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It "staggers" if you hit them while they are grounded in a combo. I don't know if it puts them in an actual stagger state, I think it just has a lot of hitstun. Meaning you get an almost forced mixup off it after ending a combo with it. If you hit them with it while they are in the air near the corner in a combo, it seems to wall bounce slightly. What it does raw on hit or CH I don't know and haven't really noticed yet.

Thanks, I'll change them out in the 1st post when I get a chance. Just fyi, 2B and 2A are switched.

Not you, now that I see what you said in your post before that lol.

6B would be the only new one.....

laggy ass netplayer.

As some people have noticed, Azrael loses his "tattoos" after he does his Astral. That to me says the "tattoos" are probably more like seals and are involved with the limiter stuff. So when he Astrals someone it is like he took off his limiters. Also in one of his win poses when he takes off his jacket when he clenches his fist his "tattoos" glow.

Yes. 1) The potential unblockable. 2) If you have both weakpoints and get hit, you're going to lose a HUGE chunk of your life and probably get fullscreen corner carried and have another weakpoint applied anyway. We're talking like 4k+ meterless.

This one?: http://www.twitch.tv/zeth07/b/342553961 Then he lost to Galileo: http://www.twitch.tv/zeth07/b/342556690 I stopped watching after that though so I didn't see him play anyone else. I'm gonna assume someone will upload that tournament which is why I haven't uploaded those few matches myself.

Ragna has an Ichigo palette as well, and Azrael is basically Kenpachi so yea.

I could be. I actually haven't played for a few days myself so it'd be good to play some.

Seems like we're still in that netplay BlazBlue timeloop I see, forever getting Bad Endings. "One of the many possibilities... of the Continuum Shift." That's going to be my response from now on whenever this "topic" keeps coming up.

Here's some Bang matches I uploaded from the Leebros Arcade stream, these were casuals before a tournament started. I started the video late, and unfortunately the end gets cut off but there's still some good stuff in there. There was a double relaunch combo for example. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01sy2F5sxmc Some more info that seems relevant: --- 5B>2B>6CムサJC>6CjcJD>C釘>エリアル で3300ぐらい 5C>6D>大噴火なら4270 JC>J2Cの2回拾い直しコンは、5A>5B>6C始動で2300ぐらいだったかな。 ただ、全然安定しない… あと最低空B釘が地面スレスレで飛んでいくから強いね。 しかも上りと下りで打てるから舐めプにも対応してるという。 --- 5B>2B>6C>JC>J2C>[5A>5B>JC>JC>J2C>]*2>5A>5B>JA>JB>JC>JC>J4C 3800くらい 完全にやりたいだけの空ダ拾い直しコンボ --- フェイタル中の２B>６Bループ試してきた。 ３Cでしか試してないけど、 ３Cfc>(２B>６B)*4>２B>５B>JA>JB>JC>JC>J2C>A釘で４６００位だった エリアル行かずに２B>大噴火で５１００位だったかな～ 見た目はアレだけど、簡単だし実用的な気がする --- 画面中央 投げ＞慣性ムササビ＞JC＞着地5B＞JC＞jc低ダJC＞J2C＞5A＞5B＞JA＞JB＞JC＞JC＞J2C ダメ約3200 低ダ拾い直しをせずにそのままエリアル行っても3000位減るけど運ぶ距離が大分違う 画面やや端寄り 投げ＞慣性ムササビ＞JD＞C釘＞5D(壁バウンド)＞6D＞C釘＞2D＞J2C＞JC ダメ約2500 位置の制約が結構あるとはいえノーゲージでマーク4枚回収出来る 壁が近すぎると6Dが間に合わないけど2Dなら大体間に合うので3枚は安定すると思う ただ対応キャラは結構限定されそうな気がする 画面端 投げ＞慣性ムササビ＞JC＞ディレイ空双＞5B＞双＞微ダ2B＞5B＞JA＞JB＞JC＞JC＞J2C ダメ約3700 慣性ムササビ後のJCは最速気味、空双にはディレイかけないと5Bで拾えない。 慣性ムササビ＞JAスカし＞着地5Bor6Cとかも出来たしまだ伸ばせる気がする 画面端の投げ指導でマーク4枚回収とか出来たら熱いね --- こんな珍ルートよく発見できたな！次やってみるわ 今日スパーリングで試して全キャラ?に入るの確認できたの（ほぼ過去レスの既出だけど 端投げ>JB>長めﾃﾞｨﾚｲＪＣ>最速目押し5C>6D>地双>2B>6C>JC>J2C　3321 端投げ>JB>ＪＣ>空双壁ビタ>（微ダ)5A拾い>5B>エリアル　3100　妥協コン 投げ>JB>長めﾃﾞｨﾚｲＪＣ>最速目押し5C>6D>大噴火　3921 中央5A>5B>2B>6C>JD>着地最速9236C>6B>2A>5B>エリアル　3000 画面端5B>2B>6C>ムサJC>空双>5B>地双>2B>5B>エリアル　4121 画面端5B>2B>6C>ムサJC>空双>5B>地双>微ダ5C>6D>大噴火　4971　50%消費 ・上に出てたけど無理じゃねって思ったの 画面端5A、2A始動でムサJC>空双>2B地双で拾う奴。 ディレイ変えてかなり試したが全然拾えない。キャラ限かも？ ・中央コンのjcJDC釘か最速9236Cがどっちがいいの？ 俺は後者のゆくゆくは最速9236Cの方が安定する気がする。 jcJDだとjcJDも結構むずいのに更に微ダ5Cがシビア。かなり受身取られる 着地後最速9236Cなら微ダ5Cは普通に間に合う JDC釘の仕様元に戻してくれや！（泣 --- As of Post 446

Overdrive also seems to make it so the weakpoints do not disappear as long as it is active.

Since it was brought up in the wrong thread I'll talk about here, I doubt Amane is Tenjo's son because, Amane has a conversation with Bang and Bang does NOT recognize Amane at all. Considering how important Tenjo's son apparently is to Bang, you would think he knows what the hell he would look like. And considering Amane's nature and him having a troupe for whatever reason, it wouldn't really make that much sense for him to be so hard for Bang to find, ESPECIALLY if they are in Ikaruga of all places. I doubt Amane just ran off and suddenly decided to look the way he does, for Bang to somehow not know it is him. Unless they really go out of their way to stretch that "mystery" and do some shit like Amane just looks like that for a disguise but since that's part of his "power" I doubt that is the case. So yea I don't think Amane is Tenjo's son. I wouldn't be surprised however if Amane somehow knew where he was or had information about him if Tenjo's son is younger and thus Amane would show interest in him to know that kinda stuff.

Wrong thread?

Just want to confirm, Azrael can do 5A>5B>Astral anywhere.

They keep doing something to the Bang jbbs with the posts, it's making it really hard to keep track of where I left off but here's some more stuff that seems relevant: 端で 5B>2B>6C>ムサJC>空双>5B>地双>2B>6C>jcJD>C釘>5C>6D>大噴火 で5000ちょい それはいいんだが この5000「ちょい」ってのが本当に「ちょい」としか表現できなくて トレモで3回やって5043、5016、5064と3回ともダメージが微妙に違ったんだがどうなってるんだこれは ちなみに全部マーク無しからの始動で敵体力はバラバラ もしかして根性値でも導入された？ ----- ～C釘＞2Dのところを ～C釘＞6D＞C釘＞2Dで四枚いけるんじゃね？ 端 5B＞2B＞2C＞双＞微ダ2B＞5D＞裏まわり6C＞JD＞C釘＞6D＞C釘＞2Dがいけたから 4 seals in the corner off 5B. ----- 密着気味なら 5A＞5B＞5C＞5D入れ込み 5A５Ｃ 5Adl投げコマ投げ 5A5A～ 5A6A6B 5A2A2A 5A6B 5A　2B6Brc 5A　2B5Bjc やや先端 5A5Bjc後ろジャンプ逃げ　Ｄ釘　低ダJBJC？ 5A5Bjcめくり まだ安定しないけどこういうのもできたら面白いかもしれん 5Ajcムササビ 5A5Bjcムササビ 今作は2B入れ込み要らん？気がする ---- 画面端寄りから端でいいコンボないかな 今↓しかできてないわ 5A5B2B6C空双ダッシュ5A5B拾いエリアル 5A>5B>6C>空ダJC>J2C>5A>2B>J4C>J2C>5A>5B>エリアル（キャラ限 ↑安定させてる人ダメージ教えてほしいっすわ ---- 2A>5B>2B>6C>ムササビJC>空双>2B>地双>2B…… を確認しました ようするに 小パン始動でも上手く高度調整すれば2Bが間に合って地双が入る って話です 多分キャラ限だろうけど相手忘れちゃった ----- 5A>5B>2B>6C>JD>C釘>6B>2A>5B>エリアル　中央3000越 5B>2B>6C>ムサJC>空双>5B>地双>微ダ2B>5B>JC>空ダJC>ﾃﾞｨﾚｲJ2C>5A>5B>JA>JB>JC>JC>J2C ツイッターめぐってたら見つけた　画面端4438 ----- As of post 401, but like I said they seem to be messing with his jbbs so who knows if the posts will change.

From Game-Carnival stream a few minutes ago: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/game-carnival 11/23/12 - Red/Black Azrael vs. Bullet and Arcade Mode (Part 1 of 2) 11/23/12 - Red/Black Azrael vs. Arcade Mode (Part 2 of 2) = This part was cutoff from Part 1's original upload. The Azrael is pretty damn good for this early in the game / knowing the character.

Top 20 Rankings as of now: 1) Valkenhayn = 7th Dan 2) Jin = 6th Dan 3) Hakumen = 6th Dan 4) Hazama = 6th Dan 5) Carl = 6th Dan 6) Tager = 6th Dan 7) Jin = 6th Dan 8) Valkenhayn = 6th Dan 9) Relius = 6th Dan 10) Valkenhayn = 5th Dan 11) Jin 12) Hakumen 13) Taokaka 14) Ragna 15) Valkenhayn 16) Ragna 17) Taokaka 18) Valkenhayn 19) Makoto 20) Valkenhayn For reference, rankings go: 入門 (Beginner) -> 9級 (Kyu) through 1級 (Kyu) -> 初段 (1st Dan) through probably 9段 or 10段 -> ? I would assume it works pretty much like every other Danisen rankings. http://sp.bbcp.ac/ranking_view.php?mode=exe&type=psr_rank

FRKZ is Bang's OD. So it's duration is dependent upon your health. Info from jbbs: http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1352374469/l50 ---- 火山バング殿のために、コンボ開発してきました。 尚、現実的思考によりキャンセルしてのコンボ。 ※見にくいけど、「d」はダッシュキャンセルの「d」です。 中央 5C<OD<2C<6C<JD<5C<6D<大噴火。 端 5C<OD<2C<6C<JD<5C<4d5D<6d5C<6D<大噴火 5C<OD<2C<6C<2d<8dJC<6dJC<2d5C<6d2B<4d5D<6d5C<6D<大噴火 キャンセルODは生出しより時間短くなるから、OD大噴火するならこれが限度でした。 中央及び端の1が、体力半分。端2が体力ギリでのコンボ。 まぁ、OD大噴火に拘らないなら、端コン2の5D後、6d2D<9dJD<2d5C<6D<大噴火が入る。 遅れたから大噴火ノーマルになったかもだけど、もしかしたらキッチリ繋がるかも。 ---- 5A>5B>6C>空ダJC>J2C>5A>2B>J4C>J2C>5A>5B>エリアル（キャラ限かも） B>2Bor6A>6C>JD>地双>2Bjc空双>A>B>エリアルで３９００ぐらい（端） 中央投げ 投げ>蹴りHIT A釘透かし>6C>JD>jcC釘>2D>エリアルで２８００ぐらい 投げ>空ダJC>6C>JD>5A>5B>エリアル 端投げ 端投げ>空ダJB>JC>5C>6D>地双>微ダ2B>6C>JC>J2C 端投げrc>5B>2B>6C>ムササビ>JC>空双>5B>地双>2B>5D>5B>エリアル 風林火山 J2C>5B>2B>2C>dc6C>JD>2B>大噴火（マーク無し） 5B>2B>6C>JD>2>5A>5B>6C>鳳凰 5C>OD>2C>6C>JD>5C>6D>大噴火（中央） 5C>OD>2C>6C>JD>5C>4d5D>6d5C>6D>大噴火（端） 5C>OD>2C>6C>2d>8dJC>6dJC>2d5C>6d2B>4d5D>6d5C>6D>大噴火(端) これまで出たコンボをまとめて見ました　稼動日以降に書かれた物です 間違っている所もあると思うのでじゃんじゃん直してください ---- 中央 5A>5B>2B>6C>JD>5A>5B>エリアル　2500くらい 5A>5B>2B>6C>jc最速JD>微ダ5C>6D>地双or大噴火　2682 5A>5B>2B>6C>ムササビJC>エリアル　安定させにくく微妙　2600ちょい？ 5A>5B>6C>空ダJC>J2C>5A>2B>J4C>J2C>5A>5B>エリアル（キャラ限かも）　試してないのでダメ不明 端 5A>5B>2B>6C>最速(orディレイ)ムササビJC>空双>5A>5B>エリアル　2782 5B>2B>6C>ムササビJC>空双>5B>地双>微ダ2B6CJCJ2Cで4000超 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　5B>2B>エリアル　4200？ 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　5C>6D>大噴火で4900 端屈 5A>5B>2B>6C>地双>微ダ2B>6C>JC>J2C 5B>2B>6C>地双>微ダ2B>低空双>5A>5B>エリアル 5C(fc)>2C>地双>微ダ2B>低空双>5A>5B>エリアル 補正きついときのエリアルは垂直JA～にしたほうが安定する気がする 端投げコンの5C6Dが入らないけどJBJCにディレイいるの？ ---- 対戦ばかりで一人用やれないから全然検証できてないけど キャラコンボレート80% 立ちA300初段100%乗算77% CT1000初段80%乗算100%(キャラコンボレートの影響を受けない) とかそんな感じかな 全体的に上段は初段100%が多くて中下段に初段補正が付いてることが多い傾向にあると予想 ギルティっぽい んで立ちA2AJAは乗算きついっぽい？ あと公式のインタビューで始動技によってコンボ繋げられる時間が変わるとか 立ちA始動と2A2A始動が同じようなコンボ繋げられるのと 立ちDよろけの時間を絡めると同じレシピで繋がったり繋がらなかったりするのはこのせいみたい ---- とりあえず何点か報告 ・コマ投げは3hitのときにｒｃすると補正ゆるい、コマ投げ>rc>バックジャンプ大噴火で3600程度なので今までどおりにバー対できるｗ ・端寄りの位置で5A>5B>2B>6C>JD>C釘>5D>ダッシュ5C>6D>地双で３枚回収確認 キャラによっては5Dの前に5C入れて少しだけ運び距離増えます ・風林火山コンボ 　スパーリングで自分体力50%時中央、 　OD>5B>2C>6C>JD>2B>地双>6C>空双(OD終了)>5B>阿修羅って流れができた 　始動は5Aより緩ければ何からでもいけると思います(5A>5B>2B>ODの流れだと最後の阿修羅がスカッたはず 　ダメージは5C>OD以下略で「火」点灯時約4600 　もしかしたら空双のあと5C入るかも、入れば体力5割以下ならどこでOD終わっても安定して大噴火締めできるんだが・・・ ----

Any help translating these Azrael posts from the jbbs would be greatly appreciated: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?15328-Azrael-Combo-Thread&p=1419054&viewfull=1#post1419054 The combos I can more or less interpret and work out through just Google Translate, but it is mostly the long sentences before or after combos that I obviously have no idea what they are trying to say. I just don't want to miss important information. These posts are starting at 554 if anyone would like to just go through the whole page to better understand them. http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1344171130/

Azrael also apparently has to use links for at least some of his combos. And while it might not be a limited "resource", he is still dependent upon the weakpoints to deal big damage and without weakpoints he doesn't seem to do all that much relatively speaking. I haven't seen much of Amane myself, but if I had to compare it would definitely seem like Bullet is easier than Azrael.

From what I remember seeing I don't think it has any startup invincibility, or at least it can't be used as a reversal. I'll watch the videos again and find out where I saw some examples and edit them in. Platinum gets hit by it here after she does what I guess is 2A on oki as he does wakeup SCP. http://youtu.be/4rd8WVMExis?t=1m1s That could be just from the fact that she was in recovery. Gonna find another example because I'm almost positive he got hit out of it in one of the videos. Here's an example where Platinum hits him out of it with Bat after he does it on wakeup: (1:25 into the video) http://www.twitch.tv/zeth07/b/341817527 My understanding of it is that it probably has some startup invincibility and works like Mu's DP and just blows people away. If however he holds it, it probably continues to absorb projectiles, but he can then be hit out of it by any other attacks as you mentioned with the active frames. I'm almost positive I saw a Jin hit him out of it during one of the location test videos after it had already been out for a while. Here you can see Hazama hits him out of it almost immediately after it is already used: http://youtu.be/0smDGdkh9xE?t=22s Here's another great example, it ends up trading with Hazama's move: http://youtu.be/0smDGdkh9xE?t=2m55s Also, I believe I read in the jbbs that he can store something like 14 projectiles, like in the scenario that you used Growler Field to counter Nu's distortion. But don't quote me on that. He can most definitely store more than one at a time though because I'm almost positive I saw that in one of the Platinum videos.

Seriously this. It is a very bad look when this continues to happen and yet you're trying to make tutorials for beginners.

You/He forgot a few, here they are from the source he got them from, even if we've already see them: Hakumen Tager Makoto Ragna Relius Hazama Jin Arakune Noel Valkenhayn Rachel