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Hey guys.. what was the date when you could pre-order the JP version? I'd like to have an estimate for the US version

So... any word on the US Pre-order Date for Digital?

I generally just use 4A+B, 6A+B etc.. it shouldn't be that hard to do on pad IMO. You'll get used to it. Also, found something weird with Seth's j.214A on CH: i tried doing CH j.214A > 5B > 623A > 5B > 623B > 214AC > 6C and it doesn't work when i try to land the 6C. I try it again at a lower height and it works. Here's where it gets weird: This combo works if i can get the 1st hit of j.214A alone BUT it also works if i get both hits to land but at a lower height. What doesn't make any sense is that CH j.214A and CH j.214A at a lower height shouldn't matter that much because it's the same combo and both hits are landing from j.214A. This is something that bothers me. Don't know if this is well-known already but any explanation to this is welcome.

Damn.. i didn't know EB Games still existed.

I don't think that's it.

What am i looking at here? Im a bit lost..

I'm not the best with Gordeau.. but i don't mind using him against you. Im also learning the Vatista matchup and i've played you quite a bit already so we could both be learning lol

Correct me if im wrong here... but i could've swore she could do 3.8k no meter midscreen off of a throw. Is that not considered stupid in terms of damage off of a throw? or?

I understand what a 50/50 is.. and i really don't see what Seth has that's a 50/50 besides what i explained. There are instances to where he can fake a assault j.C by free falling.. but that's just gimmicky because both options are easily reactable. He doesn't really have a reliable overhead either.. and his blockstrings are ok but not that threatening. Like i said in earlier posts, a lot of the stuff he can do people don't realize how to interrupt it. Not saying you guys don't... but a lot of people don't.

Yes

I believe it does.. but like i said he's too far away to really get anything started..

I feel like they should decrease the pushback on his throw. It leaves the opponent too far to get anything started and Seth loses momentum for attacking which, doesn't really make any sense at all. I'd like to see that change as well as the change i said earlier on his 66B... that needs to be something else lol

What 50/50? The only 50/50 i can think of on oki is a 50/50 between either his command grab or just attacking. And his command grab is too unreliable because half the time it doesn't even want to come out.

Do you still feel that it's 5/5? Seth's neutral may not be as good as you think and he can't "fly without risk". The Seth player has to calculate where and when he can throw his orbs out unless he wants to eat a fireball. Hyde controls the neutral against him, the player just has to be patient in what he does and Seth will get shut down. Seth also gets screwed when pressured because he has no meterless DP. Hyde can literally keep him in a corner and Seth can't do anything about it. Seth's pressure in terms of teleports are free because Hyde can DP him on reaction, and Seth's pressure isn't that threatening. If anything this is 5.5/4.5 Hyde's favor IMO.

Does anyone feel like 66B should be removed and replaced with something else?

Played you earlier.. ggs man. Kind of wished you accepted my 1v1 request earlier :p

His tools were nerfed even more than before... he gained some stuff but it feels like they don't add up to the nerfs.. ill have to wait and see until i get my hands on 2.0 Terumi to see if he's worse or better.

Im getting really scared for my sadistic main (Terumi) >_>.. ill make it work somehow but damn lol. Still early impressions so meh..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BjHdhlHwCA At around 2:52 he does 5D > 6B feint... it looks like it got a tremendous range reduction (correct me if im wrong though) but a recovery reduction.. it'd be sick if we can bait DP's now with it

His frames are ok.. but they could be better. He definitely needs at least 9k health.. give him 9k and im cool. I enjoy the execution to be honest... i dunno why but it's fun practicing his hardest combos. After awhile, his combos become pretty easy so when you get the game you won't have to worry about taking 7 months to practice one BnB lolol. I agree that damage isn't "everything" but people are really misinformed on what he can do to be honest...

Why do people say he has low damage output? Im doing like 3k+ off of a 2C with no meter and no vorpal... which is also a low. He gets 4k off of a 623C + Chain Shift... and he can easily get 4k+ using full meter. Hell... doing his VO combos is netting him 5k... and he has multiple ways of doing it as well. He may not have as much damage as some characters.. but in no way does he do low damage.... people want this dude to do 4k off of one hit (no vorpal + no meter) lolol

j.214A is not + on block.. but he can cancel the move into other specials as you already know.. so you sort of have to respect it. If 623A isn't working that well.. you can do 623C instead if you're willing to burn the meter. If you aren't.. you're best bet is to try and force the Seth player to mix it up a bit. His options after teleport is j.214A, 2A+B (Force Fall), 4A+B (Airdash backwards) and j.214B. Grim Reapah should be blowing up these options pretty easily.. so im confused on why it's not working that well. 66C is a high... meaning you can crouch block and make it whiff (Correct me if im wrong on that). 623A with Seth is -4 on block (safe) unless you Shield Block it (Becomes -7). Then again, like you said Gord is too far for the punish anyways.

Im assuming you're joking?

I can honestly see where he's coming from... even if it's not true here in the forums we really don't need this type of mentality if we want GG to grow. There's too many people who have this mindset to where it's like "Oh.. this character is easy to use... pick someone harder scrub!". We don't need that...

Guys.. should we make a 2.0 thread? It would probably be easier to do that instead so people don't have to dig through all of these pages just to find info about it xD. I'd do it myself, but im not good at things like that :/