Justice7541 Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 yes, it works if done in mid-air - to hit a grounded opp`s head, then u can do it quickly again but there was something different Well, i really can tell that i dont understand how to play this character, cant see why he is top-tier, it very difficult to hit opp, bad oki if done without raging lion Rise has a terrible pressing options, this one guy has none Really just cand understand how to setup damage, can someone help? Pretty sure this is just a super obvious troll.
TheHitmarkersPro Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 yes, it works if done in mid-air - to hit a grounded opp`s head, then u can do it quickly again but there was something different Well, i really can tell that i dont understand how to play this character, cant see why he is top-tier, it very difficult to hit opp, bad oki if done without raging lion Rise has a terrible pressing options, this one guy has none Really just cand understand how to setup damage, can someone help? press 5B and j.2B and confirm into 214C safejump and repeat until they die if you really don't know what you're doing tbh
SabinDeus Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Total newb question: What's some good setups after hitting 214B from midscreen? If the answer is "don't 214B from midscreen" then I understand but I'm hoping there's something. Relatedly: What about after 236B/AB? I can do stuff after that in the corner but I'm not sure what to do at midscreen.
TheHitmarkersPro Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 Total newb question: What's some good setups after hitting 214B from midscreen? If the answer is "don't 214B from midscreen" then I understand but I'm hoping there's something. Relatedly: What about after 236B/AB? I can do stuff after that in the corner but I'm not sure what to do at midscreen. Nothing unless 214B fatals. On fatal -- 214B > dash 2B > delay 5C > delay IAD j.b > 5C > delay IAD j.BB > 5C > TK 214A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 214B -- 4K meterless, p1 start and closer
Nakkiel Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 236B midscreen gives you a safe jump. Not worth spending resources on it since the prorate is awful. TheHitmarkersPro 1
edollarports Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 I think it's good to note though that if you DO need the damage, you can ziodyne/RC the ziodyne/idk how much meter you actually have to follow 236B/AB midscreen, in order to grab a kill
Slaudial Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Tried it once and got horribly punished for it, obviously not a good idea (214C). I'll see what i can do next time I play a good mitsuru with that. Although Ken's a whole different story of annoying with the range, it feels like I'm dealing with Gordeau or something when I fight Ken except 3x more obnoxious. Thanks for the advice. No, Kikuichimonji is right. If a you do a lightning car C on Mitsuru at max range or so and she actually blocks it, it is completely safe as far as I know. If you're getting lightning car C punished on block by Mitsuru when used at range you're doing it wrong. Anyway to beat her jab straight on you can do 1. Lightning Car C for low profile 2. Sweep for chest invulnerability
Rhythmic Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Does anyone know the burstsafe combo paths? Or at least some burstsafe combos. I know anything into B issen can be made burstsafe (with either OMB or OMC 5B 5C 2C 214B) and there are some reaaally ghetto combos off 2C backdashes but other than that I've got nothing. I've also heard some people say that regular Narukami can use ZC to make some of his regular combos burstsafe but I don't see it, at best you'd make a jC safe to bait the burst I guess?
TheHitmarkersPro Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Does anyone know the burstsafe combo paths? Or at least some burstsafe combos. I know anything into B issen can be made burstsafe (with either OMB or OMC 5B 5C 2C 214B) and there are some reaaally ghetto combos off 2C backdashes but other than that I've got nothing. I've also heard some people say that regular Narukami can use ZC to make some of his regular combos burstsafe but I don't see it, at best you'd make a jC safe to bait the burst I guess? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msJKO5XCZcQ&list=WL&index=2 zc the j.Cs basic -- 2C FC > bdc 5B > 5C > back IAD j.C ZC > 5C > 2C > 214B -- 3436
Hollysmoke Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Can anyone give me any advice please on getting 214D > OMC > 214B consistently? It seems they always tech half the time. I try to do it as early as possible but the inputs are awkward since I have to do it so quick.
TheHitmarkersPro Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Can anyone give me any advice please on getting 214D > OMC > 214B consistently? It seems they always tech half the time. I try to do it as early as possible but the inputs are awkward since I have to do it so quick. Do 214D, hold 2, OMC, finish the 214 motion, press B 214D > 2OMC14B optionally, you can do 214D > 214OMCB Hollysmoke and PK Gaming 2
Sougo Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 So if the loktest changes goes through, would the change to Zio nerf our Zio Cancel? Since D Zio is now SB, we have to spend meter to do it, that's if they even keep D zio the same.
Hollysmoke Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Do 214D, hold 2, OMC, finish the 214 motion, press B 214D > 2OMC14B optionally, you can do 214D > 214OMCB It's a lot more comfortable when I start at 2 instead of 3. Why do some posts say do 3214D? (Also thanks for the advice)
TheHitmarkersPro Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 It's a lot more comfortable when I start at 2 instead of 3. Why do some posts say do 3214D? (Also thanks for the advice) I think if you do a microdash then 214B(OMC3214B), you can get the B lion to crossup midscreen allowing a combo anywhere, not sure how consistent it is though outside local play
Kikuichimonji Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 I'm personally more likely to mess up the OMC 214B by doing the OMC itself too late. If you are holding a forward direction when you OMC on the ground, you automatically and immediately cancel into a dash.
fruits_punch95 Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 So, guys. Is it true that SB command grab is gone in P4U2 2.0 (or at east in loketest)?
TheHitmarkersPro Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 https://www.evernote.com/shard/s317/sh/ae1b6662-b568-4460-b9b0-11cd141cbef8/79f2d9c15d200adf8b2b8e799ebc6c58 is someone ever going to translate this, I really wanna know what some of those numbers mean
Capablanca Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 I have questions about safejumps issues What if opponent delays ground recovery? In this case my safejump jB whiffs, then i have to guess 1)he wakes with block 2) DP 3) he uses A+C is there some universal solution, or option select issue that can counter delayed ground recovery? cause its very annoying
Tong Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 I have questions about safejumps issues What if opponent delays ground recovery? In this case my safejump jB whiffs, then i have to guess 1)he wakes with block 2) DP 3) he uses A+C is there some universal solution, or option select issue that can counter delayed ground recovery? cause its very annoying If they refuse to emergency tech you can add an airdash j.B, when you're about to land and see they didnt emergency tech, to safejump them anyways. There's no way to guess out of this one.
fruits_punch95 Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 If they refuse to emergency tech you can add an airdash j.B, when you're about to land and see they didnt emergency tech, to safejump them anyways. There's no way to guess out of this one. J2B hits opponents who delay the wakeup, it has worked for me
Capablanca Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 If they refuse to emergency tech you can add an airdash j.B, when you're about to land and see they didnt emergency tech, to safejump them anyways. There's no way to guess out of this one. u mean do airdash after i landed near them and saw delayed tech? or i must see delay during safejump and not do jB, but do airdash with j2B as Fruits_punch says?
Tong Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Yes, you must see the delay and airdash j.B. Watch these matches, the later bits, Grover does it all the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gxlJKaY4IQ j.2B can OTG certain characters but proper delay tech beats it, specially midscreen after 214C. Capablanca 1
Capablanca Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Are there any option select situations it this game? Or is there option select at all? Mostly interested in Kanji MU. After he has knckdwned me, he can either command grab me, or start his 5A string. I have to guess there only, right? same for Minazuki, although his command grab doesnt have invuls
Justice7541 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Can't really OS Kanji command throw mixup. Just have to guess. Minazuki you can fuzzy jump/hop but he can still frametrap you.
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