Rhiya Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 watch a replay. each time you get hit, keep asking yourself what you got hit by until you can answer it. keep asking yourself why you got hit by that move until you can answer it. for every single hit, even a burst. if your answer is among the lines of "because that character is broken," unless that character is kokonoe, slap yourself in the face and try again, truthfully. if you think your answer is reasonable, consciously correct the issue, or hit up training, white it down, whatever. if you're not sure, talk about it! ask the player what they're doing. be exact. "hey haku player, why do you use 3c here, or hazama player why do you j6d there." abstract questions get abstract answers, so learn exactly what you need to be doing in a given match by asking, doing, and learning. save the abstract for baiting bursts and applying mixup. this isn't meant to be an end-all to staying calm, but if you're serious about improving this could help out a bit. those who want to learn and/or naturally stay motivated. This is the god advice for any competitive game with replays. Out of everything you can do, this will make you improve the fastest (and is the -only- way to improve at certain points along the learning curve). I cannot stress enough the importance of watching replays.
InfinityGenesis Posted November 26, 2013 Author Posted November 26, 2013 I'm glad to see there are plenty of tips still being thrown out on the table. Still, I'm thinking about just giving up. I'm just not making any progress, or in some cases losing progress. Everything I'm learning about Kagura just doesn't matter. I don't think I'd be comfortable with returning to Relius. Sometimes, you just can't fix what was broken from the start.
TD Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 so then give up. your choice. life doesn't end because you cant play video games "properly". my advice is this. if you really want to stop playing, then do so, but only if you don't feel like you're cheating yourself. because if you are, you won't be a winner, you'd be a quitter. either man up, grit your teeth and learn, or move on because you're bored or something. Don't. Quit.
CakeWasBannedd Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 so then give up. your choice. life doesn't end because you cant play video games "properly". my advice is this. if you really want to stop playing, then do so, but only if you don't feel like you're cheating yourself. because if you are, you won't be a winner, you'd be a quitter. either man up, grit your teeth and learn, or move on because you're bored or something. Don't. Quit. TD do you believe you are an anime this post would suggest you do
BoltofShadow Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) So you apparently keep losing? I'm pretty sure my overall record so far is 1/4th of my games are wins or something along those lines. I get upset when I lose, but don't let it make you depressed. Let it make you angry, at least angry enough to make you want more. Then try to get better and watch videos of your character or maybe even the match-up, then go back and kick their asses, note combos mean nothing if you can't win the neutral game. I had this happen with someone here who gave me a hell of a wake-up call on how "good" I was, and I can safely say I've improved since my first set with him. Edited November 26, 2013 by BoltofShadow
RifleAvenger Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) What you do now depends on how much you care. I've got terrible win ratios online in every fighter I play (< 10% in SF4), but slowly I've been getting better overall. I pulled my ratio with Liz in Persona 4 from 25% to over 50% again in P4A, after putting in some effort to level up my game. I'm able to endure being on the ass-end of the playerbase because I truly enjoy the games and think it's worth it to play even knowing I will probably lose. If you want to play Kagura, just keep playing him, and keep learning. If you don't think it's worth it, go do something more worth your time. We can't force you to keep playing, or give you a magic bullet that will make you a top player. The only one that can do that, is you. Edited November 26, 2013 by RifleAvenger
mAc Chaos Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Find people you enjoy playing with and play with them a lot. It will be fun whether you win or lose. All we can do is show you a different way to look at your losses.
Celerity Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 When I see someone with hundreds of games played and a terrible W/L ratio, my respect for them goes way up. Don't be afraid of losses, wear them like a badge of honor that proves your dedication.
jimmy Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 I'm able to endure being on the ass-end of the playerbase because I truly enjoy the games and think it's worth it to play even knowing I will probably lose. If you want to play Kagura, just keep playing him, and keep learning. If you don't think it's worth it, go do something more worth your time. I think this is a pretty insightful reply; every second spent playing/grinding games could be spent doing something else. These games take a substantial amount of time/mental energy to play at a reasonably competitive level and unless you really enjoy the effort (not just the payoff), you might as well spend your limited life in a way that's more satisfying to you. :ballAI:
Legacy Edge Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) I know how you feel OP, its crushing to have tons of losses no matter how hard you try. Its even more crushing when you are at 1 hit away from a win, but you get turned around and get astralled in the face. 4 times in a row. I was at 0-150 when i stopped counting, it probably has gone waaaay higher now. Not even joking. This game is incredibly hard. BUT Eventually you will get there, you will see all the work you put into this finally pay off, and you will enjoy it. So just endure this and keep going. You can do it, just remember that. Edited November 26, 2013 by Legacy Edge
InfinityGenesis Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 I need to stop feeling sorry for myself. I'm not hopeless and I can hold my own in a match. Everybody is right. I will get better. I need to grow up and just play the game. Sitting here being down about it won't do me any good.
reaVer Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Also, stop worrying about playing the game 'properly'. There is no proper way to play aside from the way that nets you wins. For all I care you win by mashing dp all the time, as long as you have fun and can make it work for you. Just go with what feels comfortable for you.
heavymetalmixer Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 "Every day you learns something new, and you will only stop learning when you die". For me the fun of a FG comes frome learning and effort, and those are things that never end :D
Kirnupiima Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 I have some trouble getting past the barrier of playing against others. I'm lucky in that there are lots of better players near me (some even quite good) but it's really hard to get anything done. Yesterday I went to a meet and was greeted by a Taokaka player whose pressure I really can't really break. I try to play Rachel even though I know she is not that easy a beginner character. I like her potential versatility and having stuff over the map gives me the illusion of control, LOL. I feel that whenever I get out of blockstrings or recover from combos I just uncontrollably start summoning items and completely forget the actually good normal moves (6A, 5B, 6B?) and then just end up on the bottom. I have practiced a few good damage combos but there hasn't really been an opening for me to execute them. It seems that under pressure I can't do rational decisions. Calmness is probably the answer and more practice ofc. This match is my holy grail where I want to be when I grow up. The Jin player might not be a very good blocker but nevermind: http://youtu.be/O3J_YPU4CRU?t=51m4s /end of wall of whine. Cheers!
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