A.X.I.S.

Mr. heart...my life...its meaningless...I wanna die.

unsanc and I didn't play...OH WTF!?

your right about those. I'm gonna edit the first post if you don't mind.

Well I'll leave this thread with this statement. For those that chose to muck around in this thread you can at least make yourselves like intelligent humans and walk away (let things lie.) or post intelligent discussion. (what the thread was intended for in the first place.) if you chose the first good things may happen in the future, silence is golden etc etc, but if you stick around and post like its BBG or 4chan then you only show to those in power. (super mods and admin.) That DL can should and never have nice things. I ask not that you stop posting because you guys are being lulzy and rolling in your own text filth but so this thread which lasted a good while and did have useful info at one time die and make dustloop looks like its full of human beings that can handle a normal discussion. that is all. bye thread and may you like in piece.

Klaige and Remiri for gods sakes this thread is made to discuss match ups and why they are what they are. NOT MATH! stop going on statisticmagiggers and stay on subject. I swear dustloop has A.D.D -_-

oh I mean. collider>walk Bsledge>22D

I feel infinite sadness. this perfectly fine american thread was ruined by a bunch of theory fighting netplayers. worse still, I still never got any info on tao vs tager.

B sledge gadget works on everyone because it OTG's them BUT it won't work on kune because he has a odd aerial hit box, on smaller characters you can actually walk up a step then B sledge, it helps for people who are too far or too small like say carl and tsubaki. I had B gadget whiff on them. For Ara you have to do Egadget if your trying to land one on him.

LOL pisces. 4B can be 360'd. 236D can be sledged at mid ranged. gravity loses to jump. that's all I have to say.

ok ok guys you got me. your still having big trouble with the ara match up so I'll talk about it. Tager vs ara: 4-6/3.5-6.5 things you should do: walk forward, sledge or VTC j.D's, don't get cursed, be patient, AA appropriately, stay out of the air if you can help it. things you don't do: sledge stupidly, 2D, move backwords, and waste spark. things you should watch out for or avoid: 2C: this move...disrespectful and nasty it's a fast move coming out at 14F and will beat a lot of your pokes he can combo from it for 100% curse. (doesn't have to FC on tager.) this move is really active trust me even if you backdash it your more than likely gonna get hit by its ending active frames, either block it or yomi 4D it, you can 5C it at the start of it but its not really rewarding to do so. 5C: Ara's best AA and the one you will see the most in this match, this move is a problem...a big problem. 5-25F invul meaning no matter what poke your using its going to beat it. (he can afford to be late because tagers jump's are slow.) he can go into 100% curse with FC and if you block it he can jump cancel or use 5D->run away to curse and escape making this the sole reason why you shouldn't high jump in this match.... air grab: 100% curse if your at mid height...so don't get air grabbed. counter assault:I know what your thinking? how can his counter assault be threatening? its a grab and if he has 100 heat it will lead into curse. trust me this is gonna be the one you will get salty about. j.B: ara's normal pressure tool...its not so much a threat as it is annoying, he can link this into his normal BnB so don't get hit by it, you can situationally AA it or backdash it or just IB it. 6D: bell bug, another anti jump tool on tager, nets the biggest curse, and will make you want to sledge it...let me put it this way, this move will get you killed, this move got me killed...for god sakes don't sledge it right when he summon's. your gonna whiff and get cursed. Back dash: haha this is a big problem, why? because it has little recovery and will get him out of your pressure almost for free but if you magnetize arakune its not too bad, you see he has very little recovery on it making it hard to spark him but if you have him magnetized and he wants to backdash you can smack him with 5D or use j.D to pull him back in. there I just told you what to look for in this match. might edit first post with this meh. couple things: MTW beats teleports and backdash magnetized. 720 kills backdash magnetized. 5D on magnetized kune rapes his ground zoning to an extent. Ara has no wake up option's next to super. these should be noted also you can do double collider combo's like 2C xx collider->J.C whiff->J.2C->2B xx collider. my god Mike old notation boggles me. -_-

sophisticat don't start that discussion, dustloop would just boil down to failloop. I hate failloop. @ huey: bang forums is very gdlk, almost jersey tier.

OMFG!! you guys are still arguing over this!? my god when will dustloop ever grow up? I am facekeyboarding because these people arguing over something so...so fucking AH! WHY DUSTLOOP WHY!? WHY CAN'T WE SQUASH THE BEEF!!? WHY CAN'T WE JUST DROP IT AND FORGET THIS HAPPENED!? DAMMIT JIYUNA!

because all the people that matter got a Xbox. also we have 100$ sticks so we are pro.

the more the merrier. besides everyone who comes gets to feed the get "Axis a haircut fund."

Against litchi: litchi was terrible, quit using 2C after gadget it wouldn't catch 7J.B anyways. in fact if you get a air CH then stick to 5C or collider because 2C won't hit. if your comboing in the corner go for knock down or a tech trap. surprisingly outside of a lack of combo's you didn't do to bad, you just need a smarter player. Against arakune: why are you not blocking j.B? why are you running away when ara has a bell and a cloud out? why are you not standing your ground? gdlk IBing in curse but your not suppose to churn butter (mash 360/720) in it unless he's commited to mix up. why did you corner yourself in curse? why are you not 2Cing obvious jump in's or use collider to stuff it? why are you running from clouds when he has a low amount of curse meter? IS THIS SERIOUS!? AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! Seriously though against ara you have to magnetize him and catch him when he's trying to set up or pressure you...if its not any of these cases then he will run away. against ara your main AA's will be 2C and collider, why 2C and collider? 2C FC's and leads to 4K damage and can trade with j.B in your favor and colllider grabs him where you are afraid to 2C. In that match you could have AA collidered him a few times. I'm starting to think I have to write a detailed guide for kune since skye trolls me with him all the time. oh skye about 2D. I have never hit you with it out of a backdash, I don't even think it works, it either falls short or you poke me before it touches you, sledge works surprisingly. surprise edit: I remember hitting ara's 6D (bell bug) with 2D though so its decent, but if you fall short you not only eat added curse from bell bug but you get hit by ara's ground BnB which adds about 30 or so curse meter, add that with a cloud and your probably cursed...and if you are not cursed then you will be real soon.

Jiyuna posted. then people felt trolled and it became a downward spiral. you know dustloop being dustloop.