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Noel too unless it was changed in CS.

No, you can't put out a pumpkin and combo it after 6b CH, the hitstun is WAAAY too short for the nerfed pumpkin to be summoned and reach them in time. From my experience all you can do is 5a if you are very close or 5d (to push yourself to them) -> 5a/5b if you are further.

Don't forget to get me that thing from that place at that time. Also, HAVE FUN Also, I'll try to make it to this, provided I can figure out a ride.

Yeah you could probably do something along the lines of air combo -> j.236a 4d RC j.214c j.236a, but the damage would be rather pitiful.

I was under the impression they removed the guard point entirely and just gave it head attribute invulnerability instead... Which means it doesn't eat projectiles anymore.

I could, but I might kill myself in the process. I'd best not do it. If someone else wants to compile it I'm willing to copy-pasta it into my post.

You can't chain them. In this case you jump cancel j.c then use j.2c, so that doesn't affect it. However, I don't think going for lvl.1 j.2c is ever a good idea for Rachel in a combo.

Oh that's right, you totally told us about that after CUT2, didn't you.

You moving to SoCal? Whereabouts?

I believe you can do 5d 5a from 6b on counterhit only.

This is rather off topic for this thread but oh well, nobody cares about Rachel anymore anyway! Not MMOs - I don't need a time sink right now. Probably FPS/RTS (SCII eventually!)/Heroes of Newerth now.

I still got thrown out of it multiple times and unlike in CT, buffering in a throw break doesn't work My thoughts exactly.

Rushdown char is my main reason. Also her followups look like melty whiff cancels As far as what game I'd play instead? Probably other genres :P

I think I'm just gonna try to make Tsubaki work for me or give up on BBCS entirely. Despite how much they buffed my color #4 in CS, I just can't do Rachel anymore. R.I.P. for me too =(

As far as i know midscreen froggables didn't change. Tsubaki is froggable, i dunno about hazama.

Tronzilla was playing at AI. Soon as FFA gets BBCS I'm sure Id_asz will post here and we will all show up.

It bothered me quite a bit, mostly due to needing wind to guard crush and the new super needing 4 winds to be good. I found myself out of wind a lot more often than I did in CT.

As she is all I could do is try to win neutral situations with heavily nerfed normals. If i play it that way most matchups are gonna be <3.5 for Rachel.

Yup, losing repeatedly.

No moves are a good idea for Rachel anymore, ever. First off let me say that 3c9d 5a 5b air combo works. In the few tries i had i couldn't get 3c9d 6c to work and it didn't look like it was going to -- it appeared like they were able to tech sooner than BBCT, which makes sense based on the changes to 3c. A couple other notes -- 5b 6dc j.c land 5b DOES work. Dunno about practical applications or comboability after, only was able to test it once. The special cancel for j.2c is extremely late, so at the point where I'd try to cancel to 236a I would just get counterhit by a move. It's SO unsafe now :<. That out of the way, I just got home from Arcade Infinity and I've lost all of my hype for BBCS. Rachel is SO terrible that I seriously consider her unplayable. As far as I can tell there aren't really any characters that fit my playstyle in the game, so meh. I won 1.5 matches total the entire night, once against Noel and half of a match vs Tager (1st 2 rounds were testing stuff out, only last round was serious). Fighting against just around anyone in the cast save for perhaps Noel (which still doesn't feel like a favorable match but rather a gimp match where I'm behind but it's doable) felt like a ridiculously uphill battle with no good options ever. I have no idea what the fuck arcsys are thinking with Rachel. It just doesn't feel like there is even a way to play her that allows a chance of victory in a competitive setting. Rachel no longer has zoning, mixup and pressure, oki, abare, damage, reasonably usable normals, or usable special moves. She has no way to get in on an opponent and even if she somehow does at BEST she does 2 guard primers and wastes a bunch of wind which won't regenerate for a VERY LONG TIME. At worst she gets counter poked and eats a 4.5k dmg combo. Note that even if Rachel somehow does guard crush an opponent (lol) then she's probably out of wind and the additional proration from guard crush drops Rachel's already pitiful damage to negligible levels. The ONLY way for Rachel to win right now it seems is for her opponent to mess up, repeatedly and in a very punishable way until Rachel's pathetic damage eventually kills them.

Cool, I'll test those things today.

Well it appears that I will get to try out BB:CS Rachel tomorrow. I'll report my ZETSUBOU SHITA here.

3c9d 6c is entirely gone. 3c9d 5a is difficult enough as is.

I thought everyone realized you could use poles when it was said the j.2c was special cancelable Anyway, provided you either have 50% or a pole on your opponent, you CAN go for the overhead. The problem is getting them to block low as 3c really isn't scary anymore. The only thing I'm not sure about is the frames of sword iris on block in BBCS. You probably cannot continue pressure but it will at least be safe.

Yes.