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by hunkering forward with his elbows on his knees like a manly man? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1hUNyuzeQ&feature=youtu.be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1hUNyuzeQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ1hUNyuzeQ#t=13m28s #t=13m28s! science! :I

i am actually not terribly impressed with those examples since it seems like he could get more out of his OD, though it's interesting to see what hakumen can do with a flexible, low recovery super the double j.2c > 5a relaunch made me "wat" more than those did but the main reason they do so is Hakumen hasn't been able to do anything at the start of the round until OD happened.

It's risky to relinquish the burst and I'm not sure if the tactic will be utilized that much down the road in terms of high level play. If you have an aggressive play style, it can be justifiable to take those 3 mags at the start of the round, particularly if your neutral is weak in a particular matchup. However, another drawback to doing so is that you can't use OD in combos (for very large damage), can't use it to invuln through things and punish whiffs, etc. I personally find it's probably better not to waste it early on, but I don't think it's so risky as to say that noone should use it. It's a bit to see Hakumen players go for that tactic and then they get their ass handed to them the first half of the around and they're sitting on 8 stars while getting pressured/combo'd, though... I do think it's interesting gameplay to have the option being remotely worth considering. 3 stars isn't anything to scoff at early on in the match when you otherwise would have far less power to establish a lead.

I'm pretty sure I saw that in an early vid, but didn't seem terribly remarkable since Hotaru wasn't a fantastic combo starter after CS2 due to its proration nerfs.

yeah, i just meant how in the video the plat bursts during 5c, he whiffs enma, then still has time to 5c. i wasn't talking about enma going through bursts.

i'll catch up with the video thread tomorrow. really? i thought it seemed to drag on forever in this video. it looked strange to me.

speaking on this, isn't it kind of a big deal that we can whiff enma during a burst and still have time to punish with 5c?

it looked like he could have easily 5a'd to punish it in that clip if nothing else, probably also 5b. he whiffed the throw pretty early in that burst

there was a ragna match that was basically like "this is what agito is good for" but now i can't find it?! i surely i posted this somewhere EDIT: I'M GLAD THIS CAME UP cause i never posted this massive video to the thread and it has lots of hakumen. anyway this round pretty much shows just the AA Agito stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFdJBQfyFKg

it can be combod out of into good 1 star damage on counter hit, which is a realistic occurrence if your oponent is too AA happy. since it doesn't have head property it can beat careless AAs pretty hard

i am awake this morning. videos inc [11/26/2012] Click! [Junji (HK) vs. Nashi (AM)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Junji (HK) vs. Nashi (AM)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Junji (HK) vs. Nashi (AM)] these are from the previously posted set, reposted for op convenience [11/26/2012] Click! [Q (AZ) vs. Mido (HK)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Mido (HK) vs. Kichiku Megane (CA)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Mido (HK) vs. Natsunoa (BA)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Mido (HK) vs. Natsunoa (BA)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Harusuke (HZ) vs. Araki (HK)] [11/26/1012] Click! [Komoji (JI) vs. Mido (HK)] [11/26/2012] Click! [biriou (PT) vs. Mido (HK)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Kinji (RG) vs. Araki (HK)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Harmless (RG) vs. Araki (HK)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Naga (RG) vs. Araki (HK)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Harmless (RG) vs. Ouka (HK)] [11/26/2012] Click! [Four (RG) vs. Mido (HK)]

zantetsu(1) floating makes me giddy.

he wouldn't die even if you killed him?

youtube comments make me cry. you can follow up yukikaze but i'm not sure there will be a reason to do so in this version without dustloop combos or if it's even possible to add meaningful damage besides slap tsubaki at the end my verdict on the matter: http://puu.sh/1uOWR

just hit parry again honor your title

it makes sense, but it seems better to me to remove the matching letter all the same so you only have distinct ones

isn't shippu 10F startup in CSE?

re OD: i paid attention to this and found that a lot of times it did not seem like a particularly balanced game plan to OD at the start of the match for 2 stars. it seemed like something certain players did who played more aggressively than other hakumens, but i personally found it was not worth relinquishing their burst for two stars. a lot of time they would end up pooling at 8 stars getting pressured/combo'd when it was kind of a moot point. i can see why some are doing it, tho. also 6d being 16 frames start up is about as useful as a "DP" gaining invulnerability on frame 16

I don't believe they do have different amounts of barrier; Amane in particular is just capable of doing absurd barrier/chip damage. He also has to level drills quite a bit to get to that point IIRC, but I don't know a whole lot about it.

lambda should probably be changed to nu in the OP to keep current with CP. do not want to confuse newcomers and vets can deal should probably be a to go with it ... also pet peeve: didn't hakumen used to be abbreviated as HK to avoid confusion with haz? sorry to be excessively OCD!

idk but hotaru has much lower P2 as i recall here's a bunch of fun snippets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yg4XXUwR9M#t=15m30s 5c Renka(2) dealing 3k midscreen with no ender http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yg4XXUwR9M#t=82m50s 2a purple ??? may only work if they aren't hitting barrier tho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yg4XXUwR9M#t=84m35s damaagggeeee. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yg4XXUwR9M#t=86m31s CH 3c -> 2.7k with Gurren only http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFdJBQfyFKg#t=7m11s corner carry combo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFdJBQfyFKg#t=57m36s CH 6b -> 4.2k with Zantetsu only guys i want this version

edited with fixes. thank you i thought so as well, though i didn't see other character threads using them for some reason (which is why i asked.) oh i forgot to reply to this: ctrl + F! More videos for today: [11/25/2012] Click! [Fuwahiyo (HA) vs. Buppa (BA)] [11/25/2012] Click! [Fuwahiyo (HA) vs. Uido (BU)] [11/25/2012] Click! [Kisaragi (HA) vs. Harutoman (HZ)] [11/25/2012] Click! [Fuwahiyo (HA) vs. Yutta (JI)] [11/25/2012] Click! [Fuwahiyo (HA) vs. Yutta (JI)] [11/25/2012] Click! [Mumin (HA) vs. Buppa (MK)] [11/25/2012] Click! [Mumin (HA) vs. Buppa (MK)] [11/25/2012] Click! [Mumin (HA) vs. Buppa (MK)] here we go [11/25/2012] Click! [Fuwahiyo (HA) vs. Yumura (TG)]

I think PRFArmy switched to Azrael ): This video is on youtube (and in the video thread) now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr0zFRA0gzs#t=7m10s (part in question) total damage was 5813 for 10 stars and OD

now using spark's format instead ~jeez~ (sort as needed, added the ball icons to make it easier to sort through them for C/P purposes) are they all supposed to have bullets like at the bottom under combo and stream? [11/25/2012] Click! [???(BA) VS ???(HA)] [11/25/2012] Click! [???(AZ) VS ???(HA)] [11/25/2012] Click! [???(HZ) VS ???(HA)] [11/24/2012] Click! [shouma(LI) VS Kameria(HA)] [11/23/2012] Click! [???(MK) VS ???(HA)] [11/24/2012] Click! [Kiara(PT) VS Kameria(HA)] [11/24/2012] Click! [Nosuke(PT) VS Kameria(HA)] [11/24/2012] Click! [Koji(RG) VS Kameria(HA)] [11/25/2012] Click! [???(TA) VS ???(HA)] [11/24/2012] Click! [Kuresu(TS) VS ???(HA)]

i don't remember where i saw it, but there was a video where someone did hop hotaru and the new jump thing for it (the supposed nerf) made him glide forward instead of just fall ready to be punished. I don't know if this means it's difficult to punish, but the player in the video didn't punish it at least. and there's still agito to make it safe again, and as people have stated multiple times, meter is less of an object in this version as it was in others. now where did we leave off on the video thread also, spark posted about this before but here is really obvious kishuu going through burst: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSG59kxp2yQ#t=1m40s