LegendaryRath

Keep in mind that it was Ted's day 3 Koko, with basic-ish combos. There's more stups out there, and the one he was using wasn't being confirmed correctly. Give him time and Ted will body us all. I'll cry once he can confirm into 4k minimum off everything and TOD in the corner. That corner "setup" is broken by the way. It isn't something you can escape from unless you are one of a select few characters (like Azrael ). It's just one long touch of death combo that resets proration in the middle. edit: I'm glad that we all get good experience with her though! She's fun to play against and it would suck to go into a tourney not knowing what to do.

Jimmy does. And Brian's good at wiffing atomic-collider in 720.

I'm hoping to set this up tonight. Having some trouble contacting players though, so we might just run an open stream where players can set up FT5s and such from in the chat. Maybe I can get LK or brkrdave in there as well to play, since they were picked for their own sets. I will most likely be streaming on MastaToken's channel http://www.twitch.tv/token FluxWaveZ, if you see this please respond or send me a private message regarding whether or not you can play tonight. You're our last hope.

GGs last night! Feeling solid with Azrael now where I can confirm off most situations correctly. Gonna start working on subs for next time. You just haven't learned how to combo off black hole properly yet. You'll become enlightened once you get that one down.

This can happen on every character and is solved by slightly delaying the final hit of TCL.

Indeed he can. I heard that Koko has more damaging combos that could be optimized more, but there's no point since they can TOD tager.

I'm just gonna leave this here

I actually don't fucking know. What the fuck.

awesome! it seems like the good stuff doesn't work on all the characters I get experience with. IAD combos are so swaggy.

If Kokonoe has sufficient evidence to prove she's ridiculous, then that means I was right. AND I LOVE BEING PROVEN RIGHT. But in this case, I'd also like to be proven wrong. So Ted, please I hope you're right. Win Win. Also, I'm not too concerned at the moment. I can get out of a lot of her stuff with Azrael and I plan on being the one guy that makes sufficient use of phalanx cannon stocks, and she might let me do that. Until I get pure bodied by a good kokonoe, I'm gonna ignore her. Kagura is BS still. He's like a persona character bought his way into the BBCP country club. Easiest DP in the game and hardest to punish. persona damage. persona oki. Zoners and characters with strong neutral probably don't mind him though. edit: I heard SKD was gonna play day one Koko tonight in tournament. When he's up, I hope we can turn on the stream.

It's really hard to, since I can't really find anything. All I've done so far is find character specific answers to SOME of her bull. Like literally 14 hours straight yesterday awake talking to a group of players on Mumble, trying to find SOMETHING to do about her and we just keep finding more tech and reasons to hate her instead. If SKD and other players actually switch and main her, like they're saying, then R.I.P NEC. Although, I don't want her to be banned, and I don't want her to be patched yet either. give her one major, like NEC, to show everyone what she can really do, and if certain aspects of her gameplay end up actually breaking the game, then asw will know what to do. Hopefully anyway.

I'll bring a console but no monitor this time edit: I'm going to spend the bulk of my day tomorrow working on a sub, since I've only really practiced Azrael so far. Who should it be? Considering Hakumen, Relius, Ragna, Rachel. Hakumen just because I played him in Ex, but he looks really boring this time around so maybe not. Relius looks ballin, but hard to do well with at first Ragna actually looks like he has fun combos now I meant to learn Rachel ages ago, but she doesn't quite fit my playstyle. Regardless I need to learn to deal with zoners better, so she could be my ticket inside of their minds.

What's up?!?! You should come play blaz tomorrow night!

Dipstick is right about ps3 games NOT working on ps4. The system architectures are too different. If they wanted to let us play ps3 games, then they'd need to add hardware within the ps4 to make that possible. We all like the $400 dollar price-point right? Make that 5-600 easily if they did that. Gaikai will (hopefully) one day let us play ps3 games on the ps4 though.

whoever tried it did the setup wrong. There isn't a gap. edit: so here's how it works. the lightning hits meaty and has recovered before you even tech. The super is invul longer than any reversal and is active enough to pick you up after something like inferno divider.

I didn't realize you were testing specifically kokonoe, my bad. Does IAD j.A work after airborn TCL? If not we'll need to use 3D to end strong midscreen combos.

I would not consider doing this combo in actual matches on any characters that it didn't work consistently on.

there's ways to alter the setup to make it work on haku. it wouldn't surprise me if smart kokonoes could find more stuff out.

which character are you practicing on? I can do it consistently, but have noticed 236D wiff on Jin occasionally.

The black hole is fixed in place. By moving forward and pushing Kokonoe, you'll be free of it. Most characters can't do it though

It's day one and people have found enough tech to win the next 5 majors with her. There's talk of banning her at NEC. I don't want her to be banned or anything, just fix any huge obvious problems that show up in the next few weeks. The more bs people find now, the better. If it isn't found until after they patch her, if they patch her at all, then we're boned.

I love the intro between Az and Koko. It's probably my favorite so far.

the black hole super has invul for days, no... months. that setup beats invul moves and supers. That setup beats rolls, no tech, blocking, mashing, etc. Bace also found that he could make it burst safe, so that option's out. Certain characters have specific escapes though, the easiest being Azrael's growler field. Bang can 6D the meaty lightning and C teleport out. I think Yukikaze gets Haku out and lets him punish kokonoe recovering from the black hole. You need to be creative. I'm sure people will find something, or we'll just wait for a patch.

she invented it

Kokonoe has a setup where the only answer to it is burst preemptively . This super combos into 7k by the way. This video shows it beating respectful blocking, rolling, delay teching, invulling through it, etc,etc. Burst is the only thing so far that works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHjnYQ5--fg