[Xrd] Potemkin Gameplay Discussion

[Scottie Yosh]

I like the new 6k! but RIP 2s..

[HunterSteven]

So anyone know how to do stuff like 6HS,Hammerfall break,2S and 6K loops? i cant seem to do the hammefall fast enough

[badgerfan20945]

So anyone know how to do stuff like 6HS,Hammerfall break,2S and 6K loops? i cant seem to do the hammefall fast enough

I've had this issue before. What helped me is hitting HS and P at the same time for the hammer break. That should give you the fastest hammer break possible. It helps to display the inputs so you can see if you hit both buttons at the same time.

[HunterSteven]

its more of an issue of the hammerfall comes out to late, but i'll try that, thanks.

[badgerfan20945]

What combo are you trying to do? Is it one of the challenges? like 35?

[Red Star]

its more of an issue of the hammerfall comes out to late, but i'll try that, thanks.

You just need to start holding back immediately after inputting 6k or 6hs, you can't wait to see the animation start up or you won't have the charge going quick enough. Same with 2s to 6k gatling, you want to input 2s>6k and start charging before it actually goes into the 6k. It does feel difficult in comparison to most of Potemkin's combos, at least to me.

[HunterSteven]

this stuffs really helped, im getting reps of the 6K loop now. thanks guys

[freelander]

How do you not normal throw people when you want to start some point blank combos starting with 6HS -> Hammerfall?

[raekw0n187]

How do you not normal throw people when you want to start some point blank combos starting with 6HS -> Hammerfall?

Just take a step back. Honestly outside of dizzy you will never get a point blank 6hs off pimp.

[Fishey]

How many reps of 6K can u do after hammer fall RC 2S 6K I can only repeat it once then it goes black....

[Koozebanian Fazoob]

Raw Hammerfall hit? Anywhere from 3-5 reps depending on the character you are hitting and how impeccable your timing is.

Few tips:

- Try starting with 6K first instead of 2S

- Don't 6K immediately, give them some time to fall down. Height is very important for maxing out rep count.

- If you are deep near the corner, walk backward a little bit first. The farther away from the enemy you are when you start your 6K, the easier the break timing is.

- The reps with 2S 6K are much easier to time, and push you back farther which makes the next raw 6K easier. But they also raise them up higher, so may reduce your total reps.

Try this for starters:

Hammerfall RRC, 6K HFB, 2S 6K HFB, 5H Heat

If you can do that reliably, stick in another rep:

Hammerfall RRC, 6K HFB, 2S 6K HFB, 6K HFB, 5H Heat

And if you can do all that, move your 2S 6K rep later and do this:

Hammerfall RRC, 6K HFB, 6K HFB, 2S 6K HFB, 6K HFB, 5H Heat

[Soviet Bear]

Potemkin's 236236S VS Ky's Greed Sever: in some cases it works, but in others I get hit by Ky's special. This is point-blank in both cases, but I'm not really sure why it works sometimes and doesn't at other times. I've had both scenarios happen up close and slighty farther, and both early and late in Ky's move. Anyone know what the proper timing should be to reliable grab him with the super?

[Koozebanian Fazoob]

Maybe this is a dumb suggestion but, just IB it and PB punish? It's massively negative on block. Or are you specifically looking for a way to deal with it so that he has no chance to RRC?

[KajiOkami95]

So I've come across many Ramethals and just wanted to share/level up on more knowledge. 
Some key things to note:
-You could flick the two swords she sends out. First time release are/should always be (S) Horizontal, and (HS) Vertical hitting. They are summoned to your current location so a very helpful queue to F.D.B them is to input it after she finishes saying her summoning vocals. 
-Her Pressure normals are all combinations, so if she inputs one button, more than likely she will be following the sequence. Something to be aware of is that the max number of combinations total to a number of 3 P's/K's. Majority of these leave her in front of you, but none of these truly leave her positive. If you can react on time, after she finishes attacking, you could P.B. (The main one I would consider a definite context of this example would be her PPP combination.  Still need to confirm others)
-Ramethals who use Darou during blockstrings can be punished with P.B as well. 
-Her wake up game is not great, so abusing jump in blockstun>P.B is important in this match up. 
-Of course adapt if they seem to expect it. A lot of Ramethals like to jump and summon, a H.P.B in the right spacing would call them out for it. 


Hope this was the right place to put this kind of post haha.  Apologies in advance if something sounds confusing.  

[Soviet Bear]

Maybe this is a dumb suggestion but, just IB it and PB punish? It's massively negative on block. Or are you specifically looking for a way to deal with it so that he has no chance to RRC?

 

It's because of the latter, yeah, but I'm also trying to figure out how Pot's moves work and this situation is quite confusing.

 

Also, will we do a match-up subforum, or just stick all questions in this thread?

[kekmasterflex]

So... first serious attempt at learning a GG title. Always play the heavy characters in "Anime" fighters / Charge characters in SF... that being said really trying to play Potemkin... but i'll be damned.. his command grab input.. just fucks me.. any advice? Also anyone got his new block strings down pack 2.P>2.K.6.K>HF?

[Fishey]

So... first serious attempt at learning a GG title. Always play the heavy characters in "Anime" fighters / Charge characters in SF... that being said really trying to play Potemkin... but i'll be damned.. his command grab input.. just fucks me.. any advice? Also anyone got his new block strings down pack 2.P>2.K.6.K>HF?

I find pots command grab input a lot simpler then 360.

6K Hammer fall u'll learn it once u do his 6k loops.

[kekmasterflex]

I find pots command grab input a lot simpler then 360.

6K Hammer fall u'll learn it once u do his 6k loops.

8/10 times when i go for it.. in actual gameplay i end up getting 6P the AA.

6K Loops, yeah i've managed to get 2 reps finally.. do you cancel the HammerFall towards the very last bit of the animation? I find that if i try and aim for the end of the animation... and take a slight breath to input 6k rather than mash it i'm able to get 2.. AKA it dosen't' have to be instant

[Fishey]

8/10 times when i go for it.. in actual gameplay i end up getting 6P the AA.

6K Loops, yeah i've managed to get 2 reps finally.. do you cancel the HammerFall towards the very last bit of the animation? I find that if i try and aim for the end of the animation... and take a slight breath to input 6k rather than mash it i'm able to get 2.. AKA it dosen't' have to be instant

Weird I never end up getting the 6P.

The 6k loops I think u need some 1 else to answer that for u I can only get 6k HFB 6K and nothing else. This really makes me wanna give up on Pot this 6k loop is just way too hard.

[kekmasterflex]

Weird I never end up getting the 6P.

The 6k loops I think u need some 1 else to answer that for u I can only get 6k HFB 6K and nothing else. This really makes me wanna give up on Pot this 6k loop is just way too hard.

Yeah never in my life have i been so challenged in learning a character. I mean you shouldn't stress the 6K loop so much.. its highly situational and there are other options i'm guessing. The only reason i feel like dropping pot is because every-time i go in for a grab i get 6P.

[Red Star]

8/10 times when i go for it.. in actual gameplay i end up getting 6P the AA.

6K Loops, yeah i've managed to get 2 reps finally.. do you cancel the HammerFall towards the very last bit of the animation? I find that if i try and aim for the end of the animation... and take a slight breath to input 6k rather than mash it i'm able to get 2.. AKA it dosen't' have to be instant

You want to cancel the 6k with hammerfall as soon as you can. Because you lose your charge with 6k you will usually cancel a little after you hit with 6k simply because you don't have enough charge to cancel right away. There is a slight end lag on hammerfall break so you definitely don't want to mash your next 6k. Personally, I've been practicing it on the ground, just 6k>HFB>6k from one end of the stage back to the other just to get the feel for the earliest possible time to cancel 6k with hammerfall and for the quickest timing for 6K after hammerfall break.  For your PB problem, really make sure to stress doing the exact input, this game is not very lenient on sloppy inputs like some other games.

 

Weird I never end up getting the 6P.

The 6k loops I think u need some 1 else to answer that for u I can only get 6k HFB 6K and nothing else. This really makes me wanna give up on Pot this 6k loop is just way too hard.

6K loop really is just a matter of practice. He has simpler damaging combos you can go for until you get it down, and pretty much all his other combos are really easy compared to the rest of the cast. Honestly, Pot has better reasons to give up on him, like how frustrating some of the matchups can be, especially once he is pinned in the corner.

[kekmasterflex]

 For your PB problem, really make sure to stress doing the exact input, this game is not very lenient on sloppy inputs like some other games.

 

 

You really aren't kidding. this game has no mercy on non completed motions.. still have troulble busting them out when i WANT to.. jesus the 6k Loop is easier.

[Garalian]

I'm having a lot of trouble getting bullet kai coming out after gigantier - as far as I know, its just two ICPM movements as soon as the cinematic bit of gigantier ends. I've got no idea when to buffer/input the movements and it only comes out once in a blue moon.

[Circuitous]

You really aren't kidding. this game has no mercy on non completed motions.. still have troulble busting them out when i WANT to.. jesus the 6k Loop is easier.

 

A clean half-circle is really important for Buster. Any dropped corners will ruin it. It's something you just need to grind out. Watch your inputs in training mode.

 

I'm having a lot of trouble getting bullet kai coming out after gigantier - as far as I know, its just two ICPM movements as soon as the cinematic bit of gigantier ends. I've got no idea when to buffer/input the movements and it only comes out once in a blue moon.

 

It's two half-circle-forwards and Punch. Input it during the superflash and hit P right as the projectile is appearing, you should get it consistently. I've found myself dropping it a few times just by being too late or too early... the window feels tighter in Xrd compared to +R.

[metrokard]

so um how do you deal with i-no...constant overheads to lows....always getting caught with no way out almost