raziel12 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) ok guys update Arc System Works just announced that BlazBlue: Chronophantasma will be coming to PlayStation Vita in Japan, but arcades will be getting a little something as well. The latest issue of Weekly Famitsu reveals that an update to the arcade version of Chronophantasma is set to arrive in game centers sometime around the middle of March. This update will include Kagura, Terumi, and Kokonoe (the three characters introduced in the console version) as well as character balance tuning for the cast. i knew it they didnt want to announce any updates till the state version came out Edited January 30, 2014 by raziel12
irobeth Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) We don't know much about Terumi before the first cauldron accident - I've been toying with the idea that Terumi is actually Jin's first incarnation as Hakumen who decided to reject the Susano'o After that moment he negotiated his return to the past with Relius to try and control the cauldron's powers; In the next iteration, he (as Terumi) betrays the other heroes and this influences Jin (as Hakumen) toward the path of order instead of chaos. This would explain how Terumi already knew Hakumen was Jin - because he himself is Jin Edited January 30, 2014 by irobeth
Master Of Chaos Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 What all of my fucking what why how do you even come to that conclusion just how
Toxin45 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 We don't know much about Terumi before the first cauldron accident - I've been toying with the idea that Terumi is actually Jin's first incarnation as Hakumen who decided to reject the Susano'o After that moment he negotiated his return to the past with Relius to try and control the cauldron's powers; In the next iteration, he (as Terumi) betrays the other heroes and this influences Jin (as Hakumen) toward the path of order instead of chaos. This would explain how Terumi already knew Hakumen was Jin - because he himself is Jin Well Sochiro is implied to be terumi
Master Of Chaos Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Enough with the crack theories. Terumi is not Jin. Terumi knows about Jin because he went through timeloop after timeloop doing the same shit over and over. He knows about everyone. Terumi being Jin doesn't make any freakin sense whatsoever. Terumi and Sochiro are of the same arch-type, there is nothing to confirm they are one in the same. I thought we got off this "Everything in BlazBlue is XBlaze" thing.
Toxin45 Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Enough with the crack theories. Terumi is not Jin. Terumi knows about Jin because he went through timeloop after timeloop doing the same shit over and over. He knows about everyone. Terumi being Jin doesn't make any freakin sense whatsoever. Terumi and Sochiro are of the same arch-type, there is nothing to confirm they are one in the same. I thought we got off this "Everything in BlazBlue is XBlaze" thing. Yeah Yeah Terumi is not Jin but still Terumi's true identity still remains...
Toxin45 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Don't make me report stupid posts... Hey it wasn't me this time.
Malcopunch Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 I do XBlaze will probably connect to the next BB Game..hey what would be kinda cool if they took a break from BB and made a X-Blaze Fighting Game..
Toxin45 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 So does the library mode states the death of Terumi and Trinity's spirits?
Zedar90 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 So does the library mode states the death of Terumi and Trinity's spirits? No, nothing like that, I don't even know why people started to think that Trinity's spirit got killed. All that is said is that they stabbed each other and fell from the monolith into the lake and their whereabouts is unknown.
Toxin45 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 No, nothing like that, I don't even know why people started to think that Trinity's spirit got killed. All that is said is that they stabbed each other and fell from the monolith into the lake and their whereabouts is unknown. So refresh my memories Hazama and Terumi being seprated made them "split" Personalities more or less?
Zedar90 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) So refresh my memories Hazama and Terumi being seprated made them "split" Personalities more or less? Terumi was a person that made a request to Relius and Ayatsuki to make Kusanagi for him. Terumi was going to give Relius and Ayatsuki the Susanoo unit but it got intercepted by Alucard. During the revive of the Black Beast Terumi lost his body. After 6 years he started to get contact with Kazuma who was a vessel for Terumi that Relius had made and put in Ishana. Kazuma seemed to be a nice guy on the outside but he had dreams of bullying Ragna and for him that was a pleasant experience. Terumi started to make Kazuma looking for the Azure which made Kazuma trick Celica to leave and go to Japan and punch Trinity unconscious. When Kazuma touched the gate in Ishana the fusion between him and Terumi began and Kazuma was attacked by Tomonori. Tomonori saw Terumi's spirit body and Kazuma/Terumi killed Tomonori, and was then immediately captured by Valkenhayn and sealed by Clavis. After the Black Beast came back after it had been gone for one year, Nine opened the seal where Terumi was and put Mind Eater on him, but in order to somewhat escape the effect Terumi split Kazuma and his mind. Terumi was forced to help Nine while he made Kazuma introduce Eight and Seven to the Orbis Librarius Norma. When the climax of the war with the Black Beast nearing Kazuma tricked Trinity to dispel the mind eater on Terumi, and while the dispel worked a side effect occurred were Terumi could no longer perfectly fuse with his vessel. Terumi disappeared for a while removing the heart from the black beast and then reaper in the gate in Ishana were he killed Nine (phantom is a vessel with Nine's soul) and threw her into the boundary and Trinity into the boundary as well (in the last moment, Trinity sealed her own soul into the muchourin herself). Terumi would later meet Hakumen and Jubei at a gate and would attempt to kill them, however Jubei used his brother's eye that had seen Terumi's spirit body and transformed Kazuma into Terumi's ghost form and Hakumen grabbed Terumi and jumped into the gate. Takamagahara-system would later release Terumi's spirit and Terumi would start to talk with Hazama and make him do work for him. At the end of CT Noel would observe Hazama as Terumi and thus Terumi could finally control the Hazama vessel himself. During Chronophantasma Trinity would make Terumi be the front instead of Hazama, however for some reason (likely when she got interrupted) Terumi got completely separated from Hazama as a Doppelgänger, however their minds seemed to be linked in some way (the reason why Terumi couldn't move during the climax was because Hazama needed all of the attention when Trinity attacked Hazama). Edited January 31, 2014 by Zedar90
Toxin45 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Terumi was a person that made a request to Relius and Ayatsuki to make Kusanagi for him. Terumi was going to give Relius and Ayatsuki the Susanoo unit but it got intercepted by Alucard. During the revive of the Black Beast Terumi lost his body. After 6 years he started to get contact with Kazuma who was a vessel for Terumi that Relius had made and put in Ishana. Kazuma seemed to be a nice guy on the outside but he had dreams of bullying Ragna and for him that was a pleasant experience. Terumi started to make Kazuma looking for the Azure which made Kazuma trick Celica to leave and go to Japan and punch Trinity unconscious. When Kazuma touched the gate in Ishana the fusion between him and Terumi began and Kazuma was attacked by Tomonori. Tomonori saw Terumi's spirit body and Kazuma/Terumi killed Tomonori, and was then immediately captured by Valkenhayn and sealed by Clavis. After the Black Beast came back after it had been gone for one year, Nine opened the seal where Terumi was and put Mind Eater on him, but in order to somewhat escape the effect Terumi split Kazuma and his mind. Terumi was forced to help Nine while he made Kazuma introduce Eight and Seven to the Orbis Librarius Norma. When the climax of the war with the Black Beast nearing Kazuma tricked Trinity to dispel the mind eater on Terumi, and while the dispel worked a side effect occurred were Terumi could no longer perfectly fuse with his vessel. Terumi disappeared for a while removing the heart from the black beast and then reaper in the gate in Ishana were he killed Nine (phantom is a vessel with Nine's soul) and threw her into the boundary and Trinity into the boundary as well (in the last moment, Trinity sealed her own soul into the muchourin herself). Terumi would later meet Hakumen and Jubei at a gate and would attempt to kill them, however Jubei used his brother's eye that had seen Terumi's spirit body and transformed Kazuma into Terumi's ghost form and Hakumen grabbed Terumi and jumped into the gate. Takamagahara-system would later release Terumi's spirit and Terumi would start to talk with Hazama and make him do work for him. At the end of CT Noel would observe Hazama as Terumi and thus Terumi could finally control the Hazama vessel himself. During Chronophantasma Trinity would make Terumi be the front instead of Hazama, however for some reason (likely when she got interrupted) Terumi got completely separated from Hazama as a Doppelgänger, however their minds seemed to be linked in some way (the reason why Terumi couldn't move during the climax was because Hazama needed all of the attention when Trinity attacked Hazama). Okay but Platinum looked oddly like a younger Trinity so is Platinum a vessel for Luna,Sena,and Trnity?
Zedar90 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Okay but Platinum looked oddly like a younger Trinity so is Platinum a vessel for Luna,Sena,and Trnity? As far as I know, nothing is said about that. That is also the biggest reason why I think that there is no way for Platinum to be dead.
Toxin45 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 As far as I know, nothing is said about that. That is also the biggest reason why I think that there is no way for Platinum to be dead. So Terumi is dead but not Hazama so does this mean that Hazama's mind has been broken because of Terumi's death,also out of curiosity are Sena and Luna Seven and Eight from the light novels?
Zedar90 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 So Terumi is dead but not Hazama so does this mean that Hazama's mind has been broken because of Terumi's death,also out of curiosity are Sena and Luna Seven and Eight from the light novels? Terumi got his time killed by Hakumen, so he should be gone for sure, Unless for some reason Master Unit brings him back for some kind of strange reason. Hazama is a big question, he was effected by the time killer but he could still move after which is strange if all his time is gone. And even if he died he should get revived by the Life-link with Noel. Luna and Sena are at least not mentioned in phase-shift. Seven was the head of Kisaragi during the dark war and was the number 7 of the ten saints. He worked on Take-mikazuchi against Nine's order. He was the first wielder of Yukianesa. After the war he claimed that Eight had stole the Yukianesa and disappeared with it, but in reality he had killed Eight and hid the Yukianesa himself so that he some time later could reintroduce it to the Kisaragi family in a mysterious way (Jin?). Eight was a woman and was the number 8 of the ten saints, and she didn't like Nine at all. After the war she was asked by Seven to hid the Yukianesa for him but the moment she touched it the entire room was frozen with the exception of Seven and Yukianesa and thus died.
Toxin45 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Terumi got his time killed by Hakumen, so he should be gone for sure, Unless for some reason Master Unit brings him back for some kind of strange reason. Hazama is a big question, he was effected by the time killer but he could still move after which is strange if all his time is gone. And even if he died he should get revived by the Life-link with Noel. Luna and Sena are at least not mentioned in phase-shift. Seven was the head of Kisaragi during the dark war and was the number 7 of the ten saints. He worked on Take-mikazuchi against Nine's order. He was the first wielder of Yukianesa. After the war he claimed that Eight had stole the Yukianesa and disappeared with it, but in reality he had killed Eight and hid the Yukianesa himself so that he some time later could reintroduce it to the Kisaragi family in a mysterious way (Jin?). Eight was a woman and was the number 8 of the ten saints, and she didn't like Nine at all. After the war she was asked by Seven to hid the Yukianesa for him but the moment she touched it the entire room was frozen with the exception of Seven and Yukianesa and thus died. Oh I think it was because Hazama and Terumi were still linked in some way in that when Terumi died Hazama was seriously damaged so he got his mind screwed up and seems parts of Terumi got through Hazama into stabbing Platinum before Terumi was gone for good. So do you think that it caused Sena to somehow took over Hazama's body after they fall in the water?Just saying.
Zedar90 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Oh I think it was because Hazama and Terumi were still linked in some way in that when Terumi died Hazama was seriously damaged so he got his mind screwed up and seems parts of Terumi got through Hazama into stabbing Platinum before Terumi was gone for good. So do you think that it caused Sena to somehow took over Hazama's body after they fall in the water?Just saying. There is nothing hinting towards that and I at the moment does not see any drama from that happening. So I would say no. What I can see is that Hazama lays low only to strike when no one expects it and make it hard for our heroes.
Toxin45 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 There is nothing hinting towards that and I at the moment does not see any drama from that happening. So I would say no. What I can see is that Hazama lays low only to strike when no one expects it and make it hard for our heroes. Although hazama without Terumi he's pretty much without a mind and instead kills everything he sees not caring about Terumi's goals anymore kinda like ripper.
Zedar90 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Although hazama without Terumi he's pretty much without a mind and instead kills everything he sees not caring about Terumi's goals anymore kinda like ripper. Yeah, he would act more like Ripper then Terumi, however I'm far more scared of Ripper than of Terumi. But since Hazama should know most of Terumi's plans, what stops him from following some of Terumi's plans only for kicks. Also, Hazama would likely have some contacts with in Kisaragi thanks to Seven, also didn't Tsubaki's father change after the war? Might have something with in Yayoi as well.
Toxin45 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Yeah, he would act more like Ripper then Terumi, however I'm far more scared of Ripper than of Terumi. But since Hazama should know most of Terumi's plans, what stops him from following some of Terumi's plans only for kicks. Also, Hazama would likely have some contacts with in Kisaragi thanks to Seven, also didn't Tsubaki's father change after the war? Might have something with in Yayoi as well. Wait don't tell me their incest policy got toned down? But seriously why are you scared of Ripper?
Zedar90 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 Wait don't tell me their incest policy got toned down? But seriously why are you scared of Ripper? He is psychotic and can't be predicted what he is going to do, I was seriously scared in Kuon/Mei route when Mei called him low-life and he got mad and started to talk in a low tone. Ripper: ...ah? Mei-chan? Did you perhaps mean me when you said low-life? Mei: Who else could it be!! Ripper: ... is that so, I don't see it like that you know? And then he attacks Mei.
Toxin45 Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 He is psychotic and can't be predicted what he is going to do, I was seriously scared in Kuon/Mei route when Mei called him low-life and he got mad and started to talk in a low tone. Ripper: ...ah? Mei-chan? Did you perhaps mean me when you said low-life? Mei: Who else could it be!! Ripper: ... is that so, I don't see it like that you know? And then he attacks Mei. Hm kinda like Hazama is but terumi seems to embrace his evil and yet Ripper hates being called a low life. Although Terumi used to be a scientist before he turned into a ghost and Hazama seems to be based on ripper then whoever Terumi used to be. Also Ripper seems to be an evil version of Tao.
Shinhwa Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) I still want to know what the hell happened to Nu after she stabbed(?) Ragna from the back. Chronophantasma seriously had a weird way of taking care of its characters as they like "disappeared" after a certain dialogue which wasn't even a conclusion or ending for them. Hm kinda like Hazama is but terumi seems to embrace his evil and yet Ripper hates being called a low life. Although Terumi used to be a scientist before he turned into a ghost and Hazama seems to be based on ripper then whoever Terumi used to be. Also Ripper seems to be an evil version of Tao. Stop trying to link characters from BB to XBLAZE... They make look similar or their personalities may seem similar but that doesn't mean they are related... How many times must we tell you that... Edited February 1, 2014 by Shinhwa
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