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He can still be playable. My theory is that Relius did capture him for a leverage against Litchi, but not in the way of 'I have your beloved. Obey us, or he dies', like the previous rumors go. His leverage is that in case Litchi tries to betray NOL, Relius sends out a memory-wiped Arakune to hunt her down and kill her. Of course, there's some part of Arakune's soul that Relius couldn't wipe out which can cause him to ultimately beg for anyone to kill him for real. That's my theory, and how I think we can keep the same characters likewise. As of how Relius plays, he could try to emulate some actual JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Stand System using Ignis. Ignis doesn't appear all the time, but on a snap of finger, she can teleport in and attack for Relius, kinda like most Stands in JJBA. Though, I kinda wonder the reason why Trinity is eyeing Bang. It's more than he has Houyoku Rettenjou. I would surmise that Trinity wants Bang to use it for destroying Hazama's Ouroboros, rendering him helpless, which brings Bang's dillema about preserving justice (by destroying Hazama) or save Litchi (and disappointing Trinity for a little while, I'm sure). I'm pretty sure he'll pick the second, though, because it will let Ragna be the one to kill Hazama, as it's always the main character who kills the main baddie. As of another speculation, Litchi joining NOL may be Mori's way to make her finally get another mean to control the Mantenbou with telekinesis or chi control, without relying much on the power of Boundary. So when Bang later cut her ties with the Boundary, she can still be a playable character in future BlazBlue games. If she kept relying on the Boundary to fight, when she is saved, it will mean that she's removed from the gameplay roster forever.

@Irikarul: It still could happen. If Litchi never told them what kind of person Arakune is, or even the corruption of the Boundary within her, Bang and Carl will have no idea on the reasoning behind her actions. How are they going to understand her motives of her joining, if she never told them? Perhaps they will think that she's like a damsel in distress, being forced to join NOL against her choice. But the most she'll confirm to be true would be she joins on her own will (because if she doesn't, she will wither and die, but I doubt she'll even say that), which would drive both in further confusion. @Infinity Climax: Okay, maybe so, but if it goes that long, then I kind of presume that when Terumi (probably not as Hazama) make his presence known, it's when NOL slowly starts going downhill morally, and it also causes the eventual victory of NOL, with Tenjou's death (he possessed Jin on the last moments after all)

Well... Carl wouldn't understand if Litchi didn't tell him what kind of person Arakune is. In fact, it just crossed my mind that Litchi never told anyone about who Arakune really is, even in Ragna's CT story in the beginning, at best she only gives him cryptic reasons of why he shouldn't off Arakune already. She never told anyone about this. So, if Carl finds out about what Litchi is doing with NOL, I would say he will be crushed... until he learns about Arakune and his relationship with Litchi. After that, he will understand as you say. And hell, I think if Litchi isn't telling, Hazama can spin more truth about why she joined NOL. He could easily tell Carl (or Bang) if they meet that Litchi is really a two-faced woman who betrayed them and everyone else who cared about her for no apparent reason, without telling them about Arakune. Such is the way of Hazama, trolling a lot. And now, for a non-Litchi speculation... If what Makoto said is true, about NOL going downhill after Hazama becomes more prominent... is it possible that before Hazama/Terumi came to the picture, NOL used to be a normal organization? I was thinking that NOL started getting totalitarian after Hazama came in, which eventually triggered the Ikaruga citizens to rebel and incited the Ikaruga War...

Hm, there's one thing that bugged me about Litchi's alt ending, since this seems to be more of speculation. After she killed Arakune, she was bed-ridden and Kokonoe rushed in to help her, ignoring her vendetta against Terumi for the moment and concentrated in an attempt to save her. Now, if Litchi did not kill Arakune, but never accepted Hazama's offer to join NOL, and waited longer... would Kokonoe still try to save her, forgetting her grudge with Terumi, just like her alternate ending? Thanks to the alternate ending, we know that if she doesn't join NOL, she only have months to live normally and stuck there. Also, since Kokonoe in the alternate ending seemed VERY determined to save her rather than being very sure that she has it under control with the current technology, does this imply that Sector Seven actually doesn't have an instant cure like NOL?

Really, huh? Last I read from Suzaku's translations, Tao made no comment about Litchi in the True End, so I suppose she just... forgot. But it's typical of Tao to forget, so I excused that. On the other hand, talking about future development, I'm starting to wonder how they'll take her relationship with Tager and Kokonoe later. Litchi pretty much has every reason to be mad at them for practically doing nothing until she ends up joining NOL, the problem is... will she be angry at them next time they meet, or she still tries to be civil, not blaming them? And then there's Kokonoe. Judging from her persona, would she even resolve to kill her as a traitor? Because she seemed to hate Terumi very much, and for her ex-disciple to join that man, it would be a very great betrayal on her and I think she might be driven to kill her off (unlike in Litchi's alt where she helped her, because she never did join NOL).

That goes really against her built up personality, though. Throughout Continuum Shift, Litchi no longer saw Bang as a creepy stalker like she did in her route in Calamity Trigger. In fact, they both interacted quite well and for once, in front of Litchi, Bang is not overreacting weirdly. Also, if Bang's story turned out to be true, then Litchi is pretty much indebted to him as he did save her from a certain 'death'. I don't think she'd be petty enough to

Talking with you has been enjoyable thus far, Ehecatl. I really get a lot of good insights from what I thought of her (from the negatives). I hang around a forum with the majority of users thinking that Litchi's act made her more annoying and unlikable and claim that those who likes her only likes her boobies (and they talk her down in short, unpleasant words). I really wish she can still be likable, as I said, I still want to like her, despite being stupidly selfish. Can likability and selfishness go hand in hand? Do you still like her the way you were before (this is considering she's one of your top faves), or you were also hit with the negativity like me and now liked her less (but still managed to be rational on describing her)? I'm hoping you can share with how you feel (sorry if this paragraph isn't about theory/speculations) And I do agree that if her erosion are getting on a rapid scale, her only option is really going to NOL for cure, it's actually pretty logical despite risky. If she stayed further in Orient Town, never willing to dirty her hand, she will turn into something like Arakune and the whole Orient Town pays the price of being consumed by her. She might've noticed that as well, thus her desperation to join NOL is now justified. As of Carl, all I hope is that if he did snap at seeing Litchi like that, there's still Bang who will defend her and try to restore his mind as well, along with getting Litchi to finally open up to her problems that she never shared to anyone (I would think that Bang stands more chance now that he can control himself to be not too over the top in front of Litchi, as well as her seeing him in a much more positive light, to the point that one of her memories she recalled before joining NOL includes Bang). Considering Bang and Carl never appeared in the True Ending, they might meet up on the way to Ikaruga and meet her together later. Or, perhaps, if my question about this in the other topic is confirmed, then perhaps your hope on him will come true because Carl snapping has happened in CS and Litchi has calmed him down (I assume that in Carl's last battle, he deduced that Litchi joined NOL, the organization of his father, which infuriated him very much even if she didn't say anything about joining, because they fought in a NOL branch.) Though I get a feeling that Bang's Houyoku may have a limitation: Maybe it's been used so much before it went inactive that it can only be activated once. Bang can only choose whether he want to cure Litchi alone, or cure Arakune per her request. And that's not when it comes to other theories on how he might be able to shatter Terumi's Life Link with his weapons, meaning he might not be able to cure Litchi at all if his Houyoku ran out of uses. Epic set. And Mori says we're not going to see them in a long time. This is why I hope I can still stay positive with Litchi until the next BB is out. Speaking of which, I wonder how did Bang fall in love with Litchi in the first place? They never mentioned it at all, do they?

I don't think she'd think about "YES NOW THEY'LL ALL BE CRUSHED BAUAHAHAHAHAHAH", but more of the lines of, "Bah, this town is insignificant if compared to Arakune. If they ask me to burn this town to get more info about the cure, I'm totally in." I sure as hell hope I'm wrong, though.

Whoa, that's quite the wall of text. And very civil too... thank you very much. Uh... you know? It's always more painful for the people to find out her activities red-handed, rather than her telling it herself. By not telling them anything, Litchi pretty much set them up for a bigger pain. She could at least tell who Arakune really is and why she cares about him a lot, without babbling towards science and all those complicated things. They could give her moral support, strengthening her will to go on and do her best, and when she left, they don't get thrown into confusion. Also, according to one of CT's endings (which are not the true one, but she probably would've realized), she stated that she's grown to like the town so much. Does that turn out to be a lie? She pretty much lied to the whole town and everyone else, telling them that she's grown to like and care them, but she never considered them friends at all. Now imagine Carl finding out about her being Relius' ally in a latter date, after she showered her kindness to him. I would premise that he'll be crushed EVEN FURTHER than last time. Basically, Litchi has doomed pretty much everyone that cares about her by not telling what she's doing. She thinks the world only revolve around her, Arakune, and to a little extent, Kokonoe and Tager, and to an even less extent, NOL. She forgot that her kindness towards Orient Town, Kaka Clan and the others could be turned into another strength to go on with her quest. This way, it makes her kindness seem like a lie to make her blend well in the community, and hell, if Imperator/Relius/Hazama told her to 'burn Orient Town, if you want more information', she might gleefully do it. After all, they're insignificant compared to Arakune in her eyes, right? Imagine you're a father, then you find out your kid has been pickpocketing all the time (in the middle of him pickpocketing). I know you'd be mad, but if instead your kid confessed by himself that he pickpockets and says he's sorry, would you be equally mad, or less or more? Also, Lott himself has told her that he'd rather her stop. Her not stopping would be dishonoring what he wished. She didn't have to necessarily kill him, and as she noticed, she should've been like Arakune now, but she didn't turn out like him, maintaining a normal body. Which means, her deadline was still long, she can still plan things out before even considering joining NOL. Though I will admit that I may be treading to the wrong thing, by mistaking what could possibly turn out to be a one-time mistake, into a trait that has been with her... Hopefully it's just a one time mistake... Lastly, while this is less speculation, Toshimichi Mori says that we won't be seeing BlazBlue anymore for awhile. For awhile as in... what? One more year until he announces the arcade version of the next installment of BlazBlue? That's quite a long time, for me to keep thinking that Litchi has completely fallen from being an universally kind woman into one extremely selfish individual (and like I said in my paragraph that you didn't quote, sounds like a spoiled girl throwing a hissy fit because her mother didn't give her what she wants). Sorry if I sound overly negative. I'd love to like Litchi the way I was when it's only Calamity Trigger, but with these facts, I find it hard to keep my feelings. I hope this healthy discussion can continue. Thank you.

Would that make Litchi unlikable? Because most people do. I've seen other people in other forum react with annoyance and declare that Litchi has gotten more annoying. See, the way she took her desperation instead looks like some little spoiled girl throwing a hissy fit, because her mother did not give her what she wants. This really makes her look really annoying. If she'd issue an apology to the rest of the people that she will leave behind for joining NOL, it would make her look okay. But here? It's like "Screw you guys, I'm joining the thing you hate. And I'm not telling why". This is like one of the greatest betrayals there is and she had no qualms for it. If she even told the people of Orient Town, or Kaka clan, or Carl, or Bang about the identity of Arakune, they will most likely help her, but she didn't, thus making her act questionable and unlikable. Really, can you condone for what she did, if you trusted her, but didn't know her intentions of joining? Thus, I don't believe her being cornered enough to look desperate. If Kokonoe and Tager refused to help them, she can turn to the people that trusted her for more information, rather than suddenly betraying them for NOL. I know she still has a good heart, but I cannot forgive her for betraying the people that trusted her. It makes her care, kindness and such towards them a big lie.

Okay, guys... bear with me. What I'm speculating... might be quite a downer speculation. However, I can't help but think that this is a very much possibility... Litchi has lost it. The kind woman we know is no more. Her love for Arakune has driven her over the hedge into extreme selfishness and made it that this world only revolve around him and her. This is why she would dare to join NOL, even while she knows that NOL is pretty much the 'public enemy'. Because she only thinks about her and Arakune only, the rest of the people in the world does not care about them (even though she NEVER revealed her problems to the common people). By joining NOL, she pretty much abandoned the common people of Orient Town, and the Kaka clan, all who thought of her positively. For her, nothing is more significant than Arakune. I wouldn't be surprised that if not stopped, and she hung around with Hazama too much, it'll be a matter of time until she develops the mindset of "This world can burn for all I care, as long as I can restore Arakune and live with him together." We used to believe that Relius coaxed her to join by capturing Arakune, but since that was proven false... then she did it on her own volition. Also, as seen in Rachel's story, despite in CT she thought she's a lost child, in CS' story, Litchi attacked her on the first sight and showed a very angry face. And this is before Rachel even reveals that she knew her joining NOL. This might be her true face that she concealed, one that only thinks of herself and Arakune. I know I sound overly negative, and Litchi was one of my favorites. However, as the current story goes, I find it that she's starting to get more and more unsympathetic with her actions. Confirm or Deny this possibility? Thank you.

I think it can go this way: Litchi will be looking through informations of the NOL libraries and found nothing about curing him... except one thing: Houyoku Rettenjou. NOL might consider it a missing Nox, but it can be assured that they store its information in the library. This will spur Litchi to look for the Nox, or Hazama orders her to anyway since they'd want to gather all Nox. This will lead her to Bang and quite possibly, Bang still doesn't know how to use the Nox since his mind is preoccupied with protecting Ikaruga. Basically, Litchi will know how to use the Nox, while Bang is the man who can use it (and they know what they want to do with it). So they have to exchange knowledge, although her NOL superiors might want to observe more on how she does her work, otherwise all bets are off. The problem is... Litchi is the type of person who kept her troubles to herself. She wouldn't even tell the Kaka Clan, Orient Town people or Bang or Carl about her problem with Arakune, otherwise she wouldn't need to join NOL as they'd be more likely to help the best way they can unlike Kokonoe. It has to take something for her to finally learn to stop keeping things to herself and open up in order to get things right. Though I do have another theory that might make this impossible (and it's not a happy one)