Sakaku

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzZZha1tSTs vs Kiba (Tsubaki). I wonder if gli's advice how to block Tsubaki's overhead had changed anything during these matches lol.

It glows? And we never noticed that?

I never tried ranked ... V: Oh and.. dem hieroglyphs!!1

Wait, really?

So you are basically saying me playing against Zoular, Hexa, Kiba, ... doesn't teach them how to play against Rachel... AT ALL?! Profound sadness.

Jin vs Rachel (Kohe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1PRekRQYIJY#t=506s Mu vs Rachel (Kohe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=j9OeCX1k5zM#t=8s Arakune vs Rachel (Kohe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=j9OeCX1k5zM#t=353s Bang vs Rachel http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xwAR06ucEFU#t=210s Litchi vs Rachel (Kohe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ToHMwAXu3yY#t=37s No Kure Hane.. I believe I missed a whole set pktazn uploaded a week ago. I'll edit the links if there's anything useful to see in this set.

Lol, just saw the end-paradox after you fight the giant flan. That was hilariously stupid.

Her midscreen damage increases significantly when using these combos instead of the 236B j.C jc j.C j.214C route. It should range from 600~1000. That's a lot. There's basically no reason to use the 236B j.C jc j.C j.214C route now as long as you don't want to combo into BBL. I don't know whether we get more damage if we use the new combo route into BBL instead of the old. Some testing should gain us insight. It doesn't seem to be universal though. I wasn't able to land it on Makoto and Noel, maybe delaying the 1D a bit more will help. Actually nevermind, it's just harder against Makoto. Just to avoid misunderstandings, I didn't make that video, pktazn uploaded it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjHjp2RkQes Shows different ways to combo into the new lvl2 j.2C j.214A 1D 5CC combo + variants. Will transcribe when I got time (aka not playing FFXIII-2) [combo 1] 5B 5CD 3[C] 8D 5B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 5CC (dash) 3C(1) 214C 3C(1) 214A 4469 damage, 46 heat gain, consumes 4 wind and regenerates ~2 stocks. [combo 2] CH 6A (dash) 5B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 214C 5CC 214B 3137 damage, 33 heat gain, consumes 2 wind and regenerates ~2 stocks. [combo 3] CH 6A (dash) 5B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 3C(w) (frog hits) (dash) sj.9 j.9 j.2C [lvl2] 2A(w) 5CC 214B 3206 damage, 36 heat gain, consumes 2 wind and regenerates ~1 stock. [combo 4] throw 7D (dash) 5B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 214C 5CC 214B 2948 damage, 35 heat gain, consumes 3 wind and regenerates ~2 stocks. [combo 5] 4B 5B 5CD 3C 236C (mini dash) 5A(1) sj.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 5CC (dash) 3C(1) 214C 3C(1) 214A 3447 damage, at least 50 heat, consumes 3 wind and regenerates ~2 stocks. [combo 6] j.A j.B (dash) 5B 3C (3[C]?) 8D 5B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 5CC (dash) 3C(1) 214C 3C(1) 214A 2526 damage, 44 heat gain, consumes 4 wind and regenerates ~2 stocks. [combo 7] CH 2C 2D (dash) 4B 5B sj.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 214C 5CC 214B 2879 damage, 40 heat gain, consumes 3 wind and regenerates ~1 stock. [combo 8] CH 6B (dash) 5B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 5CC (dash) 3C(1) 214C 3C(1) 214A 3095 damage, 35 heat gain, consumes 2 wind and regenerates ~2 stocks. [combo 9] FC 5C 236A (dash) 5B 214C (dash) 5B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 214C j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] 2A(w) 5CC 214A 4326 damage, at least 50 heat gain, consumes 4 wind and regenerates ~1 1/2 stocks. [combo 10] FC 5C 236C (mini dash) 5B sj.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 214C j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] 2A(w) 5CC 214A 4494 damage, 43 heat gain, consumes 3 wind and regenerates ~1/2 stock. [combo 11] FC 5C 236C (mini dash) 5B sj.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 214C j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] 2A(w) 5C(w)C 214A 3C(1) 236A 236A (dash) 6A BBL sj.8D j.2CD 5C(w)C 214A 5566 damage, consumes 50 heat, 55 heat gain , consumes 5 wind and regenerates 0 stock. [combo 12] air throw (land) 5B j.B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 214C 5CC 214B 3464 damage, 38 heat gain, consumes 2 wind and regenerates ~2 stock. [combo 13] CH j.C (land) 5B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 4B 5B sj.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] 236B j.C jc j.C j.214C BBL 214A 236A (dash) 3C(1) 214C (frog) 236A 3C(1) 214C 3C(1) 214B 5081 damage, consumes 50 heat, 65 heat gain, consumes 3 wind, regenerates at least 3 stocks. [combo 14] CH 6A 5B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) (dash) 4B 5B sj.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] 236B j.C jc j.C j.214C BBL 214A 236A (dash) 3C(1) 214C (frog) 3C 214B 4593 damage, consumes 50 heat, 62 heat gain [combo 15] 5B 6B 5CD 3[C] 8D 5B j.C 2D jc j.2C [lvl2] j.214A (delay) 1D 5CC 236C (frog hits) 236C (dash) 5B j.C jc j.C j.214C BBL 214A 5CC [...] 5470 damage, consumes 50 heat, 59 heat gain, consumes 4 wind, regenerates 4 stocks.

Litchi (Hane) vs Rachel (Hyaku Shoku) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=acC4tP8AUGY#t=483s Taokaka (Eroge Ma) vs Rachel (Kure Hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zxY_dhfGmNc#t=384s Ragna (Shacou) vs Rachel (Kure Hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=haA4ylRx2GY#t=3s Rachel (Yoruno) vs Ragna (Sugiyama) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HD2i7xx3etQ#t=12s

So basically I should be able to fall in love with XIII-2 because I liked XIII (no troll)? Fine with me.

FFXIII-2 hits EU tomorrow and Amazon still hasn't shipped my copy, whhhyyyyyy.

Lambda (Yoshiki) vs Rachel (Memai) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Gx4JxcxrbX0#t=393s Rachel (Kure Hane) vs Arakune http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X3mrKKk_jUA#t=222s -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X3mrKKk_jUA#t=350s Holy shit that was sick. -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X3mrKKk_jUA#t=440s Oh my god. Rachel (Kure Hane) vs Noel http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X3mrKKk_jUA#t=487s -> At the beginning he tried something like CH 6A (dash) 5B j.C 2D j.2C j.214A 1D 5CC [...] I tried it out in practice mode, it's not that difficult, nets us 3,3k damage and some nice corner carry into knockdown. The combo I did was CH 6A (dash) 5B j.C 2D j.2C j.214A 1D 5CC 236C (dash) (frog) 3C 214C 5CC 214B. Rachel (Kohe) vs Ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VErJc9wjGBI#t=13s Rachel (Kohe) vs Tager http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IKEZEa35yKg#t=283s Rachel (Kohe) vs Ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IKEZEa35yKg#t=505s Jin vs Rachel (Kure Hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3UerKURt_Os#t=137s Carl vs Rachel (Kure Hane) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3UerKURt_Os#t=354s edit: missing videos: Jin vs Rachel (Kohe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Pv1YPsoj0ws#t=35s Carl vs Rachel (Kohe) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Pv1YPsoj0ws#t=287s

Valkenhayn's 6C actually has HB attribute. Every grounded overhead has at least a B or a F attribute I believe, so Fluck should be right.

You are unfortunately correct. 6A doesn't eat projectiles anymore (tested with Lobelias, Ice Swords and Ada projectile). As soon as Nago touches the projectile, she gets CH'd. It isn't much of a drawback if you ask me, except maybe for the Jin MU. We still have 5B, even though it's harder to space. As for guard pointing BF attribute moves, she also gets CH'd. The sad thing is, that's also the case for HB/F attribute moves.. It won't guard point against Ragnas 5B(HB) or Valks 5C(HB), no matter how often I try. Things like Noel's 2D(HP) will still be guard pointed though. Thankfully your AA assumption is correct too. I guard pointed j.C (Ragna), j.2C (Haku), j.C (Valk) and j.2C (Mu) without having to care where I hit them.

I think they use the same animation for both throws. Either it's an error or they really increased the recovery. I'll compare CS2 and CSE backthrow once I'm at home. edit: Seems like an error. Both whiff and hit have the same recovery in CS2 and CSE.

I haven't even noticed the recovery got higher lol. You can still do 7D dash 5B without any problems.

The only thing I (we) can confirm that's changed is 4B only once per gatling and 6B not jc-able anymore. Just zipped through the frame data, either I'm comparing two wrong tables or she got damage buffs on some normals. V: Errors: (?) One sylpheed stock apparently has 10000 units. That doesn't make sense if you compare it to wind regen. - 2B does 480 damage (?) Tempest Dalia should be Tempest Dahlia (it's also wrong in the CS2 frame data) Quick overview of the changes, not everything double checked (without guard primer taking info). Sooo, all these damage buffs are overshadowed by the character combo rate change? V:

Ahhh yeah, I totally forgot about that lol. If it was me, I probably wouldn't even play on it, just to put it in some kind of glass case to gaze at the art. :3 Do you still have the picture you posted a while ago?

You seem like you don't enjoy playing on a stick at all. Weren't you already very good with pad? Why switching to stick when you're already confident enough playing with a pad? Tournament issues? :/ Playing Noel over and over again is worst.

Too lazy to write anything useful right now, so I just leave this here: http://www.dustloop.com/guides/bbcs2/systemGuide/systemData.html Scroll down a bit.

Don't you mean Rachel mirrors are broken? V: This shit doesn't even make sense especially when you block like 30 seconds and try to figure out how to escape 6B corner pressure orz. I'm glad we didn't record tbh, nobody would want to watch it.

That's the point. I had to wait 2 weeks for a digital code. But japan-codes is actually reliable? Cool, I never wanted to order from them.

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?13208-BBCSEX-Match-up-chart

I got her yesterday too. Had to wait over 2 weeks for play-asia to send me that stupid code. Using Type B obviously. The only thing I dislike "countaaaaaaaaaaaah". Anyways, Noel doesn't feel like she's that bad, lol.