LunaKage

Really? That shit gets old real fast though, just to know that you lost because your character can't recover from ONE mistake?

Haters, the lot of ya, that's ok, because after suffering through CS1, I don't care if she's boring to watch, revenge is sweet. Also, I don't find her boring to watch because I play her, and can spot all the little nuances of what she's doing, I mean hell, I get pretty bored watching matches without Noel in it too, so I can see where everyone else is coming from, hell I didn't watch any BBCS1 streams from the past 6 months because I knew there would be no Noel.

How bout dat Noel blowin' errbody da fuck up?

I hope to all that is motherfucking holy that you are right.

Mu is part Vegeta and part Yusuke? gdlk guys, keep up the good work.

You guys call 63216C Shotgun? That's awesome, why didn't I think of that?

Right, but the problem is its not giving me that option, I get two options, one with an optional check box. "I have a slow connection. Never play higher-quality video." "Always choose the best option for me based on my player size." -"Always play HD when switching to fullscreen (when available)" I have the second option, along with the optional box selected, but it always gives me automatic 360p.

On that subject Cor, does anyone know how to get youtube to automatically playback in 720p? the closest I can get is to have them automatically SWITCH to 720 whenever I go into full screen mode.

Jin Vs Noel was a fucking boxing match, fuck neutral, just trading blows.

Nah, I'm judging by videos of the arcade version, I had thought about it before the PSP version came out, but when I got my hands on it, it even felt faster, so I'm just gonna assume its true, wont know for sure until we compare the frame data from the two games, but they haven't released the translated system data for the mook yet.

Yeah, Noel feels faster too, even Hakumen dashes faster, I think they just gave the entire game a speed boost maybe.

Yeah, pretty much.

Tager/Noel Has to be one of the worst.

Exactly, like CS1 Ragna. That's what I was saying from the beginning =w=

Well let me put it this way: Midscreen she is just as bad as everyone else combo wise, she gets about 1.8k off of 5B maybe more +Corner carry, however that same combo doubles as an autopilot scrub blockstring that has enough pushback to be almost unpunishable, that would take an IB, and someone with a long range 5 frame move to punish, and even then they have to dash for only two frames and hope they are within range of their move to punish it. My first time in training mode with the character, I got 4.5k in the corner off of 5B into that same easymode autopilot combo, except SoD wallbounced, so I was able to 6A > 6B > 6A > stuff I was just hitting buttons and it gave me 4.5k, meterless. I'd like to note that I'm not hating, or even belittling Mu players, especially because I'm pretty sure my character is gonna take the cake for this very same thing in CS2, I'm just stating what my impressions are.

Actually I was the first one I head say this, so maybe you heard it from me :P But yeah, that is why Mu is my new "I don't feel like trying very hard, but I wanna do 4k anyways" sub.

I'd still like to point out that I'm on the BB side of the argument, but I play a shit character that has a bad matchup against TAGER of all characters, so I'm a little Jaded on CS1. I'm sure if I played a mid tier character I wouldn't be nearly as pissed off everytime I sat down at an event and saw my opponent pick Ragna, or Hazama, or anyone really. Anyways I guess I should get back onto the thread's topic. LK how do you feel about Litchi in CS2? Are you thinking of picking up a sub? Do you think its better to play multiple characters? Do you prefer Asian women over the rest like most weeabos like myself do?

To be completely honest I would rather fight Sagat in Vanilla SF4 with Sakura than fight Bang or Litchi as Noel in CS1.

I thought about that too Mac, I just pray that we're wrong, and if we are correct, at least I'll be top tier.

I share this feeling with you honestly, looking at CS2 high level play it looks legit as fuck, almost like every character is viable, I haven't really seen a rape take place that was due to the matchup and not skill, I think the worst matchups in the game will probably be Tager/Mu due to the fact that Mu can zone and when she gets close she can space him really tight, and I'm sure you guys saw that Tager specific combo in the corner with her, he will probably have a tough time with her. Noel looked scary before I touched her, and when I finally did get my hands on her, I was sold on how she can be a force, however I do know her shortcomings as well, she has been and always will have a rough time with Zoners and characters that can space well, except this time around I don't think the match up will be quite as bad, since when Noel gets close her opponent's will start pissing themselves. The whole "Corner combo only" feel of the game also helps imo, because it makes the game more focused on positioning than landing just one hit for all of your life. The heat cooldown is another factor that caught me off guard, it is actually noticeable here, so if you wanna do any long 150 heat combos, you need to have a PhD to figure out what moves will prorate well enough to keep the combo going long enough after cooldown to stack that heat. All exaggerations of course, but my first impressions of the game are very positive, like it could be something BB players can be proud of being a part of. Also, my apologies if I've offended anyone tonight, I've been up since 6pm Monday, and for some reason its almost midnight on Tuesday and I haven't passed out from sleep deprivation and hunger since I haven't eaten either. My point is, I'm not exactly filtering the shit I say right now :P

Oh so you mean will bad players be able to abuse her tools without knowing how to really use her? No, probably not. Will they be able to win and or get lucky wins due to BS? Possibly, I still don't think she can top CS1 Ragna in that regard though.

You need to be a little more specific than that, advanced edge could mean a lot of things. Mac, if he's not on the list I haven't tried him.

I haven't tried all of the cast yet, but from the ones I have tried I'd say the newb tierlist would go something like this: SS: D mashing Noel(Just use 2C guys, promise, 2D is the only move Drive mashing Noels will use now) S: Mu A+: Jin A: Legit Noel(Hard to place her on this list because I'm not a newb with her ;w;) B+: Makoto B: Tsubaki C+: Ragna, Act Parser Spamming Lambda C: Platinum D+: Lambda D: Inferno Divider Combos(They get their own category) Seriously, Lambda and Ragna are so different it hurt my brain stepping into training mode and not being able to do what I normally do. Tsubaki is very similar to her old self, just better, even her standard BnB off of 5B does more damage, and it's the same combo as her CS1 self. Platinum is surprisingly difficult to just pick up. Jin is harder to combo with than Mu, but he still gets dumb stuff, I broke 6k just by doing a short combo into double ice arrows into TK C Icecar, was so lulz. Noel's combos are harder than her CS1 BnBs but easier than her CS1 OMGWHEREDIDYOURHEALTHGO combos, but the plus side is, Noel only has one difficulty level for combos, she has new haida, and BnB combos, both are the same level of difficult, and aren't too far apart in damage, chances are if you get a fatal with Noel you are just going to be doing the same combo you would do if you did 2D, except it will just be harder to mess up. Makoto's combos feel the exact same except faster, and I guess some of her old combo extenders now have same move proration, not too positive on that one though, since I know nothing about Makoto, her combos are still easier than Ragna's imo though.

This is actually why I replaced Ragna with her in CS2, because she IS newb friendly, I mean, I only take Noel seriously, so when I do pick someone else I want to be able to mash out random hitconfirms to pull out a win. 4.5k off of 5B hype GOOO!!! To be fair though that is in the corner, midscreen she is just like Noel, needs either crouching hit or optimal/fatal starter on standing to get damage. EDIT: I'd like to point out I meant newb friendly as far as combos go, I'm sure she's much harder to actually LEARN than CS1 Ragna, still though, gotta love dem hitconfirms.

I don't want to seriously learn any character other than Noel, so when I enter a tourney with her, I don't expect to win, I want to see how far I can get with my shitty character, so that I can hype myself up when she becomes legit again. Only two tourneys I went to I placed 4th and 7th respectively.