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This thread is for noteworthy BB:CS Rachel videos, both match and combo, and discussion of said videos. Let's keep it strictly post-release for the purpose of knowing what works and doesn't work in the final version. I will index combo/tutorial-type videos in this post once they start coming out. Rozen Maiden Rachel CMV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jvF-4Va8CI Princess Rachel combo video by MaDao: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3KcQR4gNtY ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- High level BBCS Rachel players: Matsu (マツ), Omitan (おみたん), Aoniku (青肉) Players confirmed to have ditched Rachel cause they are shallow and won't date lolis in wheelchairs, along with who they use (from videos): MSY [Ranga], H.H [Litchi, alts Rachel], Eru (える) [bang]

Reserved for future expansion.

This list has now been taken over by kro_'s combo video transcript! Thanks kro_! Transcript and descriptions for Ma Dao combo video seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jvF-4Va8CI 1) 0:00-0:04 2b 5b jc j.3db j.c 5b 6dc j.c 5b 3c 214a - 1735 dmg Starts with a low attack, pushes the opponent to the corner with 6c, ends with knockdown into frog oki. 2) 0:05-0:11 5b 2d jc j.b j.a dj j.b j.a j.b j.c 5b 5cdc 236b IAD j.b j.c j.214c land sj.c dj j.c - 1907 dmg Ghetto double overhead starter. Frog combos 3) 0:12-0:16* 5b 5cdc 214a 3c (1-hit) 236a (x2) 3c 214c 3c - 2760 dmg A frog BnB on 3c midscreen characters ending with knockdown. Requires 1 wind. 4) 0:17-0:21 5b 5cdc 214a 3cd (3 hit) 236a (x2) 3c 214c 3c A frog BnB variation for 3c corner-only characters like Ragna and Jin. 5) 0:22-0:28 5b 5cdc 214a 2b 236a (x2) 6a 214c sj j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a A frog BnB variation for non-3c characters like Hazama, Lambda, and Carl. 6) 0:28-0:33 5b 5cdc 214a 2b 236a 5cc 3c - ~2200 dmg Universal corner frog combo ending in 5cc wallbounce. 7) 0:33-0:38 5b 5cdc 214a 3c 236a 5cc (236a whiff) 3c Corner frog combo ending in 5cc wallbounce on 3c characters. Creates an extra pole. 8) 0:38-0:47* 5b 5cdc 214a 3c (1 hit) 236a sj 8d 2d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 3847 dmg A damaging frog BnB for 3c characters. Requires 3 winds. 9) 0:48-0:57 5b (6dc j.c x2) 5b 5cdc 214a 3c 236a (backup a bit) 5cc (236a whiff) 3c -~3600 dmg Combo that carries opponent to corner and ends with 5cc wallbounce on 3c characters. Requires 3 winds. 236b combos 10) 0:58-1:03* 5b 5cdc 236b dash 6a 214c sj j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - 2740 dmg A universal 236b BnB. Uses 1 wind. 11) 1:03-1:07 5b 5cdc 236b dash 3d 5cc dash 3c - 1920 dmg 236b combo ending in 5cc wallbounce. Must be somewhat near corner. 12) 1:07-1:12 5b 5cdc 236b IAD j.214c 6c j.c dj j.c - ~2900 dmg 236b combo incorporating IAD sword iris to move closer while keeping up the combo. Throw combos 13) 1:12-1:16* b+c 7d dash 5b sj j.b j.a j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - 2237 dmg The old CT throw BnB. Uses 1 wind. 14) 1:17-1:21 b+c 5b 2d 5cc 5cc 214b 3c 214a - ~2200 dmg Corner throw into 5cc wallbounce that sets up pumpkin and frog oki. 15) 1:21-1:27 b+c 7d dash 5b jc j.b j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c 5b sj j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - 2809 dmg Air combo extender after throw BnB. Uses 2 winds. Other 16) 1:27-1:32 6a 5b jc j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c 5b sj j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - ~2500 dmg Air combo extender after 6a. Uses 1 wind. 17) 1:32-1:38 3c (delay) 9d 5b jc j.b j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c 5b sj j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - ~2100 dmg Air combo extender after 3c. Uses 2 winds. 18) 1:38-1:44 3c (delay) 8d 5cc 236b dash 214c dash j.b j.c dj j.b j.c j.236a - ~2000 dmg Alternative combo from 3c starter. Uses only 1 wind. 50% heat combos 19) 1:45-1:55* 5b 5cdc 214a 3c (1 hit) 236a (x2) 6c j.c 1d land 632146c 236a (x2) dash 3c 214c 6c j.c jc j.c j.236a - 4350 dmg A frog to BBL BnB on 3c characters. Requires 2 winds. 20) 1:56-2:06 5b 5cdc 214a 2b 236a (x2) 6c j.c 1d land 632146c 236a (x2) dash 3c 214c 6c j.c jc j.c - 4270 dmg Same as above for non-3c characters. Just use 2b otg. 21) 2:08-2:22 5b 5cdc 214a (walk 1 step) 5b 236a (frog hits) dash 6c j.c land 632146c 214a 5cc (whiff 1st hit) dash 5b (frog hits) sjc 8d 2d (lvl3) j.2c 5cc (whiff 1st hit) 214a - 3669 dmg An advanced corner only frog combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Makes use of 5c whiff c wallbounce to refrog the opponent after BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Requires 3 winds but regens 2 winds during the combo. 22) 2:23-2:32* 5b 5cdc 236b dash 6a32147d6c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 4761 dmg An advanced midscreen 236b combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Uses 6a and 7d before BBL to increase opponent's height. Rachel then dashes under the opponent and uses the momentum to catch the opponent falling from BBL with lvl3 j.2c using just 1 wind. Requires 3 winds. More throw combo setups 23) 2:32-2:40 b+c 6d IAD 6d j.a j.c 1d 5cc 5cc 214b 3c 214a - ~2300 dmg A midscreen throw combo into 5cc wallbounce that sets up pumpkin and frog oki. Uses 3 winds. 24) 2:40-2:45 b+c 9d dash 5cc 5cc 214b 3c 214a - ~1900 dmg A somewhat near corner throw combo into 5cc wallbounce that sets up pumpkin and frog oki. Uses 1 wind. More 50% heat combos 25) 2:46-2:57 5b 5cdc 214a dash 6c (frog hits) j.236c land 6c j.c land 632146c sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 5cc (whiff 1st hit) 3c 214a - ~3900 dmg An advanced corner only frog combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c that uses only 2 winds and regens 1 during the combo. 26) 2:57-3:08 5b 3c (delay) 9d 5b jc j.b j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c dash 6a 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 4587 dmg 3c air combo extender into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. A combination of combos 17 and 22. Uses 3 winds. 27) 3:08-3:17 6a 5b jc j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c dash 6a 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - ~4000 dmg 6a air combo extender into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. A combination of combos 16 and 22. Uses 2 winds. 28) 3:18-3:30 b+c 7d dash 5b jc j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c dash 6a 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 4377 dmg Throw air combo extender into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. A combination of combos 15 and 22. Uses 3 winds. 29) 3:31-3:39 6a 5b jc j.b j.[c] j.c dj j.c 632146c (dash under opponent) 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - ~2500 dmg Air combo into air BBL. Mainly demonstrates that j.c > hold c > j.c and air BBL will combo after j.c. 30) 3:40-3:48 2c CH 1d 6a 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - ~4100 dmg Chair counterhit combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Similar to combo 22. Uses 2 winds. 31) 3:49-4:00* 5b 5cdc 214a 3c (1 hit) 236a sj 8d 2d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 6a32147d6c 236a (x2) 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c - 4869 dmg A damaging frog BnB into BBL for 3c characters. Requires 4 winds. 32) 4:01-4:11 air b+c 2d 5b jc j.b j.c 2d jc (lvl2) j.2c dash 6a 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 4200 dmg Airthrow combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Similar to combo 22. Uses 3 winds. 33) 4:11-4:22 b+c 6d IAD j.b j.c 632146c (dash under opponent) sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 236a dash 3c 214c 6c j.c dj j.c j.236a - 3820 dmg Alternative throw combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. Similar to combo 22. Uses 2 winds. 34) 4:23-4:34 b+c 5b 2d 5cc 6c j.c land 632146c sj 8d (lvl3) j.2c 5cc (whiff 1st hit) 3c 214a - 3450 dmg Corner throw combo into BBL and lvl3 j.2c. A combination of combos 14 and 25. Uses 2 winds. Section2: I have the 11-31 Arcadia issue, so I'll translate the Rachel combos from it: 1. 5b 5cdc 236b dash 6a BBL 236a(whiff) dash 3c (1 hit) 214c 5b JC j.b j.c JC j.b j.c j.236a 4008 dmg!? They have to be close for this one. I doubt it works on the whole cast -- you need to be able to dash far enough to 6a them and hit with both melee and pole BBL. 2. [corner?] 2b 5b 5cdc 214a dash? 2b 236a (frog hits) dash 5cc 3c (3 hits) 214c 3c (set out george) 2311 damage

I updated the first post with the new video. Watching it now - looks interesting so far.

Also people (read: Xie + whomever he brings) come from Irvine so perhaps you could arrange a carpool with him?

Ragna & going for certain tactics for fun. It also means I'm going to try to actually get in some practice (gasp!) between now and then.

Looking forward to next week's tournament as depending how quickly FFA gets BB:CS it may be the last original BB bi-weekly! Expect me to give my 100% every (BlazBlue) match!

Despite all the mistakes and broken promises while running this tournament, I had fun once things got started. If all of the prize money is paid promptly and people get their refunds on canceled tournaments, all is fine IMO. I probably wouldn't go to another major by these guys unless it's set up by different people and prize money isn't sketchy though. Also, $10 spectator fee was dumb -- $3 max IF they even have one, IMO. Damn hangers sure get cold at night...

For those who didn't get to see it, the stream is archived here: http://ufragtv.com/recorded/video/24341 (starting at ~2/3-3/4 of the way through), and http://ufragtv.com/recorded/video/24346

Who is showing up tonight (friday) for this? I'm trying to weigh going tonight in addition to tomorrow for casuals, but that would either cost a TON of gas for two drives, or require somewhere to stay tonight that is significantly closer to Hawthorne than Ventura.

I'm going too... as a spectator, lol. Hope to get lots of casuals in~

Spirit Juice is NorCal

Whoa, does that mean Tom is coming too? If so, he should get in on the MBAA action! (for those who don't know who I mean, Tom aka Arlieth of Melty Bread/West Toast) disclaimer: that is just wishful thinking based on Kemi coming, no idea if he actually is coming.

Sounds like I need to step up my ragna. Now if I could only figure out somewhere to do so...

That sucks throughly, Gnat =(. I don't think anyone would ever want to be put through that. Tournament was fun, it ran much smoother with less people due to CUT. GGs to those I played. @Blue Garbage: You've gotten much better, good job! Keep at those redic 6k combos~ @Mel: You've improved, GJ placing so well in Guilty! Regarding changing the start time to 4pm, no thanks, keep it at 5 please.

Yes it registers a high hit but it's not mixup at that point. If they didn't switch their guard to high after the j.a they just fail miserably. Meh, I'll update the first post with new loke test stuff on Sat/Sun.

If that happens we can just run BB:CS from the arcade cab and BB:CT from ps3 only~ Barring horrible things happening with BB:CS, this should probably be the last major to have BB:CT though.

We all know that I mained Hakumen... for the duration of that ultra-hot 3-win streak at FFA that one time.

What? Next week is CUT.

So broke, don't think I can make it unless someone is paying for ps3 time, and then it's still maybe.

You don't anti-air it when she does it from a jump-canceled 5b, simple as that. Do it when she is already airborne or when she does it from something with less blockstun like 5a.

For Guilty Gear I played Sol and Testament, not Jam and Testament.

A certain anonymous goth loli vampire doesn't want to let that happen! Also, I played Ragna in the tournament too.

Donate your consoles to me so I can finally play through Rachel's story mode ... and practice IAD combos.

GGs to those I played in the tournament. Especially render, our match was intense! Big time props to Severin for winning his first tournament and carrying our team! Also, thanks to Tushar for streaming the whole thing. Thanks to those who entered MBAA, and those who didn't, you should give the game a try, it's fun! Whoa, huge turnout for Guilty Gear! I didn't make my character quota this time =(. @almightygnat: don't worry about the guilty gear thing, most people, myself included, didn't even notice your screw up. We really appreciate the effort you put in to run the tourney -- you too Id_asz!. edit: morning classes suck after late nights. so...tired.