BlackYakuzu94

Not being able to spam gravitons, fireballs and lightning makes it significantly easier to get in on her now, so that's probably a reason.

I'm gonna guess "guaranteed startup" means that the move will always come out after the initial startup frames; am I right?

If we can't even talk about speculation of all things, then I don't see much of a reason to post in this thread until something relevant comes along. So I'm just gonna lurk the sub forums for my info.

How can we be informed if we don't talk, isn't that how information spreads to begin with?

At the very least we can speculate a tier list based on the footage we've seen and heard, can we do that? Is that allowed.

That's like four different iterations isn't it lol

[10/17/2014]Yuukichi(Hazama) vs. Hikaru(Hakumen)[Notes]Tachikawa Singles [10/17/2014]kimura(Litchi) vs. Hikaru(Hakumen)[Notes]Tachikawa Singles [10/17/2014]UNDER(Tager) vs. Hikaru(Hakumen)[Notes]Tachikawa Singles [10/18/2014]Kureiji(Hakumen) vs. gunma(Rachel)[Notes]Kakiri O Sanshou [10/18/201]Kureiji(Hakumen) vs. ikegami(Bang)[Notes]Kakiri O Sanshou [10/18/2014]Aya Nagi(Tager) vs. Kureiji(Hakumen)[Notes]Kakiri O Sanshou [10/18/2014]Musuubi(Ragna) vs. Ryuushi(Hakumen)[Notes]Kakiri O Sanshou [10/21/2014]Nowaru(Izayoi) vs. taku(Hakumen)[Notes]Mizonkuchi Taito [10/23/2014]?(Hakumen) vs. ZEL(Tager)[Notes]Playspot Big One [10/23/2014]?(Azrael) vs. ?(Hakumen)[Notes]Playspot Big One [10/23/2014]?(Jin) vs. ?(Hakumen)[Notes]Playspot Big One [10/23/2014]Kouya(Noel) vs. ?(Hakumen)[Notes]Playspot Big One [10/25/2014]?(Litchi) vs. ?(Hakumen)[Notes]Urban Square [10/25/2014]?(Nu) vs. ?(Hakumen)[Notes]Urban Square

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0#t=2482 Grab>Kishuu>6C works. Probably could have did something if the combo didn't drop.

At least we're being civil about it.

Didn't know 4 years was such a large gap :V

You guys are making me feel mad young right now.

It's opinions more than anything and how much the respective person does in the matchup.

Play that bitch like a zoner.

I laughed, but only because of how depressingly true it is. But surprisingly, I'm ok with that list: Hazama, Litchi, and Valkenhayn are pretty much guaranteed to be top-high at this point, they're the best characters that control space and have decent-high damage with more resources; they're just really well designed characters in general. Bang kind of surprised me, I haven't really kept an eye on his changes aside from the sample video with that crossup nail, but I'm sure there's more. If someone could explain, I'd like that. I'd imagine Nu would be better once they got rid of her stance change and just kept her committed to one style, in this case her zoning which means she can play keep away some more :D If Carl's that high, that means Nirvana still doesn't die as fast as she used to. so yea. Ragna being there was already explained by Titanium, but yea, dat damage son plus the fact that he's already pretty solid. Everyone else are either mostly unchanged, or got massive nerfs to boot them down there(RIP Azrael and Kokonoe) or they're still undiscovered as of now. Izayoi going up makes sense and she really fucking needed it. Kind of sad to see the likes of Kagura, Amane, and Terumi still so low tho.

...Woah.

Patience isn't a virtue of mine and fighting sorta needs it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Real talk tho, has Hazama ever been below A, at all?

Pretty much, he doesn't really have much of a game plan so his damage needed to stand out somewhat.

New Belial Edge the god and proration buffs on certain moves.

Ahh yes, the obligatory tier list and the freakouts that come with it, lemme get the standard reactions out the way: "ZOMG VALK PLS NERF" ", I ALREADY CAN'T FIGHT NU NOW SHE"S BUSTED D:" "HOW CAN ANYONE EVEN BLOCK CARL" "LITCHI IS STILL TOP TIER? FUCK TEAM BLUE" "GAWD, WILL THEY EVER NERF HAZAMA?" " IT'S EXTEND RAGNA ALL OVER AGAIN" Ok, now that that's out of the way, Hakumen dropping to B was kind of expected considering some nerfs, but still disheartening. arcsys sure love their main characters, first Narukami, then Sol, and now Ragna. :V

This is me except with 2D.

Goddamn, if that list is legit, what the fuck did they do to Valkenhayn to wear Kagura is better than him. Oh, that makes sense.

Me, you, FT40 after my semester is over. Let's do dis :V

Thanks man, we appreciate the help.

I mean that's just it; you wanna know more about a specific character, go to that character's subforum and if you don't really care, just avoid it.