Synthesis

Wait, Mehraj. You're studying anatomy? What anatomy could you possibly learn? In A&P I and II they teach you like, everything. Bitch, I just had to memorize every vein and artery in the body for a quiz. A QUIZ! (I'm not exaggerating)

Mu had high lows, granted she had to be respected first but what I'm looking for is safe pressure, really. Something I can do that will get my opponent to sit still. What options do we have for people doing things on wakeup? How do we stop jump outs during pressure? I've noticed a lot that people can jump after 5C(2) and do a jumping attack in response to our jump to beat the j.D. What do we do for pressure?

5C(1) 2C as strong mixup.... Hmmm. Can't they just hold 7 and get out for free? I really don't like dealing with Naoto jumping in at me, so I don't like her jumping. I think I'm going to start doing 5C(1) OMC (1) for mixup in the corner. If they jump, I can 2B, if they sit still, I can throw, if they mash, I can 2C. Needs more testing.

B.Zio has a very large start up before it actually fires. If you use B.Zio full screen as a meaty for oki, your opponent will start blocking it instead of trying to super jump out to get in (conditioning!). With this, instead of B.Zio, you could use D.Agi, which also has a long start up and most opponents aren't looking at Liz's card positioning to determine which move she's performing. If you do D.Agi but your opponent is respecting a non-existent B.Zio, you get free oki and D.Agi pulls them in and you get to mix them up for free. What are our mix up options, though? I can only RPS with Thanatos so much before people just get out for free by not being asleep, and I don't want to waste Persona cards. What mix up involving normals (without meter) can I perform? I wish she could airdash after double jumping. 2B IAD air turn j.B would be hot. Perhaps.... 2B dj.AC (is j.C falling on block safe?) I need to experiment more, but most of her pressure options are easily mashed out of unless I use Thanatos. Regardless, picking up Mitsuru to deal with Teddie. Screw that noise. EDIT: are we including the AoA oki setup? Is it worth learning? Has anyone performed testing? Seems Mitsuru can do the same setup.

Marvin's no pushover. I don't think you'd be able to handle him with Kanji.

To be fair, you should always bait until you're positive you've gained respect. And even then. does j.B eat her F-Action shot? Haven't played Naotos that F-Action a lot.

So, been talking to Bellreisa about some of his combos and setups etc.... Found out 5C j.D catches people holding 7 against 5C. Useful against chicken blockers.

Hahaha. Off Airthrow CH: Sweep D.Garu 2A 5B 5C 2C 214B 214B j.C (does like 4.5-4.7k)

5A 2B off Ghastly Wail is the strongest corner reset I've ever seen. Do it.

This. Although I'm testing other stuff right now that might be better....

I talked about this in the gimmicks thread. =D

I do this on occasion in the corner. For instance xxx 214B 2D dash up 5A throw or what have you. This is matchup specific, though. And I don't have a followup that will make it 100% safe against DPs or anything, so I don't know how viable it would be against people who know the matchup.

Just make sure you're max distance away if you want to zio. If you aren't, just roll through it. If it whiffs, she's pretty negative.

Eh. Why learn it? It's suboptimal. If you're in range where j.B will be more useful than dash 5B, you can just back dash and 5B before they land. But to each their own.

I'm with Ray on this one.

Actually, we've been over this. xD If you land a 5B counterhit in the corner, crouching or no, you can just hitconfirm into D.Garu for HUGE damage. Do that.

from 5B CH do 5C (2) 214A j.BC land 2A 5B 5C(2) 2C SB.Zio. From there you get standard Paralysis oki or you can attempt an air unblockable reset. I suggest 5A (watch for tech) 2B air unblockable if they aren't falling for the j.D resets. If they don't tech the 2B, you can hit 5A until they tech. Miniscule damage, but you're gaining meter and running down the clock. =D

My number is the same! It's 520-370-7057. Whoo!

I'll play on PSN when I have the time. Just text me or something.

Yeah, that's the issue. Big thing is they see this huge threat on the ground and you're right next to them with slightly slower than average normals. They're probably going to do everything in their power to get out. If you think they'll be patient little buggers (I love conditioning) then go ahead and throw. I'll have to try this out. xD If I'm not the one in the corner, though, I think IABD j.B would be the optimal oki choice to bait certain reversals (Kanji/Mitsuru/Yosuke etc...) and from there go into a 50/50 or better (2A/5D/5CD/AOA) Anyone else notice how on certain moves you can mash F-Action to beat them from 5A? I'll list what I've been able to do it against on reaction. Labrys' F-Action, Rhino super (I don't know what it is), Kanji F-Action, Mitsuru Bufula (I think C-Version) I've had it where 5A whiffs because of the super startup, but I was able to F-Action through it for the invincibility. Had a Labrys player get PISSED that she couldn't OMC her super because it whiffed.

Sounds like fun. =D I'm all for this, actually.

Yeah, can anyone find that SMP loop? Could be useful. Found a fun combo off 5AAA midscreen. Tested on Kanji: 5AAA D.Garu 5B 5C(2) 2C 214B 214B j.C Meterless and does 3162 damage. Gives you Thanatos oki fullscreen. EDIT: I'm provided no new information. Ignore this.

I was there. I lost to 2 Kanji players. I have never played the matchup before. D=

Just finished playing a tournament. 3/5 matches I went against were Kanji. I lost to 2 Kanjis. D= I need to hug the wall more.

You can destroy her F-Action by reacting with yours on certain moves. =D