whole world to know it was him. Obviously he could fake a name, but the whole idea is so stupid I'm not even gonna bother.
Shinhwa Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) There is one thing that interests me. Terumi said that Nine "found out too much" and that it was one of the reason why she was killed. I wonder what she had found out? The truth behind the world? If Phantom is freed and becomes Nine again, I wonder if she can use her knowledge to help freeing the world from its current system, by cooperating with Kokonoe, mother and daughter. There are two ways Phantom/Nine can go for. 1. Stays as Phantom all the way and gets in the protagonists' way until she is defeated then becomes free 2. Becomes freed midway in the story and joins the team and supports them using her knowledge. May live on or die depending on how the story goes. I am more wondering how much Amane will be relevant towards the story. I mean I can tell he is an observer like Rachel but unlike her, he doesn't really involve himself. He has given some slight advices towards characters but that's about it. Edited January 17, 2014 by Shinhwa
Cerotech Omega Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 I would also like to take the time to point out that ChrisX will not be returning. Particular... sensitivities were run raw here, or so I heard, and he does not foresee an improvement if he were to return. Anyway, back to the topic at hand - speculation on the story of Chronophantasma. I'm not surprised everyone's focusing on Ragna, given how the focus of the story has been on him all this time. Nor do I doubt he or the others may find a way to overcome this particular setback, however temporarily. But my eye has glossed over that, and is instead focused on other points which may or may not help resolve this one. A] Given that Noel and Tsubaki are themselves and back together again, one is left wondering what role Makoto has left to fulfill. With Relius having lost his plans and much of his motivation (outside of restoring Ada so he can face his judgment), his "random and untoward" interest in her is left unresolved thus far. I am not oblivious to everything that has been hinted - in addition to the aforementioned, Arcade commentary from Mu (CS) and Nu (CP) both note her resilience to seithr (an early translation from Nu's commentary brings up a 0.2% absorption rate), and Hakumen and Valkenhayn both had positive things to say about her (considering how hard Hakumen is to impress, that says a lot). On top of that, we know almost jack about her pre-Academy life, but from what has been gathered in CS, if being forced to relive it broke her in record time (see the bad ending), it wasn't pretty... not by a long shot. I have this feeling her role in affairs is much deeper than we are allowed to perceive. B] Thanks to certain parties attempting to divert my gaze, I have to wonder about Litchi as well. With the world's seithr having been neutralized, I don't think Arakune has much time left either, so if he is to be saved, it had best be soon. Given we do know that Carmine (I am using his last name to avoid translation inconsistencies) became what he is due to tampering with the Boundary and the Azure, any method that could help him might extend to saving Ragna from his out-of-control Azure Grimoire as well. Operating word: might.
Shinhwa Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Relius also mentioned that Makoto has become a good soul. Even Makoto wondered in Episode 11 what kind of role she can have since she doesn't have any special powers or title like Jin and Noel XD;; As for Litchi and Arakune... I seriously can't tell how things are going to flow for them =w=;; For one thing they barely had any relevance towards the main plot or had much story in the CP that not many improvements or such were shown for them... More like we don't even know what happened to Arakune after Episode 8 of Sector Seven and Episode 12 of Chronophantasma... Toxin just stop. stop Edited January 17, 2014 by Chaoschao222 don't call people babby, babby no can use 'puter
Chaoschao222 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Posted January 17, 2014 Calm down, people, you're getting offtopic and sillytastic. Shinhwa, I'm sure the posts you've gotta deal with here are frustrating, but ease off on insults. If you think it falls under the "blatantly stupid posts" part of the rules, just report it an' I'll take care of things.
Toxin45 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Calm down, people, you're getting offtopic and sillytastic. Shinhwa, I'm sure the posts you've gotta deal with here are frustrating, but ease off on insults. If you think it falls under the "blatantly stupid posts" part of the rules, just report it an' I'll take care of things. Okay , we'll try to behave.
Zedar90 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 There is one thing that interests me. Terumi said that Nine "found out too much" and that it was one of the reason why she was killed. I wonder what she had found out? The truth behind the world? If Phantom is freed and becomes Nine again, I wonder if she can use her knowledge to help freeing the world from its current system, by cooperating with Kokonoe, mother and daughter. There are two ways Phantom/Nine can go for. 1. Stays as Phantom all the way and gets in the protagonists' way until she is defeated then becomes free 2. Becomes freed midway in the story and joins the team and supports them using her knowledge. May live on or die depending on how the story goes. I am more wondering how much Amane will be relevant towards the story. I mean I can tell he is an observer like Rachel but unlike her, he doesn't really involve himself. He has given some slight advices towards characters but that's about it. It might have to be the thing with Nine coming to the conclusion that Terumi made Relius and Ayatsuki summon the Black Beast in order to make an intervention to the Master Unit. Terumi was surprised that Nine learned about that fact. It might also be troublesome that Nine is in the knowledge about the war in the Age of Origin(原初の時代). About Phantom, I don't think she will turn good, at least for a longer period of time. It is Izanami that binds Nine's soul to the Phantom vessel. Amane's goal might be to free Amaterasu from the Amaterasu Unit (he is called Uzume by Rachel after all), it is stated in his profile that he hates Hikikomori, and in a way you can count Amaterasu as one. The reason why he is so fixated on Carl is that he want Carl to make a vessel for Amaterasu?
Toxin45 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 It might have to be the thing with Nine coming to the conclusion that Terumi made Relius and Ayatsuki summon the Black Beast in order to make an intervention to the Master Unit. Terumi was surprised that Nine learned about that fact. It might also be troublesome that Nine is in the knowledge about the war in the Age of Origin(原初の時代). About Phantom, I don't think she will turn good, at least for a longer period of time. It is Izanami that binds Nine's soul to the Phantom vessel. Amane's goal might be to free Amaterasu from the Amaterasu Unit (he is called Uzume by Rachel after all), it is stated in his profile that he hates Hikikomori, and in a way you can count Amaterasu as one. The reason why he is so fixated on Carl is that he want Carl to make a vessel for Amaterasu? Errm Zedar no offense but Carl being a vessel sounds really awkward. Also i agree that Amane is trying to free the user of the master unit but what does that have to do with Rachel and what does Hikkomori mean?
Zedar90 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Errm Zedar no offense but Carl being a vessel sounds really awkward. Also i agree that Amane is trying to free the user of the master unit but what does that have to do with Rachel and what does Hikkomori mean? What... I said that Amane want Carl to make a vessel(doll) for Amaterasu to use as a body. He doesn't really have a relation with Rachel (hell, Rachel didn't know Amane in the arcade mode). They both are only "Outsiders to the World", Observers, whatever you want to call them. Hikikomori:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori
Toxin45 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 What... I said that Amane want Carl to make a vessel(doll) for Amaterasu to use as a body. He doesn't really have a relation with Rachel (hell, Rachel didn't know Amane in the arcade mode). They both are only "Outsiders to the World", Observers, whatever you want to call them. Hikikomori:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori Oh i get why Amane is trying to free ammy but why Carl beside the mainy liking handsome men sure he can be important but him being a vessel is quiet weird.
mAc Chaos Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 He means Carl making a body for Amaterasu just like Relius did for Terumi.
Toxin45 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 He means Carl making a body for Amaterasu just like Relius did for Terumi. Right but I thought Ammy was girl so using carl as a vessal is okay but still....
Cerotech Omega Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 *sigh* As everyone said, given Relius made a body for Terumi, Amane believes Carl could do the same for Amaterasu (once he gets Ada out of the way, of course - the experience could transfer over easily). And if I can go off on a tangent, let me ask you, since you just keep on posting whether we tell you to stop or not. Is English your first language?
Toxin45 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 *sigh* As everyone said, given Relius made a body for Terumi, Amane believes Carl could do the same for Amaterasu (once he gets Ada out of the way, of course - the experience could transfer over easily). And if I can go off on a tangent, let me ask you, since you just keep on posting whether we tell you to stop or not. Is English your first language? Uh Yeah and I am muslim so...
mAc Chaos Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Not Carl using his own body. Carl making ANOTHER body.
Toxin45 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Not Carl using his own body. Carl making ANOTHER body. Oh that makes sense and so what would the vessal of the master unit look like?
Shinhwa Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) What... I said that Amane want Carl to make a vessel(doll) for Amaterasu to use as a body. He doesn't really have a relation with Rachel (hell, Rachel didn't know Amane in the arcade mode). They both are only "Outsiders to the World", Observers, whatever you want to call them. Hikikomori:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori That's an interesting theory. I mean I knew that there was a good reason why Amane went after Carl so much, and I was sure that it's not just because he is a bishonen. If Carl does earn "education" from Relius and learns some technology, then I think that might be possible. Edited January 17, 2014 by Shinhwa
Toxin45 Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 That's an interesting theory. I mean I knew that there was a good reason why Amane went after Carl so much, and I was sure that it's not just because he is a bishonen. If Carl does earn "education" from Relius and learns some technology, then I think that might be possible. Now I get why you make so much stupid posts with bad English =_=; Don't start this again. But I still want see how Amatertasu getting a vessel would look like.
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