[UNIEL] Hyde

[Tong]

It's actually negative on certain ranges, I get punished for it sometimes.

 

Hey guys I'm sorry for being lazy but is there some kind of document or link to Hyde's optimized combos? I don't really feel like messing around with fancy combos that are hard to do and only end up doing about 2.5k

 

Check this post:

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/8978-uniel-hyde/page-2#entry826617

[ipirate9]

Found my combo : 3C > vertical jump [C] > 66C > 214B > 4B (delay) > 4B (delay) > land > 3B > 2C > #1 ender or #2 ender**

 

**#1 ender : 214B > 4B > 4B : 3041 damage

**#2 ender > 236A > 236A > 66C > 623A > 214C  > 3797 damage

 

I'm actually quite confused as to how you are hitting 66C after the 8j.[C]    does 66C OTG?

[Zouf]

Yes. You have to immediately do it after landing. The timing isn't too hard.

[ipirate9]

I'll keep trying it. Didnt know 66C could OTG   Thanks for the clarification!

[Zouf]

Anyone found a great High Counter combo midscreen or corner? It feels like they are the same as our normal combos.

[ipirate9]

Is there any difference in the untechable frames from counter to high counter? I was trying to find that somewhere but I came up with nothing.

[Zouf]

Yes. High counter hitstun is longer than counter (counter rate is 1.5, high counter is 2, whatever does that mean (took it from Sourenga translated tutorial))

[LaowPing]

How do i block string with this character? I've been trying the delay rekkas but I just get mashed or thrown out

[Dandy J]

yeah its annoying you cant start a gatling with 2a and end it with 2a.

a new gatling ive been going for after seeing someone abusing it online is gatling into 6b (1 hit) 5c charge. if the 6b hits, you get a full combo after the 5c. if not, the charged 5c is like +1 so you can continue pressure or gatling into 2a for even more frame adv

this is basically most of hydes neutral. whenever you hit a button midrange it should be 6b into something

[Zouf]

(6b > 5[C] > 2a whiff)*n until opponent gets hit by any of those

 

Staggering is pretty hard in this game, the cancel window is really short, can't really delay stuff like in Melty Blood or even BB

[WintySoSolo]

no staggering has been messing me up big time, it's like ingrained in my muscle memory to stagger everything on block.

 

maybe everyone sucks at this game but I've had success at doing 5[C] 6B and catching people trying to mash after the 5[C].

[VR-Raiden]

The only thing you can delay significantly after seems to be 2C.

There's a little written up on blockstrings on the mizuumi wiki now, but it's not complete. It's pretty much what everyone's been saying.

By the way, if anyone wants to help with the wiki I encourage you to make an account and do so. I'm pretty slow with updates now for a variety of reasons.

[Zouf]

We can't make an account, it's locked. I wanted to add some stuff but couldn't.

 

edit : got an account, completed framedata

[Hollow Exia]

So I have been trying it for a while, now, but I can't seem to otg after 214A/B in combos. Can anyone help me with that? I try to do 3B which just won't come out instead I get 3C and if I try to delay it a little longer, 3B just whiffs and they tech. If I try to mash it out they just tech, This is getting frustrating cause most of his high damage combo routes in the corner include this rekka.

[Zouf]

Depends on your combo. You will not always be able to OTG with 3B, sometimes the hitstun isn't long enough.

 

3B picks up in these routes : 

 

6B > 5[C] > (B+C) > 214B B B > 3B > stuff

 

3C > j.[C] > (2C>5C)/66C > 214B B B > 3B > stuff

 

5C > 214A A > 2B > 214B B B > 3B > stuff

 

3B will never otg if you used 2A / 236A A before. The hitstun deterioration is too big after these 2 moves.

[Hollow Exia]

Depends on your combo. You will not always be able to OTG with 3B, sometimes the hitstun isn't long enough.

 

3B picks up in these routes : 

 

6B > 5[C] > (B+C) > 214B B B > 3B > stuff

 

3C > j.[C] > (2C>5C)/66C > 214B B B > 3B > stuff

 

5C > 214A A > 2B > 214B B B > 3B > stuff

 

3B will never otg if you used 2A / 236A A before. The hitstun deterioration is too big after these 2 moves.

 I was trying this basic combo and I still couldnt get it. This combo is midscreen BTW.

5B>5C>214A>214A>214A>3B>5C>j.C>j.6C>Dash>j.A>j.B>j.C>3C>214B>214B>214B

[Zouf]

Your combo works fine here. Are you sure you are delaying 214A enough? I dont have any particular trouble with it

 

I don't really like 214A outside of pressure tho. It's not reliable enough imo.

 

You should try : 5B > 5C > 214A > 214A > land > 2B > 214 B B B > land > 3B > 5C > 214B B B

 

Deals the same damage and is easier to do imo

[Skye]

How much damage does it do?

[LaowPing]

 I was trying this basic combo and I still couldnt get it. This combo is midscreen BTW.

5B>5C>214A>214A>214A>3B>5C>j.C>j.6C>Dash>j.A>j.B>j.C>3C>214B>214B>214B

I had problems with the rekkas too. You need to use the second rekka at the height of Hydes jump and use the third right before he hits the ground. 3B has to be timed, not mashed. Press it after the sound of the opponent bouncing off the ground. Have you ever seen Hyde crouch after the rekkas without the 3B coming out while the opponent is still on the ground? That means you had the chance to use it but pressed it a bit too early. The delay is the most important part though and is typically what decides if the combo went right or not.

[Hollow Exia]

I had problems with the rekkas too. You need to use the second rekka at the height of Hydes jump and use the third right before he hits the ground. 3B has to be timed, not mashed. Press it after the sound of the opponent bouncing off the ground. Have you ever seen Hyde crouch after the rekkas without the 3B coming out while the opponent is still on the ground? That means you had the chance to use it but pressed it a bit too early. The delay is the most important part though and is typically what decides if the combo went right or not.

Alright I'll try it that way.

[Zouf]

How much damage does it do?

2850 raw

[Skye]

Pfft

5b > 2c > 5[c] > j.[c] > 3b > 2c > 236b~236a > dash c > b rekka

A bit more than 3k. Easier to execute. I like to use it for punishes.

[Zouf]

I never said it was the best combo. I said he should try this route to train 3b link avec rekkas

 

Also, 5B is never a starter to begin. 6B does everything better.

[ipirate9]

Hey guys, any idea on how to confirm after a j.6C? i'm been trying > land > run > B rekka > otg into combo but I cant seem to get the OTG if the opponent lands midscreen after the rekkas. Anyone have a better combo?

Also @Zouf: I still cant get the 3C anti-air combo you posted on the last page :C Off a normal hit, the 66C just wont OTG :/ is there anyway you could link a video or something so I can see what its supposed to look like?

 

THANKS! 

[VR-Raiden]

Also @Zouf: I still cant get the 3C anti-air combo you posted on the last page :C Off a normal hit, the 66C just wont OTG :/ is there anyway you could link a video or something so I can see what its supposed to look like?

The trick to it is inputting the 66 shortly before you even land, and press C upon landing. I think if you try to input 66C right when you land it's too slow. The 66C needs to come out asap upon landing.

I added those 3C combos to the wiki, and there's a good amount written out for Offense section too now. Have something to add or disagree with anything, feel free to post up.