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oh! I can def do that, sorry I just woke up I had this awesome ass nap. let me get write on it. @ salpal: this is ok, I need all the input I can get. also spoiler is

so spoil over some notes? it doesn't look so wall of texty to me but I suppose I can space it out if you like.

tager is so decent now...he's actually solid. just give him back his damage and tager will be worshiped. tsubaki is shit. noel is lesser shit. and rachel is the queen of shit.

and its not hard to IB...by that logic hells fang is great against tager in footsies. which is not true, in the game of footsies you don't throw anything out mindlessly. @ LK: tsubaki is like CT tager except she sucks...yeah I just said that.

yes it will, thanks for the input man, I couldn't have done it without you. also if its any problems with the notations then let me know, I will correct them ASAP.

you mean the move that looks like charging stars? no that gets her killed.

I updated the first combo post...yeah I tacked on more work. I am the devil lol.

well it depends because I tend to use 5A>2B>2C or 5A>2B>3C a lot for combo's, and yes I use 2B and the reason why because it goes into another low 5B, it goes into 2C which takes 1 primer and linkes into 4D that is a great frame trap, or I tick 360. 2B is a fucking godsend, I didn't even mention its god on block. it really depends on what you go for, but everyone does 5A>5B>3C and have their own follow-up.

I like using 5AxN>5B>4D 5A>2B>3C>2B>2C>623C>j.C whiff>j.2C>22D. check the first page in the thread man, its a lot of combo's and most of them have video links to them. also should I put 5A>5B>4D in that list since its pretty decent abeit gimmicky.

IMO do not gadget finger without 50 heat, that shit is not viable since you can't throw out 5A to safely bait ID. the match up is relatively the same except ragna want's to come in more cautious since AA collider works well on him if he doesn't space himself proper. (amazing I know!) and for fucks sake don't get combo'd! he is gonna gain 50 heat and do dumb shit. few notes: IB 5C and 360 depending on the spacing. IB hells fang and watch for the follow up, you can't punish if he goes straight into it. IB GH and punish proper. IB j.B/J.C/J.D when he lands he will fall into a 360/720 shit is not as hard as you think. the match up is the same pretty much, the 50 heat to mix up shouldn't be too hard since you can still IB punish his shit while he's doing it.

while we are on the subject, lets talk tager vs tsubaki. I don't see a reason to respect her wake up. (projectile DP) I don't a reason her mix up is viable. (IB 360/720) and lastly her overhead has a fucking sound cue.(seriously what kind of retarded shit is that) is there anything she can do tager outside of hit and run?

the match up is nearly even, if your even throwing out ice blades on haku-men at a place where he can swing his sword then your doing something wrong, jin's pressure is still strong despite the nerf's, haku-men still has to wait it out for jin when he starts his pressure. I'm sure the advantage haku has over jin is slight and its just damage.

she is shit...at least rachel has holiday friends.

this match up is completely doable colider invul helps so much here and fatal 2C makes ara respect you, just keep a eye on your curse gauge and IB a lot and I mean a lot...and when you do get cursed prepare for some nasty shit.

if its 3C>22D then you just do 3C and tap the gadget...should come right out. if its say Bgadget then you have to hold it until they are about to hit the ground...hold it a bit longer than you think. if its Egadget then its gonna fill awkward but you can pretty much do it after you land it, again just tap the 22D should come right out. edit: for 3C wait at the end of its recovery.

that shit is delicious +1 respect for michi.

that only works if they clash...but DP's have so many active frames or they hit at the end of the invul so they can do it again an example of this is infernal divider, if he does it to MTW it will clash and he can do it until MTW ends or he hits you, I am sure your gonna get hit for trying that...mu's DP is no different she is gonna clash with MTW and do it again until your hit.

5D is never safe...even for a spacing tool. gotta be real careful with it. 6A and j.C are safer against tager for all practical reasons...also some people use j.d to knock tager out of the air...hell some people use j.A. EDIT: 5D is only good for killing elbow.