Tiamat

I'm pretty sure that won't knock down though

Thanks a lot I'll try these out. really sucks about flimzee's account too cause I wanted to look at that video again

ah yeah sorry I wasn't clear, I was talking about Ky/robo ky to do 6K BL on and get a 2 hit, it's cause someone told me they did it and then I couldn't get it so I edited that into the post to ask are you saying some characters are totally impossible to do 6K BL on after a throw? or just impossible to get the 2 hit BL? my Ky throw combo is throw > dash H beast frc > TK BL x 2 and my robo ky one is same thing but with 2H BL instead of TK BL x2. I would use the same combo for both but I can't seem to get a knockdown if I don't distinguish between them. for the more normal characters I know the combo is supposed to be 6K BL > tk BL > dash 5K5H BL but I can't get the 5K5H for the life of me. who is the easiest character do to it on (other than potemkin cause a blind person could BL loop him) so I can try it and work up from there? I got more questions but I'll try not to bombard with all of them at once. thanks in advance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAOUa4ifb5A I'll add some stuff about this matchup later.

Pick a different character if you know they are gonna play Baiken. I'm serious. here is the only video where Anji wins on youtube to my knowledge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAOUa4ifb5A great play from Anji to be sure

yeah marlin's venom is sweet

beginning, the end is the recovery time where you can hit him or throw him

I couldn't come up with a better idea so here's my 1337 post...I'll just post some match vids from the last tournament that I was really rusty at and did not play 1337 at. but hey...kenji is still pretty 1337, though I have certainly seen him do better as well. some of you have seen them already kenji(an) vs marlinpie (ve) *only first 3 matches http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5826469864620246234 tiamat (an) vs gwyrgyn blood (po) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1873957247947776407 kenji (an) vs xaq (di) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QmUV1pQNp0& kenji (an) vs shazay (sl) *only 1st match http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwQbNKqc0Lg& anji (tiamat) & sol (vr) vs slayer (wallstreet) & aba (moroha) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYUp_3m4fAU& anji (kenji) & sol (hnh) vs slayer (wallstreet) &aba (moroha) 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkMX2Rft0J8& also domi > lime key > ang but execution wise ang > all other anjis

jS autoguard only active when you have almost reached the ground so you'll get hit by VV before it activates in all likelihood. as for 6H, it's not a horrible move just not a particularly good move either. it does have an frc point on it for safety and combos. it is a very late frc though. on coutnerhit 6H gives you combos which happens for me every now and then, and then I drop the combo cause i don't react in time and my jump install looks like no attacks with just me jumping up, lol. even though it is unsafe, since it is not a popular move you will probably get away with not being punished for it a lot. there are some situations where you can take advantage of the autoguard on it in butterfly oki and stuff I think. I've seen it every now and then that after knockdown > butterfly they will do 6H, which is certainly backdashable but beats some stuff and has ok guard build you mean you're using his orb to stop your momentum in the air to dodge things? lol just use jD, it's like 100billion times safer

edit: crap didn't look hard enough, ill edit into this post if i have another question before someone else posts. was trying throw combos on robo and dash frc beast > 2H BL is easy but not the best you can get, just havin trouble doing hte one i saw posted in the vid thread question...what do I do when I set a zeinest oki and they get hit by the zeinest (cause of failed reversal or something)? I'd already be doing 6P5S or 2K5S so I can go into air combo from that or on lotsa characters can just do 5H BL. air combo i assume is what im supposed to be doing since it does more damage but I'm having some problems with it. what's the best standard combo to do in this situation? another problem I'm having is when I set a hitomi as oki and try to iad over them for the crossup, they cna throw me before I jump. how do I solve that problem? is it only good after certain knockdowns or something? also, someone tells me it's possible to get dash 6K 2 hit BL after a throw. can anyone else verify this? i cannot get it for the life of me

5S after nagiha frc it's kinda tricky, not really essential by any means but good to have in arsenal to save some meter. if you RC though it's easy as hell to do anything you want

if you look hard probably...

FD jump and backdash when there's even the smallest gap in his strings so that you don't have to deal with his retarded overheads like 6K and dust if you get thrown out of 5H you are doing it too close. you should use it at distance here are a couple of my matches against slayer from a couple months ago to show you roughly what you should be doing good spacing in this one I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9OyRmbSuo& FD jumping: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6echv1T1IRg you really gotta space well against slayer or you'll die pretty badly. even if you space really well it's still a tough match though. methinks 6-4 adv for slayer, the damage difference is just too great. you can find plenty of vids of me losing on youtube too I'm just putting those as examples of what you should try to do

I think it's the most damage you're gonna get and the damage on that is more around 200ish I'm pretty sure. when really close to corner instead of doing 2D into FB rin, you can just do Nagiha instead and frc or RC it. if you FRC you can fujin loop a little on most chars and if you RC you can do 236H KS On like normal

yea he is damn youtube for being nazis

looks like you're right after all, he can block it if his 2D is almost over when the meaty happens. however it will not hit fujin I thought it was guaranteed cause the move doesn't have good recovery cause of match experience but testing shows otherwise

if slayer is using the late frames wouldn't it be the opposite and he'd be more likely to not get hit? I do think reversal Fujin is guaranteed but I'll check it later. Regardless, if he does 6K instead he can throw you after it misses (or possibly get a 2K maybe). fujin "mix ups" aren't a good idea on any character really lol. also I doubt blocking fujin yields free damage for slayer, if the S followup doesn't interrupt your move (only IB into 2H might beat it) i guarantee the P followup would deal with that

i dunno I think we both want to do our own thang! lool guide will be updated later today with some things (nothing stupendous) and then I'm gonna put a link in my signature for easy access

iora: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=220366&postcount=22 I will make some revisions to my guide soon but there are some good combos in there for you to try.

lol hi smp

there are some important variables to consider such as blockstun of the move you did into shitsu, as well as the distance. just because they can do something does not mean that they will do it, either because it's at a distance where they can't do it by reaction, or because you've got something that covers you

well getting hit by stun dipper still sucks cause it shifts the momentum in his favor at the very least sol's grand viper is the worst cause unlike the other two, it actually works as a wakeup reversal to go under shitsu. stun dipper and BBU can't. also sometimes BBU gets hit by shitsu I dunno why

everyone ignored my mostly useless finding! that was like my first post with any info in months. urgh butterflies in blockstrings are still good against ky but you have to be more careful with them and not do them after certain moves like 2D. so when should you do it? well look in the anji vs ky thread or something...fuck a ho... edit: wow I actually didn't mention it in my post there. uh...hmm :8/:

lol really? wtf? i never saw that post before lol anyway chomite posted some stuff from a korean guide a while back and I found something that wasn't specifically mentioned but similar to some other things 5H into 6P is not a gatling, but is faster than it should be. if you don't believe me try it yourself. you can even get it to combo if the 5H was a counterhit. when doing the 5H hold 6 and mash on P like crazy, faster you mash faster it comes out, or so it seems. interruptible like the similar ones but maybe slightly useful and it's kinda nifty.

I still don't understand his love of the HS VV. his iad combos from WT were hot in that match though and great command grabs. chalk up another win for kaqn over isa though:gonk: