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A theroy how Terumi's Hazama bodies(including Kazuma) were created by Relius who used what remains of Ripper explaing his eyes always shut thing when does it.

Noel has way too much factors of Saya and has too much of her memories so it;s impiled to be a soul transfer into number 12 because Think the bodies was maid from the Es-Nu's but with fragments of Saya's memories plus Noel is one of the main trio and Izanami states that about Saya is the body not her saya herself so Saya might have some fragments within the Possessed body like Nu inside Lambda's.

Anothor reason why Noel is Saya in a different body is that unlike Nu she is more looks like her and even as Mu-12 she still resembles her I think there's more to meets the eye with Noel....

Well I do it's just i kinda know most of time.

Can you more specific?

Perhaps Tsubaki would have some form sympathy on Rags and if Noel is Saya would try to reason with Tsubaki. Also the real question is how would Tsubaki react to Hakumen being Jin? Also you didn't answer my question about Terumi's crest.

Although Ragna is still swearing it seams that he tone it down a bit in CP.

Also about Terumi's crest It resembles a caduceus, or "herald's staff", which consists of two snakes coiling around a winged staff. In Greek mythology, it was carried by Hermes, a cunning trickster god who could freely move between the boundaries of worlds as an emissary of the gods and conductor of souls into the afterlife. I think it maybe referencing his time working with Izanami who is a Goddess of Death and himself.

Your opinion I guess:sweatdrop: Although Noel and Jin shippers are still about Though it's still hinted that Noel is Saya herself in a different body and that technically makes Nu still related to Ragna though:sweatdrop:

But we still have to know who is inside the master unit. Also I find it funny that you ship RagnaxNu since Nu is well technically Saya his errm sister.

Yeah you know in the next game Hakumen having a pre-battle intro where Jin transforms into Hakumen,just saying.

Hey I just ask if Jin and Hakumen became one that's it.

What about the Imperator? What I am trying to say is that unlike the other Murakumo units Mu-12 has two forms one is Noel her "normal" self and Mu-12 being her true form adds the theroy of Noel being Saya.

So what's gonna Happen to hakumen in the fourth game? Is he going to be a super mode/true form to Jin? Ahonther reason why Saya is Noel is that Noel unlike Nu can access a base fighting form. Plus Noel Vermillion could be saya and Mu-12 is the murakumo unit form of Noel like a super mode.

I guess your right so did you know why Ragna,Jin,and Saya are related to Achit,Sechs,Toya,and Akira. I know this is a pain but they seem to share some similarities so i'm just asking.

It was probably Bolverk repressing her memories dude.

Shinhwa was it implied that lambda like Nu inherited some of Saya's memories?

Oh that you don't trust that?

In TvTropes When I was hollow101 Noel,Lambda,and Nu had the trope Soul Fragment for that reason but it seems that Noel carries most if not the full Soul of Saya while in her orginal body had a few fragments. Also they gave Noel Bolverk to keep her from remember who she really is I guess.

Soul Fragment? While Noel is Saya's Soul Jar and Izanami's"vessel" had some fragments as well.

Well according to Zedar in Libarary mode the reason why Nu is so attracted to Ragna is because of Saya's soul within her so Yeah.

Something must have happened in that time of XBlaze that caused the birth of the Master Unit Amatertasu Like Izanami attacking and many people died. Also answer me this thing How was Ragna,Jin,and Saya created? They were hinted to be artfical so, I would guess they were maid from the DNA's of Sechs and Achit. But Ragna and Jin had the powers of the Azure and Order Like Toya and Akira,So Ragna and Jin's souls are recycled from Toya and Akira's. So what are your thoughts?

I guess the scientists working on N.11-13 and Saya might have been struggling against Izanami so they decided to get rid of her by sending her in Noel/Mu's vessel.However Nu had some fragments of Saya's soul inside her while the full Soul of Saya was transferred into Noel/Mu.

Well I guess they maid a mistake and accidentally had Saya's soul into noel/mu.

Okay but some Xblaze had something to do with Amateratsu's actions.