Elochai

Might've not seen this correctly, but it seems that 5B CH causes float? Makes me wonder if you can combo into 236D > stuff or 5B CH/air hit > 2B > j.B > j.A > etc.

Shinjuku Ladies 1on1 1/11: Junpei vs. Elizabeth Yosuke vs. Elizabeth 1/26 Singles: Elizabeth vs. Mitsuru

I suppose the "hard to balance" argument is a fair one, and I somewhat agree (as formerly stated though, this isn't an excuse to shrug balance). I think if one asks most Liz players how to make her more "in sync" with the rest of the cast, things like better mix up, increased utility of x tool, better pressure, etc would all be mentioned. The fundamental question, though, is "to what extent can you improve her w out her becoming ridiculous? " Perhaps it is to be said that this is why she's better in awakening, because it's "fair". She would be better without the prerequisite of losing a ton of HP. Nevertheless, this whole discussion is really just roundabout honestly. No matter what, in the end, we're just going to have to "deal with it." I guess this is the kind of discussion that we're led to when the footage of our character is in stagnation . Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Now on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeW9oi_AIKg

I wouldn't exactly say that. More like Elizabeth's buffs don't outweigh her nerfs, so she's "worse" overall. Additionally, most of the cast got marginally better, which adds to Elizabeth's greater weakness. Plus, she needs to be in Awakening to receive her buffs anyway (lol). I like how Luminos put it: I feel this was kind of how Elizabeth was in the first version as well (tools that aren't necessarily bad standalone, but everyone else just has way better stuff).

I don't plan on switching characters, regardless of how bad Liz is. Granted, having fun is the most important thing (this is what games are for anyway), but I don't think any character gives me the enjoyment that Elizabeth does. There's just something really satisfying about playing her; probably in that she requires you to be solid to win (plus, she's a total waifu). I'll wait and see what happens, development wise though. Who knows what's still left to be found? Btw, I don't quite like some of the Hama combos that've been recorded. P4U Hama combos seem kinda cheaper in regards to resources (if memory serves me well). Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

Carmine perhaps?

Not at all. You obviously give me a fair amount of challenge, and you're far from being a bad player in general. You're not free. Running the same stuff over & over makes you predictable, so I never do it. Imagine if I always did 5D after knockdown. You'd always just jump away, and there would be no point. I'm glad that you think my play is rounded, though.

Damn, I'm using new tech lol? I seriously wonder what you're referring to. I've been using the same gimmicks for months now.

GGs Zeal. Will I ever beat you in a long set, lol? It always seems like I win the first few games, and then get straight bodied until we stop playing. Where are you anyway? Midwest? Dunno why we can't connect lol.

Just made one. It's on fast connections though. See what's good. Only playing until 8 EST or so though.

If I had a good connection to you, I'd join your room. I can't even connect to it lol.

Something like this perhaps?

I still think this is it. The 5D FC combo kinda convinces me of this as well. This player seemed to "freestyle" the combo. In regards to the damage comment, maybe this is because Liz has Randomizer now? No one uses it, but I don't believe that it is a logical leap to assume that the "missing damage" is going to come from getting people into NP. Weren't there supposedly setups with Randomizer (at least in the loketests)? Pulsr's impressions kinda make me sad, but it's sensible I guess. I never expected Liz to get that much better anyway lol.

1/29 A Cho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfisC0Zx99Y

Got a room up for about 30-40m. Edit: GGs all. Edit2: Didn't wanna triple post. GGs Flux/Dinotail. I can't block for shit online.

Venue fee is $10 (if you plan on staying past 3H iirc?). People still play BB here.

Most sticks are 6-8 buttons. When I first started out on stick, I admittedly had a macro for burst. Macros aren't really needed though since the buttons are so "accessible".

The Dempsey Roll is weak. He needs the evolved version if anything . Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

GGs to my room. Everyone left so early. I played bad and now I'm super unsatisfied. I want runbacks lol.

A-Cho 1on1 1/5/2014 Elizabeth vs. Narukami Yosuke vs. Elizabeth A-Cho 2on2 1/5/2014 Aigis vs. Elizabeth Narukami vs. Elizabeth Elizabeth vs. Teddie

Does Relius have any combo routes to avoid the super fireball?

Has anyone even seen SB Mamudoon? If it's as fast as Hama (+ had good recovery) was in P4U, then it'd be useful.

Yes. Netplay is coming "soon".

Now on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxIq0Olk4Jw