NecroTheReaper

At this point I'm starting to doubt we'll get any info until after we're already playing 2.0. We don't even know if we even have to pay for it, do we?

Anne doesn't want the topic gettin derailed by aesthetics. Otherwise, discussing the way characters look like "bitch bitch, I hate that Noel gets TWO outfits). Not quite the same, but he really doesn't want people discussing aesthetics cuz it leads to arguments.

Planning to get into this game on US, had small bits of experience with the first one, but playing it on my hitbox, one thing always bugged me. Does D not get used enough to warrant re-mapping it somewhere other than below C? This is how the default is, and some things look like they're easier to -understand- this way, but it looks uncomfortable to me since I got kinda big hands. If it is uncomfortable to some, whats another basic mapping that people use?

I live in Texas, arpund DFW area. So I guess gettin a 1 bar for that distance is understandable.

Well if you're gonna get a set in with someone good, I don't wanna intrude xD like I said, you'll probably beat me a lot.

SWD, after the hardcore trolling you gave me I'm surprised I dont flat out dodge you xD it was like "How many times can I hit him woth the bullshit aspects of characters?"

... toan doesn't have his psn on here. I've seen him online before, but can't remember how its spelled.

Use 2D. Its expensive, but it'll really open up a lot of mixup opportunities. I wasn't using it enough at first honestly. Also, crossup j.2D is still good even if its more telegraphed than other mixups (it pays for being more ambiguous). I feel kinda stupid for that argument, mostly because I was needlessly splitting something in half.

And some times under a blue moon while the planets align, you can beat Rachel 6A with low air dash j.A. Only expect it to work once. Hitboxes and avtives are weird some times. Also, did you do IOH j.A on my wakeup every time last time Errol and I just never put the pieces together to block high? I mean when I wasn't testing dash ley or dash OD (which shouldn't be possible in that situation anyway lol)

Indeed Myoro. You cant trust that just because someone ends on disadvantage, they can't still beat mashing. Really hard to beat Noel cuz she has a 5f standing jab that hits crouch. Honestly, I got lucky the other night and managed to IB Errol's j.A>j.B and magically mashed 5A out. Intentional, but did not think it was gonna work, so II'll assume Errol might've had a slip or somethin.

At least Errol doesn't post it to youtube like this http://youtu.be/zM5G9d5I16w Seriously Oso, I will get you back for this. Aaaaanyway, Errol, you have any idea on when Toan is usually on/free? I'm really lookin forward to gettin bodied.

So... I should really be using more C. Got it xD Mostly my led leying was experimenting, seeing if I couldn't ease the assault of Rachel's Storm of Mixup. We played till 4 AM my time so after a while I started gettin risky xD. Led ley isn't a bad neutral tool though, just a bad defense one.

He can, but so can she. Mostly committing to anything from full screen can lead to death without a hard read. Led leying swords helps approach too. If you're out there then Toan, would you mind beating me? After sounding like a jackass lately (apparently) I wanna step up my game and get some hardcore feedback about what I'm doin stupid or smart stuff that I don't do enough.

I already caved on the issue Errol. Mostly because we ended up arguing the same point through different words in the end. Anyway, no need to get the match finder locked, others would be pissed. And I would Myoro, if I specifically wasn't searching for someone I would go 30-50 and 0 with. I'll play some other time though: O

Its been a while since Iwent looking for a match instead of just taking someone's invite. Mostly cuz I want someone who doesn't get bored with destroying someone. In other words, who's stupid good that I'll probably never take a match off of? Cuz my neutral/callout game needs some serious work. Realized yesterday I never really take into account the opponents options for being in the air, what they can do, what I can do to them for trying, etc... I don't wanna be bad no mo

But if I mashed reversal Vinum, you'd just safe jump it... or just jump over it xP xD. Honestly, when they're easy as hell to combo in to bothers me more. I'm sure others feel the same way about Relius' astral. Relius astral the best astral.

What you could do is xx>air hit 2C>IAD j.B>j.C>6B>ender is how I see it workin. Wont know anything till it hits arcades. Maybe then we'll get some real info on Relius.

Looking at chrrent frame data, we should be able to do IAD>just about anything. Its got 26f untech on air hit, so if 9 of it go to jump and air dash startup, we have 17f goes to anything we want. If air Lauger is 14-16f startup like I remember it, you could even do that.

Eh, I'm not on, got kinda tired. I'll need to test it eventually cuz i do find a few bang players heee and there that I get screwed out of oki on for not being able to finish a simple combo. Referring back to 2C jump cancel, I guess you're right in that we will get some good combo utility out of it. If 3C jump cancel is really removed... eh, we'll adapt. It'll be tough, and I'll be sad, but Relius hasn't had a moment below A tier really.

Ignis, the oki machine, unable to set up oki? Of course this can't stand xP. Honestly I havnt fought a lot of Makotos, just like I'm sure those Makotos havnt fought a lot of Relius...s...s

I have the same floating issue with bamg in the corner, but with regular combos. I have no idea what does it though, cuz sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. I've tried delays with 2C>6C but it doesn't seen to matter much.

In ranked you dont get that option. Also in ranked, being player 2 still screws me over cuz Relius' stage isn't friendly either Dx but I get to headbang. Thats always a plus

Lag just screws up buttons, there's not a defined way how. I try to do Tus (214C) in some connections and get Vinum (23663214C)

Yeah, it wasn't really what you said as much as someone not liking the answer they gave. Just a lot of people disagreeing

I meant to say some characters Lich, my bad. Just that very last sentence in your guide under the fuzzy. But anyway, for someone just being curious as to why they hear that Relius is well rounded enough to be strong but not OP, this turned into a huge thing. Can we get back to being paranoid about 2.0?